Anonymous, 11 Mar 2017830 and 860 give 20Flops per cycle (I dislike Flops, but I'm OK if compared on same gpu manufa... moreBut the inside GPU both 830 and 860 are made on 28nm unfortunately, regardles of the Manufactured node of CPU/soc. CPU and GPU are made separately. So comparsion is correct.
By the way if we compare Samsung J7 2016 (Exynos 830MP2) vs Meizu M3 (m6750 860MP2) , because both phones use same 720 resulution and thats is fair we can see again pretty close numbers in gfx bench.
AceShot, 11 Mar 2017Actually Mali 830MP2 in Exynos Soc is on par with Mali 860 MP2 in 6750 mediateck soc. It's hig... more830 and 860 give 20Flops per cycle (I dislike Flops, but I'm OK if compared on same gpu manufacturers...It's crap when comparing Adreno to PowerVr or Mali for exemple)
830 is limited to mp4 and 860 to mp16...On mp2, 860 is useless...
That's the part we are agree on.
But 6750 is an entry level in 28nm...
Exynos 7870 is mid-range in 14nm...Mediatek competitor is P20
Qwerty2017, 11 Mar 2017Nope, the reason why Samsung had Snapdragon variant is because there are LOTS OF PEOPLE (WESTE... moreActually Mali 830MP2 in Exynos Soc is on par with Mali 860 MP2 in 6750 mediateck soc. It's higher clocked with more GFLOPS proof http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/
AnonD-234645, 11 Mar 2017I know. But a decent GPU from Mediatek is what I was suggesting. ^^;They do....
Gpu on X30 will be 2.4 time more powerfull than X20.
PowerVR cores are bigger than Mali : 1 powervr=2 Mali
It brings probably GPU 20% over Apple A9...(4 cores 800Mhz vs 6 cores 450Mhz)
And over 820. As Mediatek main goal on X30 is stability, GPU in real games will probably be even greater!
dudecool, 11 Mar 2017I dont understand how they beating Intel in the nanometer race? Intel are struggling to bring ... moreNot all 14nm processes are the same.
The phrase "xx nm node" means that the smallest spacing between repeated features on a chip along one direction is xx nm. It does not actually mean that transistors are now xx nm by xx nm.
Samsung and TSMC may well get out a 7nm process that is less advanced than Intel's 10nm. The fact that all of these processes are FinFET is far more important than the nm.
AnonD-314089, 11 Mar 2017In what you're saying makes sense (about the low end device), but remembering samsung is busin... moreMediaTek is fabless, that is why the article talks about them working with TSMC.
TSMC will manufacture the chip designed by MediaTek.
I dont understand how they beating Intel in the nanometer race? Intel are struggling to bring out 10nm chips, and still have 14nm out there at the moment, phone chip manufacturers seem to be doing it with not much problem
AnonD-270570, 11 Mar 2017Snapdragon 835 is built on 10nm process while A10 is still 16nm, I see how gsmarena and other ... moreHaha. Yes agree 100.I've woken from the dream many years ago and started using android. Apple users must wakeup now or they will miss the train
AnonD-237381, 11 Mar 2017According to your logic, every manufacturer that uses MTK SoC's, use them because other chips ... moreIn what you're saying makes sense (about the low end device), but remembering samsung is business, she can use a mtk on her own smartphone and sell Exynos to other companies. But currently only two companies make chips at 10 nm = Samsung with Exynos 8895 and Snapdragon 835 (yes, the SD is manufactured by Samsung. The other company is MediAtek.
Qwerty2017, 11 Mar 2017Nope, Exynos SoC isn't EXCLUSIVE at all. It is the same as Mediatek, Qualcomm, NVidia, and Int... moreExynos is still exclusive in the sense they are stating it. I don't know if you weren't understanding in how they meant it.
They just meant that samsung develops and manufactures it on their own.
consumersmartphone, 11 Mar 2017nO PROBLEM, as long as that magical fruit still on back, no need to worry, will be fine! Just ... moredid just that actually. a 10 minutes 4k vid. it was a testing video so I removed it. XD (gahd it takes 4 GB of storage. o_O)
AnonD-270570, 11 Mar 2017Snapdragon 835 is built on 10nm process while A10 is still 16nm, I see how gsmarena and other ... morebeing an owner of a Xiaomi mi 5 (sd820) and an iPhone 7 (A10) I've tested exactly that. True. I've connected a thermosensors and indeed the iPhone 7 reaches about 46°C while Xiaomi just 39.8°C but testing apps launch and such show that the 7 kills xiaomi on mostly everything. EXCEPT multicore preformance.
Qwerty2017, 11 Mar 2017Nope, the reason why Samsung had Snapdragon variant is because there are LOTS OF PEOPLE (WESTE... morepeople prefer Qualcomm chips, because they have decent performance, battery life and most of all because most unofficial ROM's are for Qualcomm chip sets. that makes it easier to keep your phone updated without relying on manufacturer. it also means you can remove all forms of bloatware / spyware / adware from your phone.
Yeah this mediatek stagnating that old x30 supposed to be out ages ago an x20 or x25 has who two smartphones brands in the world?
AnonD-270570, 11 Mar 2017Snapdragon 835 is built on 10nm process while A10 is still 16nm, I see how gsmarena and other ... morenO PROBLEM, as long as that magical fruit still on back, no need to worry, will be fine! Just keep buying! I know you never upload 10 minutes high res video on phone lol
AnonD-270570, 11 Mar 2017Snapdragon 835 is built on 10nm process while A10 is still 16nm, I see how gsmarena and other ... moreExactly. But most reviewers or consumers dont realise that. I use s6edge+ to shoot videos cuz better audio n video then iphone. Then i use imovie to edit those videos cuz best video editor. and sync it to iphone. And when i upload the videos to youtube it gets hot as hell. Iphone does open apps faster. But thats whr the good part ends. Now when i wanna go thru a lot of articles. I visit the main website n long oress n open various tabs. Upto 25-30 tabs at once. Cuz i dont like going back n again clicking on a link. I orefer that page is already loaded. I can open 35 tabs on chrome on android without any slowing down. But on iphone or ipad when i cross 10-12 the operation becomes slow. Thrs lag while switching tabs n is very annoying. N one more place whr the iphone really sucks is battery life. I rely dont know how gsmarena manages to show a decent score. But iphone normal version has the worst battery life. My brightness is always lowest setting. Only the plus models have decent battery life. I used to buy iphones only cuz of the nice build. Now luckily thr are many androids that match n even surpass it in build and feel. So i can finally break free from ios.
AzureLord, 10 Mar 2017It's just a snapdragon 821 on steroids bruh. both chipsets tick at 2.35 GHz. and use a dual cl... moreSnapdragon 835 is built on 10nm process while A10 is still 16nm, I see how gsmarena and other sites called it the fastest processor but A10 is a failed chip which can't handle any multi core operation. Tho they call it quad core its actually dual core as only two processors are available for benchmarks and other tasks, it's not the same big little architecture as it can show you all four cores or even 8 cores in benchmarks. Ever tried heavy operations like video uploading or editing on an iPhone. Try uploading a 10 min video on drive from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S6 edge which is from 2015 and you'll see the difference. Iphone turns hot like hell and almost start to sweat in uploading a 10 min video to drive. I'm sure an A10 chip can never be used to operate a phone with hardware equivalent to Galaxy S7/Note 7.
Apple is fast as it is optimised? Is it just optimised to open an app some 0.0005s faster compared to other phones?