Anonymous, 27 Feb 2017Still cannot beat nokia 808 pureview 41mpI somewhat agree to this. I keep on changing camera phones. I have used Mi 5, Samsung S6 n S7, G5, 1+3, X-Z5 even. None of them is close to 808.
How is that possible? How can a 5 years old device still has an upper hand in quality?
People now-a-days compare phones by contrast/saturation/sharpness on device screen. Screens are improving as well, so everything on device looks good.
I am a pixel peeper.
I actually compare 34/38 MP resolution to cameras with 16+ MegaPixels.
And I compare 8 MP PureView images with the recent 12 MP Monsters like S7 and iPhone 7.
Now-a-days, camera phones have started using bigger sensor. Thats right, but it comes to 'pixel-size' where all the difference is made (same thing, bigger sensor means bigger pixels, but a different perspective). S7 and 808 have same pixel size i.e 1.4µm. iPhone 7 has a smaller pixel size somewher ~ 1.2µm. OnePlus 3 has even smaller pixel size of 1.12µm. Smaller the Pixel, smaller light it can retain. To compensate, newer mobiles use BSI sensor with wider apperture lens modules to allow more light. However, this results in higher crosstalk and pixel bleeding, which eliminates fine details.
In PureView Mode, the pixel size of 808 changes vastly. It has 3.1µm large pixel in 8MP(4:3/16:9), 4µm large pixel in 5MP(4:3/16:9), 5µm large pixel in 3MP(4:3) and 5.8µm large pixel in 2MP(16:9)
According to Nyqvist Theorem, you really need oversampling for good results.
Now when you zoom, in PureView mode, oversampling decreases and the pixel size changes from 3.1µm, 4µm, 5µm and 5.8µm to 1.4µm, i.e the real pixel size, which is actually lossless. Oppo is providing 2x zoom, with interpolation, which in real life can 'never' be reffered to as lossless.
808 do fails in certain things like low-light photography and videography due to lack of OIS and a smaller (by today's standards) f/2.4 aperture. Also lacks 4K. But I don't think 4K was a major standard back then (Galaxy S3 or iPhone 5 were limited to 1080p too).
Apart from this, 808 is one of the rarest phones that offer very wide dynamic range, resulting in no need of HDR in daylight. On the downside, it has no HDR functionality, but offers bracketing for PROs.
BigMaMa, 28 Feb 2017Can you Guess were it was invented? Israel (Core Photonic) ;-)prove it.
Anonymous, 27 Feb 2017Still cannot beat nokia 808 pureview 41mpwhat is the use of that 41MP camera if the phones ppi is super low? of come on that 184 ppi? hahahahaha..
I Think OPPO is taking over...with the new Tech,,cant wait to be amazed
Anonymous, 27 Feb 2017Still cannot beat nokia 808 pureview 41mpboooo!!! sony.
The results look might impressive! Kudos to you, Oppo! BTW does this tech offer smooth zooming from 1x to 5x in video?
R31ya, 28 Feb 2017It's Called iZoom and its brand new innovation that first introduced by iPhone 7SSHaha, I would see them pull something like that.
JordanBaby, 27 Feb 2017See them in 2018!id be surprised if company didn't 'snap' this up straight away, would appeal to a lot of people
dladz, 27 Feb 2017Wonder if apple will be stealing this. It's Called iZoom and its brand new innovation that first introduced by iPhone 7SS
Finally something practically usable new tech in smartphone cams ! Hopes are high
Look for Core Photonics, the Israeli company who developed the technology.
consumersmartphone, 28 Feb 2017Yeah you right! Apple dont show off their prototype because they dont have any! When other bus... moreOf course Apple have prototypes, but they're not really a company who innovates components. If in future they decide to create a smartphone with custom spec, then that's arguably something else. In any case, oppo should be applauded for coming up with something so solid. I hope we see its implementation in smartphones in the near future.
derunningman, 28 Feb 2017Praise the old laggy cameraphone which even got no OIS, even super slow shutter speedYou have no idea on what the 808 can do in photography for a mobile do you?
Anyway back to the oppo all i can see is things going wrong for some reason. It just dosent feel right to me but id like to see this bad boy in real life senarios before i make a statement.
consumersmartphone, 28 Feb 2017Yeah you right! Apple dont show off their prototype because they dont have any! When other bus... morelol, you're funny. Apple has dozens if not hundreds of CNC lathes, 3D printers, and other technologies that let them make thousands of prototypes. But, like I said, they just don't show off their prototypes like other companies, which gives people like you the impression that they're not working on anything.
Brad Fortin, 28 Feb 2017Apple's applied for multiple patents on things like this over the last few years. The differen... moreYeah you right! Apple dont show off their prototype because they dont have any! When other busy with innovating, Apple busy with changing color of iPhonse and put "s" behind the number/series, rise the price, sell it again and it work well. For me that innovation! Who care new techno if it doesnt sell well like iPhone, right buddy?