IBM tech 4nm already there but too costly
If media tk will show good pricing for the 7nm they will eat the market wish them best
AnonD-39937, 10 Mar 2017It's a lot cheaper and easier to put 12 cores designed fully by ARM for some rights money (don... more"A10 Fusion SOC(4W TDP) has the same performance as a last generation 15W Intel core i5."
How does one compare the performance of a chipsets when the former are used in smartphone while the latter are used in laptops? Your point makes no sense at all.
Comparing a fully fledged desktop processor and a mobile processor is like comparing a motorcycle engine with a car engine. Even tho both of these particular engines can make both of the vehicles perform similarly, we all know which one is the more powerful of them - the car engine.
What's the point of having 12 cores if you can't efficiently use 4 or 8 logical processors? Android should be ready for them before we jump forward.
If they can achieve this soon it'll be great! I'm all for innovation.
BTW I do wish they focus on per-core performance and efficiency rather than going after a dodeca-core setup.
AnonD-39937, 10 Mar 2017I doubt anyone will match the Adreno GPU from Snapdragon 835(except a mammoth Tegra SOCs) , ma... moreExcept where the mali g71 may indeed do the job. However it seems yours purposefully doubted that in denial rather than forgot.
Like the old times when too many player in the pc segment. Too many gpu player... Too many cpu player... But finaly only 2 player in the field. Cpu field only intel and amd, gpu battle only nvidia and amd. Let we see who are the real big player on the final arm stage ???
sadchips, 10 Mar 2017its sad when all these other companies creating 8 core, 10 core, 12 core chip-sets still lags ... moreIt's a lot cheaper and easier to put 12 cores designed fully by ARM for some rights money (don't know the process exactly) , than designing from the ground up real custom cores like Apple is doing for ages. Apple is getting closer to putting its cores in laptops like Macbook Air because the A10 Fusion SOC(4W TDP) has the same performance as a last generation 15W Intel core i5.
Anonymous, 10 Mar 2017This is the transistor size. Die Size is something completely different. The Apple A10 is so s... moreDie size is very important, it can deliver things faster, higher efficiency, lower energy lost.
The fact that intel 14nm processor can be much faster is due to the numbers of transistors packed in. In fact, the intel 14nm processor is much bigger than any smartphone processor even compared to snapdragon 800 28nm die cast!
sadchips, 10 Mar 2017its sad when all these other companies creating 8 core, 10 core, 12 core chip-sets still lags ... moreTrue. All this talk about higher clock speeds and more cores and more RAM, only to get steamrolled by a dual-core processor from apple with just 2GB of RAM. Optimization is the key.
leaf, 10 Mar 2017I would be impressed if we see 7nm chips on consumer devices before 2019.https://www.google.ro/amp/appleinsider.com/articles/17/01/03/tmsc-on-track-for-volume-production-of-7nm-chips-for-iphone-ipad-in-2018/amp/
AnonD-234645, 10 Mar 2017I agree with you. A decent 14 cores Mali-G71 can do the jobJUUUUST fine. ^.^Samsung never beat Snapdragon in terms of graphics with their stock ARM, every time they get about 10% slower, this year it will be the same, 10% faster CPU 10% slower GPU.
I would be impressed if we see 7nm chips on consumer devices before 2019.
AnonD-482637, 10 Mar 2017Wooah, amazing, mobile chipset changes die size every year. Meanwhile intel still stuck at 14nmThis is the transistor size. Die Size is something completely different. The Apple A10 is so strong because of its high die size. I recommend watching techaltar on youtube