Anonymous, 08 Feb 2017No, oldman. Keep dreaming.. Living in denial. Its obviously for smartphone.
AnonD-640375, 09 Feb 2017I wouldnt say the human eye is one of the best id say its more closer to in the middle to abou... moreHaha... thanks for being politically and scientifically correct. The context here is on sensor for mobile photography. You are damn right when you says human's eyesight is bordering worst in the animal kingdom, but would there ever be any mantis shrimp to take a photo with a smartphone and complaint about noise and dynamic range?
Human judge how good a sensor is by its end results, the image captured, benchmark against what we saw as in WYSIWYG. Just my 2cents.
Anonymous, 08 Feb 2017No, oldman. Keep dreaming.. you.. long time boy. How are you?
AnonD-642877, 08 Feb 2017Seems like there's a DSLR vs. mobilephone camera going on. The basis of a sensor design ain't ... moreI wouldnt say the human eye is one of the best id say its more closer to in the middle to about the best of the worst eyes
Stan, 08 Feb 2017I would have gone for 808, if it wasnt so old. The best smartphone camera of 2016 was in goo... moreYeah, I would like to have 808 with LG V20 camera interface- a perfect combo. 808 is not only a camera phone- for a Nokia fan like me is also a rare collectible- the last Symbian device. Only some of 250000 devices were sold.
tonymancs, 08 Feb 2017I have Nokia 808 and Canon 1100D + EF 40mm f/2.8, Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 VC and kit 18-55. 808 ... moreI would have gone for 808, if it wasnt so old.
The best smartphone camera of 2016 was in google pixel, and the best app is in LG V20.
I'm actively using Camera FV-5, because it is as close as i can get to full manual operation.
tonymancs, 08 Feb 2017I have Nokia 808 and Canon 1100D + EF 40mm f/2.8, Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 VC and kit 18-55. 808 ... moreYeah whatever..at the end of the day what you see through the lens camera or mobile is the same. End of story
Anonymous, 08 Feb 2017No. You are wrong. The original source have the title "Sony Develops the Industry's First*1 3-... moreThanks to remind me refer to main source from the Sony site and you are right, Sony also developing 3 layer sensor for their mobile.
AnonD-404798, 07 Feb 2017you are wrong , current standard supports up to 2 TB , only reason why we don't have higher ca... moreI didn't know that "current standard supports up to 2 TB", but I don't know it would affect battery life, considering 8x capacity; how muuuch it will cost, considering the fact that we talk about a high speed, high efficiency ssd with 2TB, not a HDD; and if they can do it in reality.
1000fps is useless unles you are in very high lighting or the sensor is superb
Seems like there's a DSLR vs. mobilephone camera going on. The basis of a sensor design ain't so much about trying to defeat the other 'segment' of market, in this case, Sony make both DSLR and mobilephone (although they are now different entity after selling it off). Ultimately, this new sensor improvement is to came as close to one of the best sensor in the world; human eyes. DSLR used to be the only solution for better photo image quality, before the advent of mobile phone camera technology. Thanks to better material and manufacturing technique, cost of DSLR are more affordable, but the same occurs to smartphone as well. You are more likely to have a pocket-able, communication device that can take 'decent' photo than hogging around a weather-shielded DSLR that can do ISO 12800 with minimal to no discernible noise speck on the photo. There are more laymen than professional photographers (or wannabe, or poser) in the world.
Looking at the technology in used, adding an extra DRAM layer for a quicker buffer/cache, it certainly brilliant BUT it also reminds me of Sony's RX100 Mark IV and Mark V. Both uses Sony 1" EXMOR BSI but Mark V is capable doing 4K. The main caveats are the HEAT generated by the sensor itself that any 4K videos shot more than 5 minutes will render the camera shutdown. The pocket-able form factor is bad for ventilation. In fact, this sensor is power hungry that the battery of Mark V is just 200 photos in comparison to Mark IV of a slightly better at 220 photos (just Google it).
That being said, the tech still got a lot of improvement to do before it could make it to our smartphone. Just like a LeMans or F1 race, all the fancy out-of-this-world technology will be tested out on using the DSLR/FF before they are fine tuned and make it more accessible by the general public with a smartphone.
By the way, I am just a photography enthusiast, not a pro (never was). I am planning to sold my DSLR in exchange for something smaller, say an RX100, because of its size and comparable (maybe better) than a big-burly DSLR for travel and street photography. A good phone cam helps when you wanted to share it faster using social media and instant messaging; the DSLR workflow to a non-pro like me is too taxing and the 'hoo-hah' of anticipating the end product might have died-down before I got the photobook printed.
Mine you, if you use smartphone, your photo will look like shit in a large photobook.
That's why neither DSLR or smartphone camera can outlived each other. They COMPLEMENT each other.
It's always welcome to see new and useful technology such as this. Now I wish Sony would incorporate something similar in their Xperia line-up since many (GSMA included) have shown how Sony fares when it comes to the camera department.
When it comes to hardware Sony is up there among the best, but something or the other in software optimization always pulls them down.
AnonD-538833, 07 Feb 2017Sony should use this sensor for their upcoming 4k phones. Sony phones desperately need a bette... moredo you really think that sony can't make a proper software for it's hardware ? as you said their front cam is a class leading, my guess is they don't want to !
Stan, 08 Feb 2017Sure, that's a very good point, but it's still software processing. Visually software processi... moreI have Nokia 808 and Canon 1100D + EF 40mm f/2.8, Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 VC and kit 18-55. 808 can easily beat entry-level 1100D with kit lens but just mount 40mm f/2.8 and even that mighty 808 is nowhere close to such level of quality. Even the best smartphone cam will never come close to entry-level dSLR. Physic is physic. Even the best post-processing software can't mimmick CPL filter effect, let alone DoF (Portrait mode on iPhone 7 only work with tele lens cam with bad aperture and often blur hair and edges)
Trenton , 08 Feb 2017Yeah please explain to me why phone manufacturers are working tirelessly to include newer and ... moreThe price for DSLRs has actually gone up. Demand is reduced because people like you have smartphones now, which are good enough for what you take pictures of. And technology? don't forget that point i made about noise performance. Sony owns 50% of the sensor market. They make large sensors for Nikon and themselves, as well as supplying almost everyone with small sensors. Any new tech first appears in DSLRs or mirrorless cameras(transition trend), and then trickles down to their small sensor production lines.