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- Anone
- kTN8
KMB877, 14 Oct 2016Correct. --- On the other hand, if you have a CDMA/LTE phone (unlocked) from Verizon, will b... moreAlmost all modern Verizon phones include the GSM and HSPA+ bands used by ATT/TMO/GSM carriers, and there is some LTE band overlap as well (2/4/5).
- Anone
- kTN8
KMB877, 14 Oct 2016Not true. Other phones with a lot of CDMA+GSM & LTE North and American bands enabled from... moreThe Axon 7 and the Moto G4 lineup are GSM+CDMA, but the Nextbit Robin, DTEK50 (and DTEK60), ASUS ZenFone3 do not have CDMA.
- Indorena
- t@g@
hahah, 15 Oct 2016lol, sim free you cant phone . it wont work. stupid apples. hahahaLOL,, nice jokes by the way
- MaxSmarties
- 3k2U
Note7 owner, 14 Oct 2016These phones are incredibly difficult to find in stock anywhere. only the Jet Black variant, and some 32 Gb models.... most of the others are available everywhere
- Anonymous
- mh{5
Lilian, 14 Oct 2016Clearly a move to get those Note 7 customers.they wont go they have S7edge and most dont want the APPLE noose around their neck.
Android is an open system, lots of choice
- KMB877
- Y7c{
Kapil Patil, 14 Oct 2016Yes.
iPhones are the only phones on market which covers most the bands and are neutral to re... moreNot true.
Other phones with a lot of CDMA+GSM & LTE North and American bands enabled from the factory: ZTE Axon 7, Nextbit Robin, DTEK50 (and DTEK60), ASUS ZenFone3, several Motorolas, etc.
- KMB877
- Y7c{
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2016Does this mean that you can buy a sim free iphone and then take it outside the US and pop any ... moreYes my friend.
Look for a friend living into the state of New Hampshire (NH has no sales tax), get your iPhone, put your Vodafone SIM card and you are in business!
Don't forget - the North American power supply charger plug is different than most of the other countries.
- KMB877
- Y7c{
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2016 Very interesting device, complete with CDMA and GSM and all LTE frequencies, if it also suppo... moreNo miracle here. Example: any device using SD820, can work on CDMA (5 bands), GSM (4 bands) 3 + 3.5 G (5 bands) and LTE (over 20 bands).
The phone manufacturer must order the processor having whatever radio bands enabled. The factory must test individually each processor for each frequency enabled. This will increase the cost of the processor and the cost of the cellphone.
Also, cellphone manufacturer must pay 7% royalties (from MSRP price) to the processor manufacturer.
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To understand better: TCL is making Alcatel Idol 3 and DTEK50 phones.
Both, "inside" identical. Idol 3 (USA Version), has enabled only the LTE bands 4, 5, 7, 12 and 17. DTEK50 has about a dozen of LTE bands enabled. TLC will pay more for a processor installed into a DTEK than Idol.
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For Apple, the production cost for an iPhone is not an object...
- KMB877
- Y7c{
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2016If you pay for the device in full, they have to unlock it if you ask.Correct.
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On the other hand, if you have a CDMA/LTE phone (unlocked) from Verizon, will be useless on other networks. More, if you have an Verizon prepaid cellphone, they will refuse to accept it as postpaid!
And, you can't use the phone with other provider (because of 800 MHz CDMA and band 13 LTE phone capabilities).
- KMB877
- Y7c{
BlueJeans, 14 Oct 2016I don't know why carriers have a major role in the US. Why can't they simply sell unlocked dev... moreA few years ago, a lot of mobile communications whitin USA, Canada, Mexico and Caribbean were using TDMA, iDEN and AMPS networks. GSM started to spread first all over the Europe, later to countries all over the Earth.
Later, TDMA providers (like AT&T -> Cingular -> AT&T) switched to GSM.
Right now, USA still have right now 2 major carriers using CDMA networks, so again not GSM. No SIM cards. You need to have the cellphone set-it up by the provider. This means about 50% of the cellphones in service right now.
So, 50% of the cellphones (from Verizon or Sprint and their satellites) does not make any sense to be unlocked or not. Phones able to work on both CDMA and GSM networks are extremely new and relatively rare. Most, they don't have enabled the CDMA capabilities, because this will cost the manufacturer more $. Each band must be individually tested and more expensive royalties will be payed to the processor manufacturer...
Hope this helped.
- Kapil Patil
- rRUy
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2016Does this mean that you can buy a sim free iphone and then take it outside the US and pop any ... moreYes.
iPhones are the only phones on market which covers most the bands and are neutral to region or carriers, one model supports both CDMA and GSM.
Whereas when to consider any other brand, they will have multiple models of same phone, because one model doesn't seem to have required bands.
- marink
- QWEf
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2016Does this mean that you can buy a sim free iphone and then take it outside the US and pop any ... moreYes, also you can buy with sim card and just throw it away.
- RickyDingDong
- Eifm
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2016 Very interesting device, complete with CDMA and GSM and all LTE frequencies, if it also suppo... moreIt does support most of the global bands. The only one it may not support is some Japanese bands.
- RickyDingDong
- Eifm
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2016Does this mean that you can buy a sim free iphone and then take it outside the US and pop any ... moreYes, this version is the one to get, considering it supports most of the GSM and CDMA bands hence will work in the US and outside the US on most of the GSM and CDMA bands.
- Anonymous
- Nw}n
Does this mean that you can buy a sim free iphone and then take it outside the US and pop any sim card in and it will work??
- Anonymous
- PSvt
Very interesting device, complete with CDMA and GSM and all LTE frequencies, if it also supports TD LTE networks and chinese bands in addition to Euro/Asia bands its a miracle all in one device but i doubt it supports many of the non-US bands... Just a few essential ones so Americans can bring it on vacation abroad is my best guess.
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