I still wonder why people are so pissed at nokia for putting full focus on their c7 and c6-01. If you dont like it, there is always the n8 people. The concept makes total sense to me. Full focus actually makes it simple for the users to take pics, faster too (without waiting for the auto-focus to kick in). My mom has a n82 and yet she just press the button without caring bout the auto-focus (whether is properly focused or not).
Herocoder, 23 Nov 2010Any autofocus camera, you set the focus to Infinity and it works like a fixed focus camera. Yo... moreGo read the actual post, please. I think I believe someone with little more credit in camera design.
Sails , 23 Nov 2010Alright let me try that again. I'm happy with N8 and would rather want AF than Full Focus. Th... moreAny autofocus camera, you set the focus to Infinity and it works like a fixed focus camera. You cant do the reverse with a fixed focus camera. So basically the camera is less capable and no amount of convincing is gonna fool anyone buddy.. and honestly it would have been next to nothing for Nokia to give it to users.. but no .. why?? corporate policies dude.
no matter, 23 Nov 2010At this point i agree with nokia. It is stupid to race the "camera quality" competit... moreif you think all people who want better camera in mobile are idiot, why do n8, satio and pixon 12 exist in this world???
and that "show off" applies only for ridiculously overpriced iphone...
u better stick with nokia c2 or lower....ur comment doesnt make any sense in the news...
I'm an N8 owner .. and someone who values the camera on my mobile phone ..
Its kind of a fact that every Mobile company has the strategy to 'not make a perfect Mobile' complete in all respects so as to sell other models in their own brands.
This hugely pays off in the short-term that people want better ones all the time and would stop buying stuff if they are satisfied with their mobiles.
Thats the reason we see features being left out and no mobile 'complete' and Steve Jobs has his own style of introducing the 'inadequacy' in a mobile and Nokia arent new to the game either.
But then with their declining trends Nokia has to start thinking out of the box. Perfect phones do sell and they sell like crazy a good example was the Nokia 5130 xpressmusic that had everything one could expect in a budget phone and sold in millions.
People may not change mobiles that often if they are satisfied, but then a mobile doesnt last forever either.. and get outdated as quickly too with the technology rise. So even making a perfect phone today is not gonna be perfect tomorrow. Ideally 'Perfect phones for a price range market' with different audience would cut it really well. Like a touch phone, a business phone, a slim phone and so on.
Wake up Nokia, and stop giving such stupid excuses for your strategies and policy coverups. You are fooling noone and its gets even more ridiculous with the days. The autofocus is the life of any camera and sorry Nokia basically u killed your own sales and no amount of false propaganda is enough to cover this up. Better own it up Damian and Nokia.
Anonymous, 23 Nov 2010I em old nokia user, i have change several nokia phones, now i own nokia5800xm red and N97mini... moreyup... exactly...
i also feel just the same about nokia and i wont go for apple either... :(
[deleted post]iPhone 4 and Galaxy S are having indeed AF Camera in a slim body but do not forget these handsets are bigger in size ant maybe that is why they could have fit an AF camera.
I agree that this new Full Focus technology is not revolutionary from the quality of the picture point of view. But imagine that the next upgrades will make slimmer/smaller shape factor devices include a camera that will provide better pictures and HD movies and who knows maybe AF too.
Remember, it is not about technology, its about what you can do with it.
At this point i agree with nokia. It is stupid to race the "camera quality" competition. Especially with the biggest bullsh*t called iPhone. Awerage quality is always enough, becouse if you go shooting - you take decent digital camera with you. Some idiots needs phones to show off, some people needs just a good looking comunication device.
akash from nepal, 23 Nov 2010One handset is still left in 2010-Nokia x7(xpressmusic with symbian^3)will be the 8megapixels ... morehow did u know that?? Eldar le bhaneko ho?? Lmao...
and i dont think they will use CZ optics with autofocus... and they will make an excuse " guys, this is music phone not cameraphone. If you want cameraphone with CZ and autofocus go for n8. " lol..;)
Sails , 23 Nov 2010Alright let me try that again. I'm happy with N8 and would rather want AF than Full Focus. Th... morewhat exactly does that "you need to know" mean? those people who know (in ur words) c7 will definitely know n8 also, both r technically same...
why those street guys will grab c7 rather than n8?? because its cheaper, obviously!!! and did Mr. Dinning talk about economy??? Nope, and he is hypocrite, just like Jobs....
I em old nokia user, i have change several nokia phones, now i own nokia5800xm red and N97mini, but much as i understand nokia philosophy and their politics is to gain hopes to costumers not to run away but no more, otherwise every new product they made so much upgrade the other hardware thing degrade and their heroic calls "wait we have Meego lost on maps" and similar stories where they seem really lost themselves on their own garden, and their bosses running for freedom elsewhere, and i em not going to bay ever again nokia phone anymore, but i will never go for apples either!
i bought a C7 a couple of weeks ago. i'm loving it.
I bought the C7 primarily as a phone/communicator device, and wanted something that felt good, in the tactile sense, in the hand, the pocket and against the ear. it ticks those boxes.
the camera sucks closer than 50cm, but is adequate beyond. however, the video recording on it has blown me away.
Anonymous, 23 Nov 2010super slim camera modules???
do u know iphone4 and samsung galaxy S feature autofocus camer... moreAlright let me try that again. I'm happy with N8 and would rather want AF than Full Focus. That was not my point. It also wasn't Damian Dinnings point, so people should stop saying that.
I'm also pretty sure that if I give N8 and C7 to 10 random people from the street, the end results will be better with C7. That is because with N8 you actually need to know what you are doing.
One handset is still left in 2010-Nokia x7(xpressmusic with symbian^3)will be the 8megapixels with carlzeiss optics,autofocus but dual led flash announce date is at mid december 2010 because from 2011 there will be the symbian^4(adobe flash10.1 support)& meego everybody known!
Sails, 23 Nov 2010Its funny how the Nokia haters come here to bash and yet none actually read or understood what... moredude, im not a nokia hater. Im currently using one of the nokia symbian device...
i just hate this hypocracy and i wonder how easily you guys accepted that... :\
Anonymous, 23 Nov 2010Hypocrite, why if it was better, this great technology was not given to N8, Apple and symbian ... moreDon't be ridiculous. All mobile OS have their extreme fanboys!
There are extreme fandroids (AKA Android Fanboys) too you know.
Each OS has its own pros & cons, the extreme fanboys included.
I'm sure most phone users, be it a Symbian phone user, an iPhone user, or an Android phone users don't even bother to bash the OS they don't use -- because it's wasteful and useless. Why not just enjoy the phones you're using? If you don't like something, then how about be a little more constructive with your criticisms instead of just trolling?
i'm nokia user and very very disappointed nokia mid-end phones use full focus camera..
[deleted post]Its funny how the Nokia haters come here to bash and yet none actually read or understood what Damian Dinning said. I guess that says something, but mostly about them.