kerginaldo, 25 Dec 2016Apple each time falling down. Where is the quality? who asked you to drop it then
WickedWilly13, 26 Dec 2016We are talking about both IOS and Mac OS or OSX. The point is Apple purposefully projects the ... morehuh? Look at your past comments, its about MacOS / OSX vs Windows 10 (specifically). Cause you said that Windows 10 is great, free ($119 Home edition) and good at security, vs MacOS (version?) which you get "virus"
Now you open up with iOS. Stop twisting facts and calling relevant.
1. You did not proof what you said about who has more vulnerabilities about MacOS/ OSX vs Win10
2. iOS didn't give you any virus yet or security issues. (So why you cited a iOS issue and pulling everything to that argument confuses me)
3. You did not provide any ADs given by Apple specifically showing them discriminating or hiding facts about their security.
And do you know that Macs can dual boot Windows 10 / MacOS if they choose to? If your argument is truly true about MacOS, we can as easily switch to Windows 10.
Cite and quote please.
As an Apple fan since 1985, I have noticed that there are two sides to Apple, one that I like, and one I dislike.
One is the 'dominant Apple', which it has been recently, and this Apple is the one that introduces the most incremental of improvements, of course further polishing products, but comfortable in their lead.
Now that Apple is coming under all sorts of pressure, my favourite Apple will emerge, the 'Apple under pressure' version, where they will have to innovate to again leapfrog their competition.
This is most likely going to happen with the iPhone 8. I am also hoping they will do something with Apple Watch Series 3 but we will have to see. They may surprise us with the iMac/Mac Pro but I am not holding my breath on that one.
Anonymous, 26 Dec 2016Those are iOS. Not MacOS. (Plus its not about security, but a man needing his research to be r... moreWe are talking about both IOS and Mac OS or OSX. The point is Apple purposefully projects the image it has few, if any security issues and try's to hide it (hence the ads), and when someone points it out with real practical examples (hence the quote). So both the examples I gave and you asked for are very relevant!
WickedWilly13, 26 Dec 2016Do you not remember the Apple ads that used to poke fun at windows security, trying to take th... moreThose are iOS. Not MacOS. (Plus its not about security, but a man needing his research to be recognised and praised)
Please google more and cite the correct claim.
As for AD, can you cite a quote, or post the url link that Apple is discriminating security issues about Windows 10. (Since the argument is between Win10 / MacOS)
Anonymous, 25 Dec 2016When did apple claim this?
Can you cite a quote?Do you not remember the Apple ads that used to poke fun at windows security, trying to take the high ground as if Macs did not have problems.
Apples Denials and attacks on Jonathan Zdziarski are also one case of many. I quote "I continue to love Apple products and the ingenuity behind them. There must be some fantastic developers at Apple with great minds, and IÂ’ve come to appreciate that. TimÂ’s even starting to grow on me, from what IÂ’ve seen in interviews. If Apple still wants nothing to do with me, I can accept this. But I do expect the largest company in the world to have the ethical gumption to at least acknowledge serious vulnerabilities and give due credit to all security researchers, whether you like them or not. Personally, I donÂ’t care whether or not Apple acknowledges meÂ… but this is already a big problem in the scientific community, and an issue that Apple should be setting a good example for, rather than aggravating. It is also doing a disservice to your consumers by sweeping serious vulnerabilities (that you have addressed) quietly under the rug."
Yes, once upon a time Apple was unrivaled. However competitors have learned from Apple. Nowadays Dell XPS, Lenovo Yoga 910, Asus Zenbook could easily take down MacBook in many ways. The competition begins just now.
Anonymous, 25 Dec 2016When did apple claim this?
Can you cite a quote?He just told you he
1) has never had virus issues with Windows (neither have I)
2) doesn't have to install an anti virus. (Neither do I)
Like MACOS, Windows has its own built in virus protection.
These flame wars are so fucking stupid. You use what you want. Let him use what he wants. Go get a life.
I use a real Pro laptop. Thinkpad P50 with Xeon processor and 64 GB RAM and 3K screen. Windows 10 becoming more stable now after initial problems.
I don't know why Apple call their devices PRO. It is only standard with some gimmicks, but for a PRO price. After Jobs Apple is becoming more and more a marketing company only. It's sad to say that.
Going back to Windows after 5 years of using Mac is not easy. Even iOS on an iPad is better than Windows.
Anonymous, 25 Dec 2016Not true. MacOS address security as well, there is no illusion. The reason of you getting "... moreI did not say OSX did not have any security built in, but Apple encourages the idea that its OS is secure. Many, if not most Apple users incorrectly believe this. While there may indeed be more viruses, malware etc on Windows, because it is by far more popular and widespread, if you are careful you can avoid them. Indeed OSX/Mac OS has more vulnerabilities than Windows.
WickedWilly13, 25 Dec 2016Actually no, Windows 10 has its own security features built-in and it is free and unobtrusive.... moreNot true. MacOS address security as well, there is no illusion.
The reason of you getting "virus" undetected can happen on any OS, but chances are higher on Windows 10, cause theres where the majority's at. (More profit, more damage)
Anonymous, 24 Dec 2016I suppose the first thing you did when you went back to windows was to install a good antiviru... moreActually no, Windows 10 has its own security features built-in and it is free and unobtrusive. It was one if the first things that impressed me. I liked the fact Microsoft recognises all operating systems have security problems and addressed it in their OS build. Apple likes to create the illusion its operating systems do not have security issues, but leaves its users vulnerable. The only virus I have seen on a computer or mobile device was on my Mac, when the security programme (I did have to install myself) caught one!
Unless one is driven by hype or brand hate, there's no reason with loving or hating Apple products. If the aforementioned product doesn't meet one's expectations, it's time to look elsewhere. If one needs power, there are notebooks running Xeon server chips; if it's all about gaming there are SLI and CF alternatives; for portability there are rather light x86 Windows tablets...
There are times when you can't be wrong on saying, "Because it's Apple".
Probably this is one of lots of those times.
[deleted post]I have to agree with this poster,I went over to Mac in 2014 due hating windows 7. But I just found Mac Os unfreindly as well.
After Windows 10 came out I went back,What I will say is I got half my money back on the Mac selling it some 2 years later.
There are 3 major operating systems in use, Windows,Mac Os and Linux. You would be stupid to believe that hackers would just target windows! That's like saying car thieves only target ford cars.
All thieves are opportunists and by not having Security on your Mac is giving them that opportunity!