exNokiaFan, 20 Aug 2010wow seems to me you are just trying to justify your love for Nokia. Sorry but like i said Ram ... moreNo doubt, ram is a keyfactor in os performance but still how do you determine the optimum amount of ram to stick in a phone? How do you know the optimum amount required to run an os? Comparing ram amounts betweenr os's is as dumb as any. Windows xp runs fine on 256mb. Vista won't dare on anything less than 1gb. Windows 7 runs lag free on 512mb. See the difference?
You need to understand that the people at nokia know much more than you do. Why would'nt they just stick it in if it would make it better? I mean they wanna sell it.
The n95 was the first true allround smartphone. 64mb ram is sufficient to run s60v3. The problem was users heavy on multitasking. The ram was doubled (128mb) to allow users use more apps at once. It didn't make the device faster or more fluid or the os any more stable. Its impossible to deplete 128mb ram on s60v3. So 256. . . Thats something formidable if the os still starts with an s.
Anyway, this is a meego unit. It'll probably have the big processor and bulky ram you wan't so bad.
spock99, 21 Aug 2010nokia N9 looks awesome but I and many N97 users wont be fooled again by nokias sub standard pr... moreflagship Nseries for meego and flagship for symbian3 so far this will be like the n95 lots me sales
The N9 looks like a well built and well designed phone, hope the specs are good too since its running Merging. A platform that I guess will have a big impact in the market. All the best Nokia, hope the final products is good as it looks, can't wait for the announcement.
torrentblock, 20 Aug 2010if processor speed is not important, why do NOKIA keep using faster and faster processors?this is because there has been constant upgrade in OS eg s60v2 ,v3 ,v5 and now symbian^3 OS
nokia N9 looks awesome but I and many N97 users wont be fooled again by nokias sub standard products (thats putting it politely) and hype ,prove me wrong nokia let this new product be the dogs wotsits and i will be very happy if not i will be going a different route come new phone time but im not a fruit lover so anybody got any good recommendations regarding possible new phone candidates lol .spock99
joe, 21 Aug 2010good gawd that's an ugly phone. it's a rip off mac pro with an awful unnecessary shape. it ... moreyou know what the iphone 4 looks like a sliced n800 so donat talk and all the other touch phones look like the iphone so quite trolling
good gawd that's an ugly phone. it's a rip off mac pro with an awful unnecessary shape. it screams 'i'm trying', but it obviously isn't a looker.
Engineer Man, 20 Aug 2010Whatever people say. There are humpteen factors involved for a processor, ram to do their job.... morewow seems to me you are just trying to justify your love for Nokia. Sorry but like i said Ram is a key factor in over all user experience. Things processor efficiency and ram makes up a lot. Nokia has a track record of using low end products that barely worked. Case in point, Nokia N95. Their limited amount of ram lead to many flaws on the phone. Then they released the N95-8GB which had an "increase" of 32MB ram.. wow.. So tell me why did Nokia need to release the 8GB version with memory increase if ram wasn't as importance as you said? Because Nokia actually listened to their customers for once when they complained about how lack of RAM on the N95 was affecting user experience. Why do you think Iphone users have a better general over all experience? Because of the CPU architecture. A8 SoC is far superior than anything that Nokia used in the pass. Even their endeavors to use the A8 in the Nokia N900 was a failure due to their choice of OS. You can tout about how Symbian and Maemo is open source all you want and that how it's a community "full of developers". Yet OVI store and maemo really had nothing enticing for it to keep market share. I purchased the N900 in hopes that it would've rekindle my interest in Nokia phones once again. However the experience left a bitter taste in my mouth. In a tech market where cutting edge is what sells you don't put out a product with "just fast enough specs" and call it a top end phone. Could you have imagined if Samsung released the Galaxy S with a 600Mhz version of the A8 and a detuned hummingbird? The user experience would be totally different from what the Galaxy S is today. I have the Galaxy S right now as my primary phone and I am very pleased with it. I have nothing against Nokia, I only go with the product that fits my needs best. The E71 was a great phone as its battery usage was wonderful. If Nokia produces the N9 with specs that can contend in today's market and give a better user experience then I will gladly buy it.
deep space bar, 20 Aug 2010it means the OS requires less CPU power and RAM to run consistenly Symbian started 100 - 20... moreyou always know your stuff. respect to you. but if this is the n9 then what is the other device they are supposedly coming out with that looks just like it. is it the C9?
torrentblock, 20 Aug 2010when you say an OS is "heavy" i'm assuming you mean it can do more things...?it means the OS requires less CPU power and RAM to run consistenly
Symbian started 100 - 200mhz with 32 -64mb
And now is at 434 - 680mhz
128 -256mb ram
Android,ios,winmo and bbos all need 500mhz - 1ghz
256 -512mb ram just to run properly
With what symbian is capable of doing with low clockspeed and ram
Other OSs can't even do it
How symbian was built was to utilize every resorce available with minimal power
And they have been doing it for 10 years lol
Its only rational for one to be cautious about symbian considering devices like the n97. But one must appretiate the difference between s^1 and s^3.
S^1 was nokias hurried response to the touch screen age. Basically s60v3 with a touch overlay and some lame graphics. S60v3 on its own, is undoubtably the best os in its category. But it wasn't designed for touch. Symbians success is mainly due to its functionality and compatibility with numerous platforms but also due to its efficiency. It prides itsself with being able to run and perform on the cheapest hardware. Infact, thats what it was designed to do. S^1 complicates matters with its graphics. Kinetic scrolling, vibra feedback, . . . Symbian wasn't meant to do all these hence the crashes and restarts. Faster processors don't help. Its like windows vista. The biggest of processors and the bulkiest of ram, windows explorer would still 'not respond' atleast once every hour. The absence of a gpu to run graphics in s^1 devices show how ill optimized the os was. Updates have solved much of these issues though. Atleast i know nokia 5230 on firmware 20.xx is as smooth as it gets.
S^3 is the product of decades of experience in mobile manufacture and 2years of experience in the manufacture of touch screens. Its touch to the core. Why then would you expect anything but performance from it?