AnonD-446067, 30 Aug 2016Most of those phones I was referring to are available offline. And brand power is shitty, and ... moreEven Samsung isn't doing bad in online sales ..
Now you can get the idea of how it's offline sales will be like..
Samsung should buy AMD then make server processors. Intel Xeon needs a competition.
This means Samsung's 14nm fab is running at high gain that they can allocate some capacity to produce cheap chips. I guess S8 will use 12 or 10 nm.
AnonD-446067, 30 Aug 2016Most of those phones I was referring to are available offline. And brand power is shitty, and ... morepeople trying new phones are a very small percentage of total sales.. the mass sales thrive on Brand power and marketing, it doesn't matter how much better your cheap competitor is to an uninformed average consumer.. apart from lenovo , no other competitor even has a positive brand image .. all others are treated like "Cheap Chinese phones" in the mind of average consumers... long term reliability, after sales services , resale value of these competitors are pathetic ..
AnonD-411204, 30 Aug 2016Well since Kirin 650 is a octa-core and 7570 is quad-core, I really doubt the Exynos can be fa... moreI really don't have that deep knowledge of chips and chip architecture, but from what I know, just because this new chip will be made on 14nm process, doesn't mean it will be really good. That's all I was getting at.
AceShot, 30 Aug 201614nm is not a processor, but a procces. This one here is on 14nm entry level cpu. There are mi... moreLol, where did I say 14nm was a chip. I said that this chip, Exynos 7570(?), us probably going to be lower clocked, and have a weaker GPU, so it will probably will still ve slower than the chips if competition(especially Kirin with thier 6XX chip).
Nokia, 30 Aug 2016Those j series phones from samsung will still sell more than the competition you are referring... moreMost of those phones I was referring to are available offline. And brand power is shitty, and people are finally trying out other brands. And those phones I am referring to are objectively better in every way than the same or higher proces Samsung phone.
Anonymous, 30 Aug 2016that's 16 nm...That is the equivalent of Samsung's 14nm. Remember A9 SoC in iphone 6s & 6s+. It had 2 versions - one manufactured by Samsung on 14nm and the other manufactured by TSMC on 16nm. So Kirin 650 is an equivalent comparison on process node.
However as another person pointed out, Kirin 650 is octa-core and this SoC Exynos 7570 from Samsung is quad-core. So that is not a fair comparison in terms of performance.
AnonD-446067, 30 Aug 201614nm is not amazing at all since it will probably be clocked less and have a less powerful gpu... moreWell since Kirin 650 is a octa-core and 7570 is quad-core, I really doubt the Exynos can be faster as a whole. Maybe the 14LPP process allows better single core performance than 28HPM/HPC (if it's clocked faster and/or has a bigger cache), but I don't think that's Samsung main goal with this chipset.
I believe Sammy is aiming at small SoCs with very high yield.
AnonD-446067, 30 Aug 2016Far from best selling. Its competition will have Full HD 5.5", fingerprint sensor, Auto Bright... moreThose j series phones from samsung will still sell more than the competition you are referring to ... 1) partly because 80% of sales happen offline , 2) Marketing and Brand power 3) Most people care for long term durability + ASS than raw specs
Specs geek be like, "Omg! Is that all they got? You call that cheap?"
AceShot, 30 Aug 2016Why 3000 battery. If we look at Xiaomi, they have 4100 battery with 28nm cpu.. And latest 14nm... morebecause im just being realistic and said what is probably going to happen next year. that is why i said it IS going to be the best selling phone outthere.. because it will be cheap also
i can go and say my wish list, like notification led, ip rating, 5000 battery, 32 gb storage at least, capacitive offscreen navigation buttons etc... but thats what i could live without...
and considering firstly stated specs will be for a phone almost free with carrier contract, its going to sell like a icecream on summertime.. 5 inch, maybe perfect size balance, and 3000 mah on amoled, 14nm quad will last three days, and still going to be enough powerfull as a daily driver for a majority of people
Anonymous, 30 Aug 2016Another crap from Samsung, like always those copycats.U mad bro?
Copying what? Samsung makes everything inside your phones. K9 Thunder tank, Burj Khalifa, their own amusement park, their own city, military division, TV, appliances, makes SoC, memory, displays, and DRAM. Samsung is everywhere including any appliance or electronic device you use.
Samsung is a bigger conglomerate than Sony. But you did not know that, did you?
AnonD-465953, 30 Aug 2016What is A52I guess is a typo of Cortex-A53. Or a new core I haven't heard of.