Some guy from Greece, 21 Jan 2011"Maybe too much work for them cos of the additional work involved in changing the shell t... moreTrue. It is any companies agenda to make money. That is the number 1 reason why they exist. By offering continuous upgrades to the os, doesnt yield profit. It instead takes away time, effort and money in the sense that they have to dedicate people to go and mod the os to work on the older phones. They'd rather have you throw it away and buy a newer phone to have the latest version of the os. Much like the SE strategy. That is why owning your os and making your own phone to run that os, makes better sense. That is why the n9 would be a success. You want to individualise your phone, download the mod for the phone yourself. Nokia would offer it stock standard os. You do as you please with the phone. They own the os and thats a big plus for me. The fact that they working closely with a key manufacturer (intel) only means that the os has a competitive edge over others in the sense that the os can be perfectly matched and fine tuned so as to offer the user the best and most pleasurable user experience.
What is up with the huge screen border in the picture? I sure hope the released ones aren't like that because that is just UGLY. And enough with this Nokia vs Apple vs Symbian vs IOS vs Android or whatever. Use what ever best fit you. Competition is better for all of us consumers.
looking cool frm looks bt the features of this phone can't comment about that is this is another camera phone or anything new in this nokia n-9 lets se wht's the next surprise from nokia
[deleted post]it's true though most haven't used or don't even know WTF a smartphone is
and using just iphone and not other smartphone platforms makes them looks dumb
i've used all and except BadaOS and i just like how symbian runs
i even had the N900
which is an amazing and powerful device BUT........lack of computer integration
like how symbian is
[deleted post]you know wat is says about nokia? it says they're still number one. even the ones that left nokia, they are coming back to nokia because nokia is putting out good phones like the n900, n8, c7, (potentially) n9....
and dont try being smart with me... nokia is 40% market share, apple is 4%... wat does THAT say about nokia?
exactly... your pie hole doesn't seem to be as open now.
with intel, mozilla, amd, bmw, linux, qualcomm, gmc, etc all joining nokia to support meego, apple will be like dried dog turd stuck between the crevis of nokia's unused grass-cutting boot.
dont even think to compare nokia to apple. they are two companies with COMPLETELY different mind-sets, different strategies, and different goals.
Anonymous, 21 Jan 2011Maemo was for Linux-geeks and not userfriendly at all, but I hope MeeGo will be userfriendly. ... moreNokia didn`t abandon Maemo. What do you think is combined to make MeeGo? Maemo/Moblin/Linux!!!
N9, 21 Jan 2011My cellphone history - nokia 6681 > sony k750 > nokia n70 > nokia 6630 > Nokia 561... moremy history
siemens c45 --> siemens a50 --> nokia 3310 --> sony Z5 --> nokia 3510 --> nokia n70 --> nokia n80 --> nokia n82 --> nokia n86 --> nokia n97 mini --> samsung galaxy s --> htc desire hd
most favourite- nokia N8-x series
desire hd-best so far
One thing is for sure... !!!
This yr is gonna see pretty much awesome competition in smartphone segment.
Just take a look at the devices coming in 2011 -
From SE - Arc , play ,neo ,duo & some dual cores as SE confirmed recently & they even said that they have some interesting concept in mind for this yr.
From samsung the only mean machine would be galaxy s2 , nothing else.
From apple - the much anticipated iPhone 5.
From nokia - n9 (seems a great device) & even some dual core sets at the end of 2011
From HTC - qualcomm processors based dual core phones.
From LG - optimus 2x, optimus black & many other devices
From moto - atrix, bionic & some other phones.
From Blackberry - dual core smartphones.
I don't like samsung at all & i'm accepting that in front of everyone & the truth is that this yr samsung won't be able to sell even the half of galaxy smartphones it sold last yr.
The competition is so much hot this yr that samsung too will be lost in the crowd with it's only android flagship device for 2011 - galaxy s2.
Best of luck to every company except samsung.
Anonymous, 21 Jan 2011Too late Nokia. FAR too late. They have missed the bus with these devices. Sure, they have ... moreYou're right. Market has taken the missed (by Nokia) bus and left. Away. Far away. To Pluto.
Mac, 21 Jan 2011You're partially correct. The fragmentation is generally caused by the mods to the original os... more"Maybe too much work for them cos of the additional work involved in changing the shell too with the upgrade."
Work that won't pay off, that is. Why a company offer it's work for free? And no, they can't charge the upgrates cause digital content is so easy to be copied..
Someone said before that his SGS is so great cause it has flash 10.1, didn't mention though that it took Samsung 6 months to release Adroid 2.2 and give him his flash. Even today, 9 months after launch, American consumers haven't taken that official upgrate!
While Nokia will have an upgrate released by February, less than 5 months since launch!
It seems to me that upgrates isn't an Adroid's advantage. At all.
Too late Nokia. FAR too late.
They have missed the bus with these devices. Sure, they have some nice features, but stubbornly sticking to Symbian and Meego will ruin them.
Anonymous, 21 Jan 2011Newer products have better hardware so the "fragmentation" you talk about is only th... moreYou're partially correct. The fragmentation is generally caused by the mods to the original os. The 2.2 froyo looks different on different phones because manufacturers change it to be unique. 2.2 runs even on older phones. Older versions of windows pc's doesnt create fragmentation because of hardware changes, does it? They still run the same os stock standard. Change and mod the os, then people wouldnt even know what os they are running cos it looks different. All manufacturers do this i.e. Moto, sammy, htc, lg, se etc. They all have shells running on top of the android os. Defeats the purpose one may think? The hardware incapabilities play a miniscule part in this but that isnt the sole reason for fragmentation. 2.2 can run on a 600 mhz processor so older versions of android phones can run it but yes, the many phones running the different versions of the os does contribute to this but as stated above, they have the ability to do so but the manufacturers choose not to upgrade them. Maybe too much work for them cos of the additional work involved in changing the shell too with the upgrade. This creates the fragmentation. Now with 2.3 upgrade, maybe you can now bring in the factor on hardware incompatibility. Only now. Earlier versions of android had no limitations or special requirements with phones released and i believe majority if not all met the minimum requirements of 2.2. As stated, manufacturers created the fragmentation with the mods to the stock standard os being carried out. So now i may hate android because of my experience with say an lg phone because of their pathetic shell running on top of the stock os. I may hence assume all android phones are the same and may never go back to android because of that experience (if didnt know better that is) which would be rather pityfull.
Megalord, 21 Jan 2011Oh, if that makes you happy i can post garbage till 400 post.
Unfortunately, that wouldn't ... morebuddy, dont even think about comparing iphone sales to future sales of the n9. Apple is producing ONLY one phone, ONLY one OS, and provides product support for only ONE phone... nokia has 200 times the variety and for someone who may want an $800 nokia, but cna't afford it, has the option of going to $700, or a $600, or a $150 one...iphones are bought by fan boys who dont even admit to huge problems like the antenna problems. Nokia fans buy phones only if they're good. Look at the n97, nokia fans left the company cause they openly admit the phone wasn't to thier expectations. So ANY SALES nokia gets, are due to ACTUALLL good service, good quality, and good features for price. Majority of apple sales are school girls (who dont know sh|t all about phones and just want something pretty), or loyally blind and arrogant iphone fans.
funny thing is, i still respect the iphone, but would never praise it the way some of the fans do.
sorry boss, but the n9 is a big boys, bossman's phone. this isn't childs play.
Anonymous, 21 Jan 2011Newer products have better hardware so the "fragmentation" you talk about is only th... moretake for example.....samsung galaxy s....capable of 2.3 but most are still struck on 2.2 officialy....and few are even running 2.1 yet..!!!
Even the SE x10......but U see....nexus series get's frequent updates....problem isnt android....problem is the manufacturers.....who jst want to make money not makng costumers happy..!!
But if the OS controler and the manufacturer are same companies....u'l get all the updates,bug fixes n improvements faster and for a longer time...!!! Thus reduces fragmentation
E71,5800 n alot more devices still get FW updates :))
and also android phones have diffrent screen resolutions too....making more fragmentation for app developers..!!
chester, 21 Jan 2011& i quote"Meego and Adroid should join into new open source os",
ha ha ha.mee... morehahaha YESS chester! you're talking like a true Nokia FAN! nokia doesn't need ANY OS's help to be the best. They got there by themselves!
Android doesn't have the capability to handle the level of capability meego has built in. QT based, full HTML 5, java, open GL, full flash, python, and PROPER linux support.
ANDROID is NOT linux android fanboys. Android CAN NOT support linux apps. Get that through your heads.
lots of comments for the n9, even from nokia non-fans. it must be a popular smartphone already...=).
Anonymous, 21 Jan 2011Maemo was for Linux-geeks and not userfriendly at all, but I hope MeeGo will be userfriendly. ... more& i quote"Meego and Adroid should join into new open source os",
ha ha ha.meego will never join poor os adroid in a million years.that prayer was answered long back.
pul, 21 Jan 2011we have already seen what happens to a OS which can be given to every manufacturer......FRAGME... moreNewer products have better hardware so the "fragmentation" you talk about is only the fact that older phones do not have modern hardware enough to run the latest versions os android, just as todays Symbians will not be able to run all future versions of Symbian and N9 not be able to run all future versions of MeeGo, this is not the same thing as "fragmentation".