These people who are commenting here I assume are technology followers/ enthusiast or even have careers within technology - So it really surprises me how can one person (some knowledge of technology ) can say something is enough???? When all you have to do is warp back..... a year ago, 2 years ago, 5 years ago, decade ago, .......ANd be able to see to see the progression that whats enough AT ONE TIME, will not be enough for future.????
I dont get you and the arguments...... Next quarter apple or samsung has released some advancement.....in whatever area in technology,,, and you just changed your mind whats enough ????
SIlly technology people. Nothings ever enough! thats how technology sells OMG these people
4gb skinned Huawei runs faster than 6gb empty stockish android of One Plus.
At present 6gb might be important for someone who can't afford a computer and posts on Instagram screenshots of his antutu benchmarks. Besides that with current apps and UI android offers, it gives no performance advantage.
Of course 2 years from now tech develops in multitude of ways and apps might require more ram but that's not what Huawei's Richard Yu was referring too. 2 years from now every aspect of the phone CPU GPU battery camera will develop and your 8gb phone will be crap regardless.
AnonD-456829, 06 Mar 20174 GB is more than enough"640K ought to be enough for anybody."
Things like "given amount of RAM is enough" would always be silly. Nothing is ever enough, people just find more advanced uses...
Hofmann, 06 Mar 20174 GB is enough RAM, but if other OEMs are going in the future with 6-8 GB than you have to rea... moreIt does not sound ridiculous. For many their phone is their main computer. They're basically pocketable computers. It's not ridiculous to have as much RAM as possible in your main computer ... especially since Android makes such excellent use of it (look the post above).
ithehappy, 06 Mar 2017Android is the most unoptimised ecosystem there is, so there is need for more RAM, at least to... moreIt's not lack of optimization. It's actually part of Android's optimization. The more RAM you have the more it's going to use. RAM is a resource and if it is not to be used it's actually useless.
The philosophy of android (and most linux systems) is that since RAM is "always on" better fill it with as much stuff as possible.
So you'll see your 6GB phone nearly filled even if you did few things and you'd wonder, why come it became filled. Then you'd see an 8GB phone doing the same...
The reason is simple. Android puts app cache there, android puts background apps there, so eventually both the /cache and /data partition little-by-little are getting uploaded on RAM. Use your phone far enough and most of your RAM is going to be used making the loading of anything really much smoother. That's one of the key optimizations of Android, it's smart, and it's one of the best features of Android.
People often misunderstand the point of RAM on android and linux systems. It's not to be used by foreground app alone, it's always used and from as many systems as possible ... else it's like letting a great resource going to waste...
4 GB is enough RAM, but if other OEMs are going in the future with 6-8 GB than you have to react. It's a matter of business, you have to stay in pair with other companies, although it sounds ridiculous to have a phone with 8 GB of RAM, or even 6 GB.
AnonD-456829, 06 Mar 20174 GB is more than enoughUnfortunately regurgitating the same statements blindly makes them no less true or false. It just makes you look rather stupid given what many have said here repeatedly.
AnonD-632062, 06 Mar 2017I thought you were happy with 4GB RAM, especially if it was of the LPDDR4X type, like in the S8?Yes, but the one in P10 is not that type. They use regular lpddr4 ram. Disappointing isnt it.
Android is the most unoptimised ecosystem there is, so there is need for more RAM, at least to keep the apps in memory, otherwise 3/4 GB should be more than enough for daily tasks.
Until I can play RAM-intensive games like The Trail smooth on my flagship device, 4 gigs of RAM is never enough
Anonymous, 06 Mar 2017Exactly. For 99% of people 6 GB is useless. For 1 % , 32 GB is even better than 6 GB.Have you ever heard of RAM caching?
Yeah, you had your percentages wrong. Whether people know it or not 99% of the times *will* use the extra RAM.
My OnePlus 3T never reloads an app, even if I opened it last , 3 days ago...
The whole idea that RAM can (even in principle) go unused on a Linux Based system is laughable. Thankfully the OS is smarter than most people so you *will* get smart use of it no matter what.
Running on a ramdisk is the smoothest thing ever. Keep your reloading mess of a phone.
Finally android are getting the smoothness of IOS and people are complaining not knowing why/how they get it in the first place... I don't know whether I should laugh or cry...
Yes it is. With the ridiculous hybrid slots, the internal memory would be much more important. As a dual sim user with 50GB+ of music, my choice is very limited. Unless i pay tons of money for a flagship with 128GB or more. But then again, with the ridiculous non-removable batteries i won't pay so much money for a phone with an expiration date. And i don't want to pay much more for more (overprised) internal memory when i already have an SD card.
Anonymous, 06 Mar 2017Clever engineering, optimization and synchronization of ALL the components such as the OS, mot... moreFair comment but that does not get around the fact that within a given whole package 6GB will be better than 4GB. If everything else is equal it will almost certainly be of benefit. Given the price difference is minimal it should be a no brainer. It is a testmament to the integrities of the phone companies they can say otherwise and then to add insult to imjury actually sell devices with 6GB of RAM at the same time. So let'sthink about that the other way around. Are Huawei now telling us they knowingly charged us extra for something that we did not need that would degrade performance? The words too much do seem to imply that!
"and the 4GB of RAM with 128GB of storage is a better combo than 6GB/64GB for most daily use scenarios".
This! Finally someone with a brain spoke up
Surficial, 06 Mar 2017I'm not sure it is useful unless people have like 100 browser tabs open at once. Only things t... moreEven multiple heavy games won't use that much RAM. Maybe some games combined with loads of open tabs in browser.
Speaking from experience, I have OnePlus 3 and never got even close to filling 6GB of RAM, even when intentionally trying to do it. (before someone points it out, I did tweak build.prop to make sure apps don't get killed in background)
Clever engineering, optimization and synchronization of ALL the components such as the OS, motherboard, SoC, RAM,ROM, apps is what really makes the difference in terms of device performance and user experience.
Talking about the size of the RAM in a given device in isolation of other drivers is neither here nor there. It's always a PACKAGE.
Don't worry Huawei, other Chinese companies will put 8GB of LPDDR2 RAM at the same price as 4GB LPDDR4.
Those 2 extra gb are what 5$ more? The 5$ that huawei will lose? Besides yes 6 gb sounds better.. so do your jobs