Anonymous, 26 May 2016I don't understand this obsession with updates.. People are using windows 7 while windows 8/8.... morethat's right! only few people care about the updates on android, as long as can use your phone on your everyday routine then that's fine, after a few years they will buy a new phone instead of updating it because they knew that the new phone they buy is already updated with the newest version
RejZoR, 26 May 2016Google should pressure vendors to release stock ROM's and deliver extra functionality via cust... more^This.
This is mint. If they do this, Samsung will not lag after a couple of months and everything would run properly if you don't download weird apps.
If OEM's do this though, then they cannot add in apps from their sponsors and all. Moreover, then they cannot justify the purchase of the new device they release and all. Illuminati Confirmed....
AnonD-152638, 26 May 2016Or rather Google should rebuild android in such a way that they can do security patches, witho... moreIt's too late now. They shoud have done when android was new. Now they will have to overhaul app store, frameworks, OEM contracts & everything to create a new OS.
Google should pressure vendors to release stock ROM's and deliver extra functionality via custom launchers which are independent from the OS core. This way OS can be updated as soon as Google releases update. Until they do this, they'll never fix this nonsense. I mean, most vendors release updates like half a year after Google releases update and when device is 2 years old, you can forget about updates even if it's a high end flagship model. For cheapo mid end models, forget about any updates from the start. Or at least give users option to run stock Google ROM or a customized one. I often prefer design or construction of one, but hate the damn sluggish updating of the OS. Or they have stock Google ROM updated asap and they have shit construction or specs.
I don't understand this obsession with updates.. People are using windows 7 while windows 8/8.1/10 are out and they didn't bother to update.. Because it still works damn fine..The same goes with mobile phone.. As long as it is working for the length of its service, people should not be panic when the device will not get the latest iteration of android.. You would have ditched the phone for a new phone later anyway..
Ahh Crap and Biased view, according to this logic Linus Torvalds is responsible if any Linux Distro don't release security updates on time due to fragmentation (rofl)
Google does not seem to be good at making OSes.
They bought the base for android, but really should have thrown it out an started all over.
Running Java on top of Linux doesnt seem like a smart idea. Sure it might have helped somewhat with getting developers on board, but google must have known that it's not a good way to give users the best performance. And back in the days they would not have needed that many apps anyhow. And by the time Apps really took off, developers would have learned to use a new programming language even if it had little similarity with the most used today, so borrowing from java would not have been necessary.
Also building not building in functionality for patching the OS, when it comes to bugs and and for security fixes, does not seem that smart.
Early on, there were even crucial features missing, that they should have been able to implement by patching the system.
They did right, when they allowed skins running on top of the OS. It allowed for carriers to brand their devices. It also allowed makers to differentiate. It allowed for makers to add features that google had not added yet. And since google does the work in developing android itself, the idea for new features, often come from these skins.
It also made it possible to make a skin for a device of another formfactor (not only thinking of mobiles in this case).
Chrome OS isn't really a good OS either.
Sure googles mission is to gather information about users, to be able to sell more ads.
But for that strategy to work, you have to make sure not to put users off using the OS, and turning to alternatives.
Beeing able to cast to a dongle, is nice.
However, having a built in browser with support for most plug-ins, would have allowed for access to most streaming services, many services that can be streamed through a browser are still lacking cast support in their apps.
Besides, built in browser could have opened up for google to sell separate remotes as accessories. I think a lot of buyers that initally would skip the remote, would buy one later.
Really bad app-support.
They should have built it so that it at least could run Android apps, with some kind of emulation of the buttons, at least til developers had seen the potential and developed proper apps for the system.
And what did they think off when they left out qwerty on the remote. Apple TV 4th generation, at least has proper voice-control.
Also Philips seems to have a lot of problem with their Android TVs, but that might be philips fault in the way they built support for the tuner, inputs or something like that, that external Android boxes don't have.
With all the money Google have, one can wonder why they could not hire some real competence and build a proper, effective multi purpose OS.
(One can also wonder how MS could fail so massively in the mobile market. They also have a lot of cash to spend, to do things properly, and a mobile OS seems crucial for MS to survive long term. They have to understand that they need hot hardware to get people to walk out with a Windows Mobile from the store, and they have to pay some developers to cover the most popular apps, if they had done both those things, they at least would have had a chance to start capturing the market share needed to get more developers on board. Really they should have turned to Samsung from the start. Had MS gotten exclusivety on edge display devices for a couple of years, they could have really gained massively in popularity. At the time Nokia had lost most of it's glory, so it was certainly not the company to partner with and later buy).
AnonD-80334, 26 May 2016it has a simple solution, get a nexus phone. This works well, I agree.
shizzil, 26 May 2016micosort u pay for and android is free as android is free thats why they dont update like micr... moreThat's most banal and boring excuse, I've ever heard.
"It's free, it's open, it must lag". That's your point?
Android was sick from start, that's what you get when you write an OS in java.
OEM phones is not worthed if you're an android fan.. Buy a Nexus or Motorola Unlocked.. Almost Instant Updates
great at least it inform buyers how the manufactures perform and cares to the customers.
sometimes i feel like android manufactures completly forget the customers after they bought the phones.
the option to upgrade is still customers freedom to choose but the manufactures need to make this option available, who dont want new features, better performance and new looks at their old devices? and if the buyers satisfied they will be loyal to the manufacture that what should drive the phone industry not by launching new models every month and hope it will sell without any customer service and support.
AnonD-430283, 26 May 2016Its not Google´s fail,its fail of OEMs. Google gives them latest Android builts ASAP,but... moreThey care but they're overwhelmed by hefty numbers of their device models including variants. It's a lot of work to do you know.
The main reasons for iOS users receiving updates quickly are: 1) Limited number of device models receiving updates. 2) No carrier branding and only a few variants of each model.
With Android, each OEM have their own device models, and often each device model have many variants for regions and carriers. For an example on Samsung, visit sammobile.com and see how many different firmware variants are available for any specific model. If you want frequent updates then you're best of with a Nexus phone.
Its not Google´s fail,its fail of OEMs. Google gives them latest Android builts ASAP,but they dont care. Maybe they should do something like with Android Wear,where Google is sending out updates and OEMs have only little word when it comes to updates
The blame should be on the mfg because ASOP Google is available very early but mfg chooses to skin Google with additional layers of software that are proprietary and makes it difficult to maintain as not many mfg have huge software teams to maintain updates.
A lot of mfg also purposely delay updates in order to sell newer devices.
reading a lot of these comments, kind of disturbs me. I guess they have never tinkered with there phone or anything. google should just release a stock base and then everyone can choose to update from that really?
thats disturbing , are you hoping 90% of the android phone are bricked regularly? or are we going to have a fine print disclaimer which says " must be able to write and install your own drivers if you use this"
after all the drivers are completely different and have to be rewritten , just going from kit kat to llollipop, and from lollipop to marshmallow. the drivers are completely different. the piece of information missing in the article, is how soon does google release the base for oem's to work on creating their drivers around it. if it is the same time that nexus gets an update. then i would expect at least a few months for oems to just create base drivers for the new os. followed by field testing (aka alpha level, beta level). this could go on and on, as to why this article doesn't make any sense. and comparing apple is even worse. it uses updates to obselete phones so you have to buy a new one.
That's solely Google to blame. Manufacturers shouldn't even think about it.
Lack of proper update subsystem, lack of proper driver subsystem, lack of binary distribution process. That's all Google faults.
dph.abu.shofwan, 26 May 2016I agree with you (and the original comment you commented on) I have found that I don't actual... more100% agree with you. If your OS is stable, there is little point to update unless for security concerns or better battery performance. As for Apple, they have only 1.5 devices, and all are slave devices built for never-to-be-released-sheeps. Can't you hear someone says "yes master!"???