CEO Stephen Elop admits Nokia's poor track record, has a plan Comments
- AnonD-37
- q{6
AnonD-171, 10 Feb 2011it's not about fast recovery it's about the native OS they have been using and what fathered s... moreWould you buy a Nokia running WP7?
- AnonD-37
- q{6
AnonD-171, 10 Feb 2011it's not about fast recovery it's about the native OS they have been using and what fathered s... moreI got a bad feeling about this guy my friend. To me, he seems too much of an outsider and I would not be surprised if he is a Microsoft Trojan Horse. The way he spoke about Nokia's Symbian is like he's trash talking it. I also have a sinking feeling that he will adopt WP7.
- Marek
- n5Q
Nokia should use Android instead of symbian.
- AnonD-171
- q}m
AnonD-37, 09 Feb 2011Make an Android phone and I'll buy it in a heartbeat. If Nokia wants a fast recovery then Andr... moreit's not about fast recovery it's about the native OS they have been using and what fathered smartphone histrory
- AnonD-171
- q}m
Kavz, 09 Feb 2011Symbian is a good OS, what is missing is an improved, fast, reliable and eye catchy UI. Nokia ... morethey are LOL
big example is nokia bubbles
that's all written in Qt and see how smooth the animation is for basically EVERYthing
- Gamma
- 7qG
Stephen is refering to the OS delima when he is talking about ecosystem. And the plateform is the symbian. Sony and symsung ditched it for all its limitation. It supports nHD resolution only by default. Developers had lost interest in it. Nokia's main mistake was not planning for an android devision. If nokia can dish out some android and windows 7 devices at nokia's hardware quality and if they tie up with SPB mobile shell, they can do some dramatic catching up. Its better late than never.
- Vanpersie1019
- G1T
I always think that nokia is the best,but android system and apple devices got nokia in a bad situation. I really hope to see a nokia using android or a new platform,because symbian is very old to this new generation.
- simple user
- 0Bh
smells like new CEO will save his bonus (or will try to) by jumping to Atlantic ocean from the burning platform. Dragging whole company with him. I remember after similar move in Siemens - their mobile business was destroyed. Ericsson and Motorolla had hard time switching to new technologies. Now finally is Nokia turn and this time it will be dramatic. Although all predict WP7 will come to rescue there is nothing certain :-) (having that wp7 is quite new "ship" not tested against icebergs in the "North sea" :-)
- Anonymous
- NGf
AnonD-1190, 09 Feb 2011told you in one of my post earlier. I'm from indonesia :). Okay, while BADA OS run on minimum ... moreI disagree about Symbian being more user-friendly than Android. It took me a while to learn how to do different things with Symbian. I had to look up things on the internet to figure some things out. When configuring application settings, you have to configure some settings in the app and others in the application manager. For days, I was browsing the internet via my carrier instead of WiFi until I happened to stumble upon the settings to change it. Changing the default browser does not mean what you think it means. It only applies to email links and not links via other applications like Gravity. The various settings to change things are much harder to find in the many folders and levels.
I found Android to be much easier to use. I was spending more time doing things than figuring how to do things. Objects are located in a more flatter structure and are easier to find. If I want to do something I rarely or have never done before, it was easier to figure out on Android than on Symbian.
A classic example of how much more user friendly Android is than Symbian is this. Try to move a shortcut icon one space over in both UI's and tell me which is easier to do it on.
- GrainySnapshot
- PP7
If this is a genuine internal memo it is a very strange one. It identifies all the negatives for Nokia with some precision but barely manages a single positive. Many CEOs would take the view that such a memo must offer the Nokia workforce some hope, some reason to keep going. Otherwise there is a risk that the workforce which will just say "Yep, you're right, we're cactus, see ya!" Everyone has their own style and we will see how Stephen Elop's works for Nokia but if I were a hard working Nokia employee I would be thinking my boss is great at identifying where we went wrong but not much good at leading me out of our difficulties. The burning oil rig metaphor would not fill me with confidence: all Elop can offer is a plunge into an ice cold ocean and he does not sound like he is offering to hold my hand as I jump. Thanks but I will take the rescue line being dangled by the competitor's helicopter.
- AnonD-1196
- qDa
AnonD-1190, 09 Feb 2011told you in one of my post earlier. I'm from indonesia :). Okay, while BADA OS run on minimum ... moreIt's not just about simplicity, but also about functionality, refinement and performance as well. Symbian is not as stable, consistent, refined, and dependable as android and ios are. Symbian can at times be frustrating and disappointing to use. It was the iphone that made internet on a mobile phone actually work, and same goes with other useful features and apps, and then android followed suit. Symbian had its glory days, pre iphone and android.
- Anonymous
- qDa
AnonD-1190, 09 Feb 2011told you in one of my post earlier. I'm from indonesia :). Okay, while BADA OS run on minimum ... moreIt's not just about simplicity, but also about functionality, refinement and performance as well. Symbian is not as stable, consistent, refined, and dependable as android and ios are. Symbian can at times be frustrating and disappointing to use. It was the iphone that made internet on a mobile phone actually work, and same goes with other useful features and apps, and then android followed suit. Symbian had its glory days, pre iphone and android.
- Anonymous
- 0Ua
Nokia will choose, soon, between Win7 & Android. U will see.
- Anonymous
- 4Gx
This may be too little too late. And what ever decision Nokia makes needs to be implemented yesterday.
I was a Nokia/Symbian faithful for some time and hung in there swinging with the best of them until I couldn't take it anymore.
Nokia/Symbian has been selling the wrong aspects of a smartphone. Most customers now-a-days are more worried about the user experience and the apps and capabilities of the device. Yes Nokia phones do have lots of built in capabilities but they are hidden behind an antiquated user interface and quite frankly the apps are just not there.
I have since defected to Android and i have not looked back. Since moving over my Android phone has gained new capabilities through apps and OS development at break neck paces. Case in point there was the DC Auto Show here last week. I wanted a map of the exhibits so I search and what do you know, there was an app for the show. I could not dream of something like that happening with my Nokia. You may say that apps have nothing to do with the OS, but it is quite the contrary. If you build a platform that is easy to develop for and users like it, the app developers will come flocking...don't believe it? Ask Apple and Android. And tomorrow I will probably find some other new capability for my android...(smile).
Nokia needs to make some FAST moves and make them now. I don't think the adopting a new OS is a great idea but something very revolutionary is in order. They are loosing customers by the second in every segment of the market, and they will continue to do so if they don't "WOW" the world.
Fanboys...I feel sorry for you because you are praising a platform that is old in its newest form and it's High End devices can't hold a candle to my "cheap" HTC Aria which murders the Nokia 5800 it replaced. If you say that Symbian is better...please please please explain, because I don't believe you anymore.
- Kavz
- j8L
Symbian is a good OS, what is missing is an improved, fast, reliable and eye catchy UI. Nokia needs to invest more on UI improvements rather than creating new OS. Industry is already crowded with a lot of different platform. Symbian already build its name and reputation, however its slow and crappy UI leave it behind the competition. If nokia can create a new version of Symbian with an improved UI, or totally a brand new UI but still compatible with current Symbian Apps it can help gain back what they lost. They have all the resources, developer, and hardware to back up this OS.Im a nokia fan boy before, but i switch to android and iOS (for my ipod touch) because its UI is faster and more eye catchy than symbian. even if nokia have an atractive hardware i wont get one if it is still being run by current Symbian OS.
- AnonD-37
- q{6
Make an Android phone and I'll buy it in a heartbeat. If Nokia wants a fast recovery then Android is the way to go.
- AnonD-146
- spW
waw .. this guy gave me goos bumps
- pH1
- xKv
"Apple [...] redefining the smartphone ..."
--> good luck to nokia now. apple didnt do anything but market themselves well. there was no innovation or revolution caused by apple (sorry apple fanboys, this is the truth). no feature was new when iphone was introduced with the exception of multitouch (which they did not invent either). if the new ceo honestly thinks that apple did create something extraordinary then he does not know much about phones.
nokia had many innovations. for example nokia made the first phone with an accelerometer: nokia 5500. but many ppl still dont know this (including gsmarena). nokia had an online store (accessible from the phone) where u cud buy apps before apple made phones. however, i have never seen an advertisement for nokia. if they have a marketing division, they shud be fired immediately. after the nokia n95, all their good ideas came to an end. the n95 was the most advanced phone of its time. but look at the phones nokia now sells. none of them use a 1ghz cpu, only 1 phone has 800x480 resolution (n900) the rest only go up to 360x640 (even on screens as big as 4" like e7) while most r 320 x 240, they have very good cameras on some phones but they dont record video very good (qcif resolution at 15fps if qcif is possible, usually its vga only, wvga at 25fps only on n900, the competition offers 720p at 30fps and 1080p is coming soon at 24fps)... what happened? they used to have the best hardware. they seem to be focusing mostly on the low end phones and they already have enuf options. those ppl will not care which phone they get as long as its cheap makes calls and sends msgs. spending time designing anymore phones for the low end will be time wasted.
it might have looked like a good investment at the time for nokia when they bought symbian, but they shud give it up before they lose more market share and then switch to a better os. symbian is not good to begin with and on a touchscreen its just as bad. instead of taking several months to adapt an outdated software to accept touchscreen support, they should have gone with an alternative os altogether which was developed from the ground up with touchscreens in mind.
i am not a nokia fanboy and i doubt i will be after my poor experience with many of their phones. in my opinion the best phone manufacturers are htc (good hardware/build quality, ui), moto (great comeback after pathetic performance, some phones have great hardware like atrix), se (good design, ui), and maybe lg (because of the optimus 2x, 3d, and black they wud have great hardware. maybe these will be disappointing tho so im not sure yet)
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- AnonD-171
- q}m
AnonD-123, 09 Feb 2011While Nokia is still working on these supposed improvements, Android and iOS already has a goo... moreQt man Qt
trust me on this some one can write a UI update for symbian might take a month or a few weeks but Qt
will fix nokia's problem the thing is how fast and how efficient will the new UI
nokia bubbles is experimental and already perfect for us symbian users as a lockscreen so....
nokia should have that as the new screen lock for symbian and then make the UI
- Anonymous
- nEw
AnonD-171, 09 Feb 2011well nokia is working on the new UI for symbian and will be applied very shorty as soon as 2.1... moreHope they get it right. It's nice to have some healthy competitions, coz at this moment Apple and Google are running away with it. Was a Nokia user for very long time but now am on Android coz of the N97 fiasco.
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