sea-breeze, 11 Jul 2010am just hoping they read and work on things that matters ... when me and u and others says we ... moreI understand you there. They do have do adapt and upgrade more to impress. Do not worry. The numbers may look small but the performance could be amazing. And as it is Symbian, I am sure you will be able to change the looks and feels of the icons and indicators. Nokia never bothers to change it themselves, and that may tick a lot of people off, it's good to know they don't restrict the ability for you to tweak it.
Hang in there =D! Maybe the N8 will be a hit and the phone you desire.
Nokia has always kinda been the ones that thinks about underdeveloped countries and environment issues, you have to give them cred for that. As for now, there is absolutely no reason to have 1Ghz processors on mobile phones. There are no apps or games yet developed to use more than 600Mhz at most. Not many people walk around with 1080P or 720P movies in the phones or has devices that can support them.
[deleted post]Do you even know what jailbreaking means :)?, first you cant jailbreak iPhone 4 yet, so how the hell your sister having jailbroken iphone4? :) Secondly its nothing to do with Apple with jailbroken multitasking, there's different multitasking styles available and Apple has nothing to do with them
I reply your own comment to back to you ;) "So don't talk about stuff you don't seem to know."
Emerson, 11 Jul 2010No. You still don't get it. This OS is still in works, not even released to public, in beta te... moreI agree, mobile usage hardly never even reaches 600 Mhz unless playing HD movies. Nokia made their stand clear at last Mobile conference that they are focusing on productive energy efficient processors for 3 reasons.
First reason was having efficient battery life for professional, business and working class heavy users.
The second reason was the segment where not everybody has the financial luxury or access of charging the phone 2 times a day.
The third reason was taking responsibility in envoirmental issues
Reason 2 and 3 kind of goes together, something you can see clearly as Nokia is heavily investing in development in Mobile charging of the bicycle generator and the self charging phones that gets charged from movement.
Emerson, 11 Jul 2010No. You still don't get it. This OS is still in works, not even released to public, in beta te... moream just hoping they read and work on things that matters ... when me and u and others says we need faster faster powerfull device they will work on makin the device smoother and better ... they must listen to ppl demands ... if no one says anything no innovations and no upgradings will happens as the people are happy and not complaining!
am saying all of that cuz i love nokia i've been using nokias from 10yrs and am sad to find others taking their share from the market .., but nokia must change to live .
Emerson, 11 Jul 2010No. You still don't get it. This OS is still in works, not even released to public, in beta te... moreAnd when I say "NO ONE KNOWS" that also goes for me as well. I do not know if the processor and GPU will follow through like I explained. So it is best to wait and see.
sea-breeze, 11 Jul 2010@jon swe
u say i know where u comin from ?!! so whats wrong pal from where am coming from !... moreNo. You still don't get it. This OS is still in works, not even released to public, in beta testing. You have no idea whether it will be slow or fast like the old versions. NO ONE KNOWS. So when you say that this needs more RAM, processor, you can't say that for sure because you haven't even seen the finished product.
Damian and the people who work there can say how much RAM is needed because they're testing it, determining how much RAM numerous apps can take up when being multitasked.
In this specific example, you have almost 300MB of acting RAM. Almost enough to run plenty of apps.
And plus, the only theoretical way you could ever run out of app memory is if you had at least 30 APPS running. If you had 5 or 6, you could do just fine.
And you also need to know that this specific processor is underclocked from 1GHZ. Yes, this ARM can do that. It's underclocked to increase the battery life significantly, and because the new OS can thread and perform tasks without even going over the 700Mhz line. Additionally, most of the work being done while using the OS is off-handled by the GPU. Most of the new OS has tasks that are 3D hardware accelerated, so the GPU takes advantage of that, while the processor handles the little tasks. Do you understand how that works? You can perform intensive tasks and still have much battery life.
It's best that you hold off all your flawed criticisms until this device is released, then you will see.
u say i know where u comin from ?!! so whats wrong pal from where am coming from ! funnny,, dont let get go out of the point .., first u must know i have no envy at nokia i have no problem at all switching between fones that proves to be be better.
but the optical illusion u say isn't clear ad it isn't clear as well thats it isn't n8 .., but why the illusion apply on the fone and not on the man holding the fone ! from the position of the lens upper left corner it says am not n8 cause the n8 lens is at the middle ... the illusion could round things thats right but couldnt change measures! anyway am sure it gonna be a great imaging device am willing to buy one if it proves worthy.
thats a good sign of a great person to reply to a public fourm but the main problem is nokia must adapt to the new market needs most of us cant use the same OS for 10yrs now its the same sir from the pretty old the legendary 7650 and 3650 and old 6600 same icons and interface and signal and battery bars even items locations !! another thing when u announced the n86 8mp u said (nokia) heroic statments on its capabilities and 3rd generation leds and i believed u and bought it .., all i got is a laggy device that lags and take a year to even load the gallery thumbnails and to even load for about 8-10sec the camera app. from the standby screen with a very Stiff camera button that ruins all pics ?!!! with a disasteric noise at night shots that was ur new camera flagship !!!!
Thats why we demand more power and more ram to make the device smoother its not acceptable for a device to hang when using its own menu transition (n86) ... am afraid to pay for the n8 and get frusturated .., i'll wait for thousands to buy and read feedbacks then decide worthy or not worthy
ppl who say Symbian Doesn't need those 1ghz processors and those huge ram ... no sirs it NEEDS ... the n86 n97 (dont know about n900) do lag and hang and run out of memory and processing power.
Anonymous, 11 Jul 2010So which phones have a gyroscope???
Oh yeah, there's only one.
Leading the pack.Not everyone cares about the gyroscope..
Im one of them who dont cares..
If fruity phone got microscope Im sure buy it..lol
Anonymous, 11 Jul 2010Like i said before, i don't use Symbian, i use Maemo and Blackberry OS. I usually tell people ... moreYou totally said what I want to say..
Now for me only SymbianOS,AndroidOS,Maemo,Windows,Meego can called smartphone in da mobil3 industries..
Im really hope NOKIA can made a phone model in S40 series with 3.5 inch screen plus multitasking..maybe can beating iphone market..again can using bluetooth transfers that iphone4 cant..and get a goo d signal reception whatever how u hold your phone..
Anonymous, 11 Jul 2010That contest is rigged, the winner last year was a phone that wasn't even launched at the time... moreYeah right, and so is the Nobel Prize and Pulitzer.
TIPA is very well respected and sets the standard for professional photography. Everytim Kodak, Nikkon, Sony etc wins something on TIPA the boast about it.
They can get the devices before they are mass market released. TIPA awards quality, not being first at something. I think your understanding of the English language is lacking.
The whole world of photography is wrong, and you are right just so you can continue to be jealous hater. Good one, and pigs can fly, haven't you heard?
Anonymous, 11 Jul 2010I dont get that link.
In the end they say its pretty good at something its not, beeing a hand... moreSo which phones have a gyroscope???
Oh yeah, there's only one.
Leading the pack.
Anonymous, 11 Jul 2010Yes you are absolutely right. TIPA was so blind that they didn't see the difference between a ... moreThat contest is rigged, the winner last year was a phone that wasn't even launched at the time of the contest.
Sharp who made the first camera phone, first 1 megapixel camera phone, first camera phone with flash, first 2 megapixel camera phone, first 3 megapixel camera phone, first camera phone with optical zoom has never won a thing, proof that it's rigged.
Anonymous, 11 Jul 2010Like i said before, i don't use Symbian, i use Maemo and Blackberry OS. I usually tell people ... moreI dont get that link.
In the end they say its pretty good at something its not, beeing a handheld computer. And they twist the words so it comes out a a fantastic moive-player, which its not, due to the aspect ratio and the lack off codecs.
We browsing is pretty good. But unfortunately it doesnt do flash content, so you miss out on a lot of web-experience by having to use special apps for watching a video on a site. And you miss out on some of the video-sites as well.
Its the best handheld app-device in the sense that there is a lot of apps for it, and no one has managed to match that.
"t's the best handheld computer there is. Web browsing is a revelation, it's a fantastic music- and movie-playing iPod".
But its selling like crazy. So the marketing team at Apple are very good.
Still its well behind the startac series of the 90s and the 3310/3330 from early 2000. Perhaps even behind some other device that i dont know the sales figures for.
And its on level with the razr series (perhaps beaten it by some devices at this point).
So not even sales figure are un heard of... and imagine what the world looked like when all those other devices was on top of the game... lots of more people have cellphones today.
Anonymous, 11 Jul 2010It's as clear as this:-
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/10/sony-skips-over-alpha-line-uses-... moreYes you are absolutely right. TIPA was so blind that they didn't see the difference between a Hasselblad and Nokia in their hands for years.
It's not healthy to be so jealous. You are literally boiling inside. I can smell you frustration from here.
The REAL MULTITASKING is NOT juz open and opened again apps on your phone (back stage)..is running on many apps in 1 time and switching in short time..
My music is playing..my email keep refresh..Im playing games..imcoming Skype call..smses..stop the game and continueing go on Web..
Now Im trying t0 do on my 2 phone..My NOKIA N900 is keep me running over 85 applications..and my secondphone HTC hero can most only 30 apps..
Anonymous, 11 Jul 2010I talked about JAILBROKEN iphone which have full style multitasking not freezing apps it works... moreAll phones can "watching emails, surfing web, watching calendar, pics etc" .. What part of doing those stuff while in phone call or having them running and updating at the same time did you not understand?
Like i said before, i don't use Symbian, i use Maemo and Blackberry OS. I usually tell people that want eyecandy experience with the raw power of Symbian to go get Nokia N900 with Maemo.
Symbian is very powerful yet kind of a ugly OS but most people skin the OS, cause it's an open source and can twisted and changed whatever way you like. There are skins/themes that looks exactly like Android and iPhone OS for Symbian Touch if that's what you prefer.
No company is perfect. Nokia focused to much on the multimedia and forgot the user experience, Apple focused to much on the user experience and forgot that people actually need to make calls and not just shove it in the ass and press the iDildo vibrate app.
The amount of jealousy on this page is quite funny. The iTards a boiling within. It's not our fault that Steve took a huge dump on your face buy lying to you for 3 years about the misrepresented reception bars.
And so the tradition continues and the cult is following.
I can understand Android fans coming in here having argument, they have a good thing going, but iPhone fans, please, have some shame, not now.
Anonymous, 11 Jul 2010It looks as big as a Hasselblad...
... moresince you are beeing silly, it only proves that you actually do know that the thing you call lens on the pictures are only a optical illusion, and that it is in fact a Nokia N8.
Someone who actually believed it was another device, would be incline to agree that its not at all clear, but that the picture might rise suspection.
And they would also find that judging by the grip it actually has to be a pretty slim and lightweight device.
But your suggestions as so ridicolus that it clear that you dont even believe in that your self.
Anonymous, 11 Jul 2010Dude, learn something about phones, running apps in the background like the N900 and freezing ... moreI talked about JAILBROKEN iphone which have full style multitasking not freezing apps it works just like n900
"Iphone 4 cannot do that, Iphone freezes/pause the app you are using when you go to another, then when you go back it resumes. That's why you can't for example access the iPhone apps menu when you are in a call, cause it can't do 2 things at the same time."
I think you should try to iphone first before you talk about things you dont obviously know. Yo can do almost anything middle of phonecall
watching emails, surfing web, watching calendar, pics etc. No problem there