Hi, 26 May 2016You're funny, I already said OEMs did not ask for Google to be like Apple who won't let users ... moreNo it is you who is spouting OEM apologetic nonsense that somehow it is Google's problem to ensure everyone gets the latest OS on their Android phones. You are only talking about your own limited perspective here. Let's hear what are those things that Google hasn't already done that OEMs have to offer in their phones as a OS level feature? Yeah good luck with that.
OEMs do nothing for the Android OS development, they don't develop anything on their own apart from bloatware and apps for their specialized hardware like fingerprint scanner, Camera, digital pens etc There is nothing in it for OEMs to take their own sweet time to release updates yet they do. Lazy sloppy sleazy OEMs, period. They know the average customer is dumb, consumers will buy it first for looks and costs, by the time they grow smart enough to realize their phone has no OS updates or support it is past that 1 year warranty period. Complaints have no effect, OEMs got their money, OEMs don't care. Rinse and repeat.
Users are demanding updates when they see someone else's android phone get those updates, by then it is too late because they were way too ignorant to find out what they were buying into in the first place.
"And as long as Android is open and free to use..."
More clichés in this article than a romantic Bollywood movie. Yes, it is open and free, but you HAVE to pay licenses to Google in order release your handset out in the market...
AnonD-448452, 26 May 2016One solution I feel is that Google should have a place from where people can download the late... morePs-
If such a website already exists, and I look like a complete idiot for posting this, please do put a link in the comments.
One solution I feel is that Google should have a place from where people can download the latest version of Android+all it's latest security patches seperately, free of charge so that they can flash their phones whenever they want, and then Google should treat them as Nexus devices so that they get the update to the next version as soon as it's out.
This would be beneficial coz there are thousands of us out there wishing our phones were stock and not with the useless crap that OEMs provide...
Yup this article is made by an apple fanatic
Openness? Yes let's make android like ios and see if it does not die instantly
Even though there are many versions wjo cares? It does not affect anyone
And by apple updating? Don't you mean the numberous bug filled updates?
AnonD-259899, 26 May 2016Google is already listening to users and implementing those features for nexus users. OEM cust... moreYou're funny, I already said OEMs did not ask for Google to be like Apple who won't let users costumize their phones, and you're talking about Nexus users? you're limiting Google's capability yourself, there are a lot of users that might not be able or will not want to buy phones to can only get Nexus crap and up. Lastly, I don't do crap from OEMs if that's what you're talking about, don't assume that users like me has limited perspective like you. BTW, it's not Samsung that OEMs and users are demanding to upgrade about.
There was a time where this was important but not anymore.
As i have a nexus tablet and a flagship phone, i was always able to experience things from both ends.
Ever since the kitkat update, there are no compatibility issues, a user with an older version of the OS, will face with the apps, on the contrary, the latest OS version may face some compatibility issues, before all the app devs update their apps to the latest version.
And the differences between os versions are now unignificant, ever since the washed out white bar was introduced and the material design, nothing really changed on the UI. And the new features rather gave more restrictions at not using yr sd card to install apps, rather helping all that much to performance and battery endurance.
OS fragmemtation is pretty much meaningless these times, OEMs are taking the time to make sure that they deliver stable ROMs!
Hi, 26 May 2016understanding OEMs point to have their updates to be available on every phone that Android sup... moreGoogle is already listening to users and implementing those features for nexus users. OEM customers never get most of it because of the things OEMs change while they also add in their own crap. What you seem to be asking for is Google to become another walled garden like Apple. Not happening.
What you can do as a consumer is stop buying shaite from such OEMs. but for this to be really effective the consumer needs to become a bit more savvy. The vast majority don't have a clue and this is not going to change, thereby giving OEMs free reign to release more trashy smartphones into the market.
Google already stepped in and asked Samsung to stop adding their clown apps that are duplicating what Google already has. Not to mention Samsung's apps are all total junk.
if you are still using your old android devices: OEMs are recommend you to keep your contacts in a physical pocket note book, photos in a physical photo album book, and videos in your own DVD media. and phone is just a phone call. Ops, do not forget to delete your call history after you made a phone call. all apps, hackers and even google is tracking you, yoU , yOU and YOU!!!
AnonD-259899, 26 May 2016You don't understand, google already provides the best base to start on, even without any extr... moreunderstanding OEMs point to have their updates to be available on every phone that Android supports is easy, and nobody said that the OEM is demanding Google to OS that people can't costumize, and above all else, even if Google is at the top, they still need to supply what the users ask for to stay at the top, and to remind you, users are not all OEMs, there are more users demanding these updates than the OEMs
Hi, 26 May 2016the OEMs are trying to point why iOS can spread the updates to their devices faster than Andro... moreYou don't understand, google already provides the best base to start on, even without any extra customization an OEM merely needs to take it and add-in their device specific drivers and provide very quick updates. But neoooo, OEMs feel the need to add their bloatware and take their sweet time to customize their UI and all the other pointless stuff that comes with it. Many OEMs don't even bother.
Almost every OEM out there is in it for pointless differentiation through UI and visuals.
The moment Google starts to make it illegal to have customized OSes a lot of these crappy OEMs will pull out thereby affecting Android's market share. Maybe for the sake of uniformity Google needs to accept that for the greater good they need to take total control over UI and not allow any form of customization to Android beyond what Nexus users can enjoy. Still though it wont prevent crappy companies like Huawei from releasing phones left right and center and not bother with another OS update ever again. Android cant do what Apple does, that would mean just a handle full of pre-determined hardware specs to limit the development times for varying devices and drivers for them.
AnonD-259899, 26 May 2016The author of this article is clueless. It is not pressure on Google, they are least bothered ... morethe OEMs are trying to point why iOS can spread the updates to their devices faster than Android, it's not about how Google can care less, even here in GSMarena and other sites, people are complaining why Android cannot make Marshmallow or other OS updates available on the devices they support
This is useless. The only phones Google releases (Nexus) get the new OS version day one.
The fact that other OEMs fork android to create their own version of it is not Google's problem nor should the forks be lumped with Stock Android.
The reason it takes so much for many of them to upgrade is because they have changed the OS so much (some of them) that in many aspects they run something different.
Take touchwiz, it takes often 6 months since google's release to update their phones, but by their own standards they are on time. It's Q2 for the new touch wiz to get released, not a day before, so from their own perspective they don't lag behind.
You can't compare apples to oranges. If Apple were to let OEMS to fork iOS the exact same issues would exist for her as well. The fact that they don't share their software is not sth to be praised, stop backhanded compliments for a failing paradigm of doing software...
I do not think it is Google fault. The phone makers are having an agenda to make it difficult for existing customers so they update to a new phone with the latest OS.
I guess everyone knows by now who I am talking about if you have one of Sammy's devices
So much with 'flavor' OS OEMs. Could have been tweaked audio and camera algorithms(or whatever you think is essential) and you're set to go. No more whining on delayed Android updates. But that's just me.
The author of this article is clueless. It is not pressure on Google, they are least bothered how it affects the OEMs, because the OEMs are the thieving scoundrels who are out to make a quick buck off of the consumer selling shody phones with little to no updates to firmware later on.
Android is already very streamed lined to the point updates are very easy to any phone. All any OEM needs to do is make their add-on software available as apk or on playstore to be downloaded, Along with that do away completely with the lame touchwiz, timescape, FlameOS garbge once and for all. No one needs or asked for their totally useless customization to the theme/launchers.