TSH, 29 Oct 2010Good post, and great to see you're obviously not a fanatic! :--D
I advocate Symbian as supe... more1) Because most handsets use A-GPS which means the GPS module is assisted by 3G and use triangulation to calculate the position.
Nokia handsets do not come with all web standards out of the box. For example, Flash 10.
"I would use my N95 8GB to send a screenshot of my position on the built-in map as an MMS, while listening to music and checking my hotmail through the web browser; I type my lecture notes at university with a bluetooth keyboard on my N97 Mini, while I frequently switch back and forth bewtween Notes and Browser so large pages can load in the background, and Messaging so I can chat with my mates at the same time - that is what you call multitasking, and I've yet to see another system where I think "I wonder if I can do *this*", and there is a way to get it done built right in to the OS!"
Regarding this comment, a Nokia N900 can doo all of your listed features. This (mobile computer) runs on Maemo 5 (Linux).
Duel, 28 Oct 2010"Not all of us live in America... I browse a lot more .co.za websites than .com ones.&quo... moreThose .com .net .org .something appear when you type dot (.)
No need for buttons, silly.
TSH, 29 Oct 2010Good post, and great to see you're obviously not a fanatic! :--D
I advocate Symbian as supe... moreMe again!
Forgot that I also expect
(7) File transfer and stereo audio via bluetooth. This is a basic function!
(8) Proper file manager on the handset itself
(9) The ability to install software from whatever source I choose (ie no dependence on "store" or "market")
goron goron, 28 Oct 2010sorry mr.engineerman i have some question which i always feel strange when i read bout symbian... moreGood post, and great to see you're obviously not a fanatic! :--D
I advocate Symbian as superior, but I can't speak for VPN or RDM - I've no use for either of those functions. On the subject of Symbian being a nerd-friendly system, I did find this page amusing (caution: he's deliberately over-the-top, so take with a grain of salt): www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone.
The way I see it all but the cheapest of modern mobile phones are convergence devices - some more than others, but most can serve as phone, PDA (calendar, contacts, notes), music player, GPS unit and alarm clock.
To succeed at this, I require that the device performs each of those functions in a satisfactory way: there are certain expectations I have of a phone, PDA, GPS unit or media player.
I've used Symbian, iOS, Android and earlier versions of WinMo - and of the lot only the Nokia and SE handsets running Symbian have met my expectations.
I don't know if this is entirely attributable to the OS alone - we won't know 'till Nokia's next non-Symbian system.
Some specific examples:
(1) I expect that my GPS will have maps preloaded, and that I will be able to navigate without having to be online. Why should I be required to broadcast my location to the network just to get from A to B?
(2) I expect that my media player will support drag-and-drop from within Windows Explorer, standard media libraries such as WMP and Winamp, and combine files from internal/removable storage into one library.
(3) I expect my PDA to have usable and accessable calendar/contact features, and that there is an easy way to back up and restore my contacts, notes, messages and calendar.
(4) I expect my phone to send and recieve calls and messages flawlessly, with full support for SMS, MMS and video calling.
(5) I expect a real convergence device to make an attempt to draw relevant features together. For instance, being able to immediately locate a given Contact on the GPS map, using only the Contact's address details.
(6) I expect my portable web browser to support accepted web standards for multimedia to the extent that the hardware is capable.
Many of these criteria are satisfied by the most modern of Android phones, and iOS is *still* playing catchup. But AFAIK only Nokia handsets are capable of all of the above in their "out-of-the-box" state. I would use my N95 8GB to send a screenshot of my position on the built-in map as an MMS, while listening to music and checking my hotmail through the web browser; I type my lecture notes at university with a bluetooth keyboard on my N97 Mini, while I frequently switch back and forth bewtween Notes and Browser so large pages can load in the background, and Messaging so I can chat with my mates at the same time - that is what you call multitasking, and I've yet to see another system where I think "I wonder if I can do *this*", and there is a way to get it done built right in to the OS!
goron goron, 28 Oct 2010sorry mr.engineerman i have some question which i always feel strange when i read bout symbian... more*proper multitasking.
*ability to run on a low hardware without limiting you with the full OS' features.
*installation on sd cards (now available on android finally through froyo)
*usb-otg is a symbian feature i guess
*proper file manager
*native java support
*100% user themeable
*flash support (vs. Ios)
*sending files through bluetooth (vs. Ios)
*and many more things i'm not aware off because i hardly use it(video call, tethering, hdmi)
lets say symbian is already functionally complete. The only thing that lacks in symbian is usability, which is the most important thing by today's smartphone standards. These updates are trying to fix those issues.
What??? Retired because of Nokia??? In the first place, the N8 had to be released with this new browser but as happened with the N97, Nokia is launching its devices almost in beta stages.
I really want to believe in you again Nokia!!! I really do.
me, 28 Oct 2010I'd like to clarify that I am an avid Nokia supporter however with the N8's current price sche... moreThe Nokia is retailing at 419 Euro here in Dublin. I have seen online here for 409. If it costs over 500 Euro in Greece you are being ripped off. By the way Ireland is an expensive country so if its about 420 here it should be nowhere near 500 in Greece.
i wish they make it better than any mobile internet browser such as safari, opera mozailla and skyfire
me, 28 Oct 2010A release date for this should be made official. A lot of people are still holding out on the ... moreIf you are more interested about some release date than the phone itself, then you really should buy something else. Browser is just one part of the N8. There is so much more that N8 has. I'm a lot more interested in all the other great features that N8 has that the other phones don't have. And there are a lot of them. And I know I'm getting updates all the time from Nokia, unlike the case is with Samsung or some other Android manufacturers. Samsungs update policy seems to be: Avoid Making Updates.
I know the new browser is coming. That's enough for me. Besides, the current browser is usable. And I can always use Opera (or some other browser) if needed.
[deleted post]that is the best thing NOT A qwerty on portrait.!!! it means u can use your phone with one hand. and you can type mush faster than any other touch screen related operating system.
qwertyu on portrait (with small keys) was one of the most annoying futures in ios . and guess what???? IT IS STILL NOT FIXED , also there is no application to fix that $hit. DAMN how i hate iphone"!
Nokia, you make sam/apple/htc/moto fanboys jealous of your generosity xD
Anonymous, 28 Oct 2010Same old shit, I am happy I left S60V5 behind and switched to Android, now browsing is great :) If you're happy with your handicapped OS then why are you posting here?
I still believe in Nokia, and i love my N8.
I dont like IOs that has internet browser uncapable of playing flash videos, its only the NAME that apple made famous for. Android, haven't any back ground.
Why Nokia? Because Nokia still have the ease of use, and user friendly features that Samsung can't beat no matter what OS they use. N8 is a perfect device for me, still need to be polished but i know nokia won't fail with the avid users of their mobiles...
Same old shit, I am happy I left S60V5 behind and switched to Android, now browsing is great :)