Anonymous, 21 Jul 2010The only area that seems to cause the signal bar drop, is where that tiny black strip is. It ... moreOh and they both have 48gb in total for storage and 512 ram!!! With no wrap around antenna.
Stop acting like your wrap around antenna is something great.
Come on Apple! Are you trying to show you are as bad as other companies? Focus on YOUR product! Don't know and doesn't matter to me what problem N97 has....i have an SE X10 mini and NO PROBLEM WITH RECEPTION LOSS AT ALL, even putting both hands all around it.....give me a break.....
Anonymous, 21 Jul 2010The only area that seems to cause the signal bar drop, is where that tiny black strip is. It ... morei don't think the glass is that good, because if you drop your iphone just 3 times the glass will crack in over 100
Anonymous, 21 Jul 2010The only area that seems to cause the signal bar drop, is where that tiny black strip is. It ... moreSamsung i897 captivate Samsung i9000s both at 9.9mm pack in a 1ghz processor 16M colors 480x800 screen res ,hd video rec 5 meg cam gps,3g at 7.2 and more and they dont need a silly wrap around failed antenna.
TruthSeekr, 21 Jul 2010Apple is a great company...but this is really a cheap stunt from such a company - instead of a... moreWho's Apple pointing fingers at?
Apple was being attacked by the media on a common issue that all phones suffers from. How else would they react? What would you do if you alone got suspended for something that 50 other people did as well? And after being suspended, you're also put under probation. Would you just keep quiet and take everything in while the others are enjoying and walking around freely pretending they're innocent, and they're not even your friends. Be realistic.
Yes, the ip4 has attenuation issues. But the question is. Is it really a big deal for its users? No it's not.
Samsung Galaxy S is more successful than Iphone4. Why? Because of its display production limit, its causing has been selling like hot cake. Analyse this.
Samsung said that its wave and galaxy s has sell more than 1million each since it launched it 1 month ago. Samsung Display could only produce 2 million of AMOLED display a month. Thus it isnt that Samsung Galaxy sales is lagging behind iphone4 but its Samsung component production thats causing it to lag behind.
seriously, what apple are doing here is plain disgusting! they make a huge mistake and then try to bring others down with them! its unethical and wrong! apple want the oil and will start a war over it
Tried it with my normal N97, didn't work.
Friend of mine has an N97 mini, just dropped 2 bars, that's it.
Not way as much as the new Iphone does.
Steven Job needs to stop kicking other brands, and begin to admit the problems, and try to find a solution for it.
I'm not pro Nokia or anti Iphone, but people who paid a lot of money for a phone like this deserve better then this.
Steven Job stop being childish, and fix the problem, instead of burning down other phones!!!!!
Has anyone notice how in the apple pics/video they have to have a " super death grip" to make the bars drop. To make a iphone 4 drop bars you just have to bridge the two ants in the video's those guys are holding the other phones so hard they're fingers are turning red and white to do the same thing. I dont know about you but I dont hold my phone that hard. Come apple just eat it and leave it alone.
PIRATE, 21 Jul 2010Ok, u seem to be lacking some technical info. Ill explain since u have no knowledge of the iss... moreThe only problem Apple faces is that they can't make enough iPhone 4's to meet demand.
Meanwhile Nokia is looking for a new CEO after Olli Pekkahead's pathetic attempts to stem the tide.
Maybe they shouldn't have said anything about Apple to start with, they weren't even mentioned.
Apple is a great company...but this is really a cheap stunt from such a company - instead of accepting the fact and saying "Yes, we messed up the antenna" they go around pointing fingers at others.
Yes, every antenna loses signal if you COVER IT UP, we get it!
But the difference with the iPhone is, you don't have to COVER the antenna the same way you do with the other phones...just TOUCHING the ends is enough to cause this effect - and THAT IS POOR DESIGN!
(check out the tests from Anandtech and others on what I mean)
PIRATE, 21 Jul 2010Ok, u seem to be lacking some technical info. Ill explain since u have no knowledge of the iss... moreThe only area that seems to cause the signal bar drop, is where that tiny black strip is. It shorts the antenna when you grip it. That small area can easily be avoided unless you have really big hands. A case pretty much eliminates the problem, which iphone users do anyway. And the signal drop does not always mean you'll drop a call.
The ip4's external antenna gave internal hardware room for Apple to improve other elements of the iphone while keeping a very slim design. Is it worth the trouble? I say yes. It is only the media and the haters who have exaggerated this whole attenuation issue. Users seem to be making and receiving calls just fine. Users and reviewers even claim that the iphone4 has better reception and call quality than the 3gs.
The proximity sensor bug is even less concerning and is an isolated case like the yellow tint spots were.
As for the glass case. It is a strong glass, and it's indeed highly scratch resistant. But it is still glass. And I personally prefer it over plastic. Glass will stay new looking for as long as you take good care of it.
Anonymous, 21 Jul 2010it happens on almost all phones, i just tried covering the antenna of my tiny phone and the n... moreOk, u seem to be lacking some technical info. Ill explain since u have no knowledge of the issue, ur tiny phone has an internal antenna which is better protected from light electric currents conducted from the human body, and ur tiny phone can be covered better with ur hand than other phones which will show u a drop in signal.
But the truth is that the Iphone 4 has an external antenna which we all know for a FACT that it is prone to the human body electric current and when gripped in the wrong way which is so called the "death grip" loses a huge amount of signal and fast, which may end up to dropped calls and disturbance in 3G connections. If u compare the iphone 4 and any other phone in an area with weak signal ull notice the huge difference and which of the phones lose signal faster.
Plus the external antenna is not protected and is prone to falls which may damage it, which will lead to a larger failure in reception. (This is comparison between a stock product with a stock iphone 4, NO BUMPERS INCLUDED )
Plus the iphone 4 has a proximity sensor issue which will probably be fixed later on, but it is still an issue which is NOT convenient for a user on a call, specially a long chat.
Another issue is the so called toughened glass, well it appears to be not so tough when tested, and shatters easily, the video is on youtube for who is interested .
it doesn't matter how many bars the main issue is how was the signal reception,i used it may be 2 bars but still able to establish a good and stong signal.
Apple Shmapple... many of us users do agree to a fact that iPhone is just an upgrade to iPod with basicest features for telephony... i mean what phone does not allow you to even share a file via bluetooth these days... claimed most advanced yet so yesterday's... any ways the debates on the coverage, recent studies have found that using a metallic clothe hanger next your IPHONE should boost the signals apar...
its really not funny
they should admit it like a proper SAIN company that something they launched has a MAJOR design fault
and yes nokia didnt loose all the signals nor did it end the call like APPLE
i really liked Apple b4 they started doing this!
Anonymous, 21 Jul 2010Bottom line is, ip4 is a successful device :) And you're trying so hard to pull it down, but y... moreyes you're right, it is indeed a successful device...a successful device in terms of selling millions of copies overnight to blindfolded fans like you who lined up at 4 in the morning...& funny thing is this is not the 1st time lol...every single time they bring out an iphone you silly ones with a tendency to follow & fall for a hype of a product rather then looking into it's specs run for the latest iphone...the 1st 1 no video no bluetooth transfer which were pretty basic when it came out but still you guys made the phone look like a god of all phone, why? cause oh the screen is so sensitive & omg there are 1000s of apps in apple store (even though i need to use only 10 at most lol)! following that was 3G & then 3Gs...OMG! they're bringing out 3Gs! its faster than 3g & has compass too! that's what you call an upgrade for your next phone? lmao...sony ericsson xperia is behind with it's firmwire...& they promised an update that would make the device not only faster BUT would enable it to record HD videos...that's an upgrade...they didn't make an entirely different phone just to add those 2 features to make more money...cause they know that their fans ain't stupid enough to fall for it unlike apple fans...same goes for other companies...they don't add 1/2 new features with same body construction to squeeze the shit out of consumers pocket! now comes iphone4, the 1st iphone that actually looked appealing to me...but now that i see it's having signal issues, & Steve Jobs acting like a kindergarten kid, & offering free cases to shut you guys off (which clearly worked cause you guys are dumb like that)...then pointing fingers at other companies to divert people's attention from what it all started, which was iphone4's issue...he's saying other brand's phones does it TOO, so then in a way he's admitting that yes iphone4 has issues...where i believe the 1st 3 iphones didn't have that issue...so my question is, why doesn't he fix it, rather than giving out cheap ass free cases & bringing in other companies in the middle just for the sake of saving apple's reputation, which already is at jeopardy?
it happens on almost all phones, i just tried covering the antenna of my tiny phone and the network bar droped but why should you hold the antenna when taking a call. please leave apple alone
Anonymous, 21 Jul 2010Who cares? Apple can afford to pay the best lawyers in the world. While Nokia would have to ... morehahaha nice 1, let me add:
While Apple get their lawyers, and nokia...I guess will be asking help from care-givers...to teach the youngsters what's right and what's wrong...
i dont understand how khan a finger point to other brands (wich ended have signal drop when they are odly held unlike the iphone 4 wich DROPS calls when NORMALY held) help me a iphone 4 user?