Anonymous, 07 Jun 2016Phones are all about form factors. We definitely need a keyboard until voice recognition is up... moreAny of can be "bloated" if you fingers are not fit for purpose and you don't know how to use it.
AnonD-546034, 07 Jun 2016Black Berry got success because of its qwerty but you can not always use one trick ...th time ... morePhones are all about form factors. We definitely need a keyboard until voice recognition is up to the standard. Unfortunately we have an Android OS that is bloated and not fit for purpose.
Every form factor possible has been done pretty much. Just putting a slab like everyone else means we have ocean of devices all doing the same thing, looking more or less the same and all competing for pennies. This pennies means no updates, no support, no customer service when you most need it. Essentially landfill.
Who would pay 700$ for a phone with a mid-range processor and graphics chip? Hahaha!
Blackberry keeps making the same mistake.
They keep pricing their devices too high initially.
On AMZN the PRIV sells for $415 and that seems to be driving sales. No one is going to pay AT&T $699 when you can pay far less somewhere else.
Blackberry needs to drastically lower the price with AT&T and other carriers.
Blackberry is coming out with two more mid-range Android devices later this year and if they price them for more than $300 USD they won't sell very many of them either.
John Chen and Blackberry need to be far more aggressive with their pricing especially when the devices are being released initially. Otherwise, when they finally get around to dropping the price, they've lost any consumer "buzz" that's going around, they missed the holiday season by pricing it too high and people won't care when they finally do reduce the price.
Anonymous, 07 Jun 2016@Linas How many Android OEM's are making money? How many of the bigger OEM's are losing mon... moreThat is very good point. You just reinforce what I am saying... Only Samsung and Huawei is making money (LG makes something like 1.2% profit), the rest are losing money... That just highlight that Android is not behind Samsung success... but it is innovation, refinement and latest technology. BB mistake is to think that only switching to Android is enough, without supplementing it with refined high end hardware... No it is not..
Black Berry got success because of its qwerty but you can not always use one trick ...th time is over. If they launch a phone havin gjust touchscreen we'll like that. Every company is not Apple.
sa11oum, 07 Jun 2016Like a lot of people, I would gladly have this as my backup phone if it was 350-400$, because ... moreReal value is in software work OEM's are putting in. Why do you think Samsung devices for so long got a lot of stick? Because they didn't have much wiggle room despite it being open source OS.
Linas, 07 Jun 2016At least BB are not alone in losers bang bus - they have Nokia alongside... Nokia as well had ... more@Linas
How many Android OEM's are making money? How many of the bigger OEM's are losing money hand over fist?
Android is not a panacea however we have to accept that people will buy what other people in their circle buy. There are some good aspects to the platform but their are very real privacy concerns. There are very real concerns about after-market support when it comes to repairing, security patches, good customer service.
It's expensive because it's a BB phone. They've always been expensive. I guess the reason ppl now see it as overpriced is cuz it's running Android. An OS non tech ppl(in this case business ppl and government workers) associate with low-end cheap phones. I personally wouldn't buy this phone either, even if it were priced right. BB WAS cool back in the day but now it's just an old clunky dinosaur. They still have a loyal fan base and Indonesia, but is that enough for BB to move forward and still be relevant in the mobile phones business, I don't know.
mir, 07 Jun 2016Nope. Their biggest mistake was not switching early to android and pricing their phones right.... moreAt least BB are not alone in losers bang bus - they have Nokia alongside... Nokia as well had an option to use android.. declined it ... and look where they are now..
Like a lot of people, I would gladly have this as my backup phone if it was 350-400$, because that's what it's worth. The Priv isn't a bad phone by any means but the price was/is ridiculous.
Linas, 07 Jun 2016What was great about it? Limited app store, non-intuitive controls, limited by any smartphone ... moreA truly multitasking OS made for touch devices from the ground up. Limited apps is not necessarily a bad thing, only if you like to kill time and battery. Secure from the get go,
If Android had to be rewritten for 2016 onwards from the ground up it would look like BB OS 10.
Striker, 07 Jun 2016Biggest mistake - to switch from a wonderful OS to Handroid...Nope. Their biggest mistake was not switching early to android and pricing their phones right. Samsung did this with the very first Galaxy S and look where they are now.
yee, 07 Jun 2016for fk sake really?1 switching is not for half brained people. give android to typical apple ... moreGood point... I agree average iphone user is about 3 years of college behind average android user (at least in smartphone sense)...
for fk sake really?1
switching is not for half brained people. give android to typical apple user and they would need 3year college to get to know it(especially because ios require absolutely no brain-but ios has no options).
secondly 700 for a prototype(new os) is a joke. if this companyhad any brains behind their strategy then they'll release half solid mid ranger to give its customers a fell for android(instead they go for one phone every 3-5years with so much change that typical Joe has no clue what to do with it with tpo specs and price higher than latest iphone)they'll surely have to sack the person that introduced this strategy or shoot themselves in the head if they want to carry on like this. HTC's strategy is a joke but this is a massacre!
Landscape slider and a reasonable price, unlockable bootloader..... watch it sell like crazy
AnonD-383472, 07 Jun 2016Completely wrong. Bb 10 was very good. App store lacking but the rest of it was greatGreat... maybe at BB standards... When you say great, you need to make some comparisons, nothing are good or bad on their own. So in a way I agree - it was good, but not bets... In smartphone word coming second is not enough ( or say 4th)...
Linas, 07 Jun 2016You probably joking right? BB 10 is as intuitive and efficient to use as Symbian... at the bes... moreYou have obviously never owned a BB 10 smartphone and judging by your comments, you are 99.9% a troll. Anyway just to enlighten you, pls be informed that Bb 10 is not limited in terms of settings at all. These even use android apps now so the app gap slightly narrowed. And the Almighty Hub.....efficiency at it's finest.