A great post....one very interesting fact is if Samsung has been making batteries for other manufacturers of handsets then surely there has to be a recall of all these devices too.....if not then the issue was not with the battery
MrIDC, 17 Oct 2016Only 27 percent? We expect 80% increase performance. Its not good after all. It cant compete... moreThis is about 14nm vs 10nm. It has nothing to do with anybody's chipset. Next gen chipsets would have further improvements on top of that.
mixa, 17 Oct 2016It's not all good news though. The smaller the gaps become between transistors, the harder is... moreI do not agree. Less distance between transistor = less friction = more energy efficient. It will also reduce heating issue. The reason why recent mobile phones getting heated up is more powerful processor in compact size. If don't agree try updating iPhone 3gs latest software and tell me how fast is it.
Only 27 percent?
We expect 80% increase performance.
Its not good after all. It cant compete on apple iphone performance power
green, 17 Oct 2016the smaller the capacitor, the less heat it generates. You mean transistor?
sa11oum, 17 Oct 2016The Note7 fiasco is really hard to ignore and makes me (and I'm sure lots of others) uneasy ab... moreThen don't use a smartphone then. They've made many iPhone SoCs, and will be making the sd830 and already made the SD 820 and 821. They make most of the displays on the market too, and Samsung SDI is the biggest supplier of mobile batteries. They are also quite involved with storage and ram production, and maybe a few other things too.
It's not all good news though. The smaller the gaps become between transistors, the harder is to design components. Also there is the problem of heat generation, which we've been facing the last 2 years.
And on top of all, the performance per clock cycle didn't change much, if at all last few generations of any kind of cpu or gpu, they are mostly cramming more transistors, exploring the smaller area needed.
The Note7 fiasco is really hard to ignore and makes me (and I'm sure lots of others) uneasy about the whole situation. I just read this news and thought okay, but it's Samsung, can I really trust them?... What they need to do right now, is find out what happened with the Note7, why these incidents happen, and publish a full report... Just my opinion. Their brand image has never, ever been this bad and it's time to start answering questions.
There is already research that makes use of quantum tunneling to produce transistors 100x faster than today's.
kris, 17 Oct 2016nm=nanometer which is the size of the chips transistor. Smaller it is means it uses less energ... moreJust like to add one company's 10nm is not the same as another company's 10nm. It's basically a marketing term they count it differently. For example, there was an iphone chip where the one built on tsmc's 16nm process performed better than the one built on samsung's 14nm process.
I'm sorry I dont have your answers but, in the four years i've been using this website this is one of the most mature posts I have ever seen. everyone else just sounds like a blind know it all, to me.
yeah thats great, but i think Samsung is not first to build SoC based on 10nm, coz TSMC or whatever that was trying it before them for Apple SoC. And Intel has a trial production before this, so Samsung not in the leading on mobile tech, but they is on the way to lead. And one more, your product always overpriced LOL
Well, 5nm is the limit before quantum tunneling takes over. The end of silicon is nigh, folks.
Maybe graphene or a new material will hopefully save the day. That, or an advance in battery technology may allow more power hungry SoCs to compete as a stopgap.
Just an update for those who don't know:
- Samsung manufacturs SoC for Snapdragon, Apple and it's in-house Exynos.
- it is one of leaders in manufacturing and supplying of touch screens ( customers includes Apple, Xiaomi, one+)
- manufacturers and suppliers of memory chips for mobile devices.
- manufacturers of hard disks.
- manufacturers and suppliers of battery ( that is why Note7 issue is taken seriously, coz others may stop buying batteries from them)
- have also ventured into camera sensors
In short Samsung is major components supplier to most of mobile manufacturers.
Mobiles is just one of the divisions. But note 7 is taken Seriously because if cause of accident can be one or more of above components, then it will hit the other divisions ( mentioned above). That would be a huge loss. Hence they have willing taken hit of Note7 before it hits it's other businesses.
Anonymous, 17 Oct 2016I might sound dumb when I ask this but what is nm or 10nm if it has do with generations. Also,... moreafaik..nm is nanometre..its not the size of the chipset..but each microcomponent...now intel usually goes for a tick-tck..2 generations on a single size..some time ago we had components at 42nm etc..i believe that was considered a wonder at that time...intel uses one year to reduce the size and the next year to increase power efficiency...
as size comparison nm is 1 in a million of a millimeter...human har is about 0.1millimetre, blood cell about 8000nm, human dna spiral width 2.3nm...