-NEOPHYTE-, 25 May 2017I seriously don't understand what is going on anymore. I'll go through the WHOLE situation:
'... moreyou've yet failed again
oneplus 5 now pops the geekbench scores for both GB3 and GB4
hah! Good job nokia! Now announce your beast and leave samsung eat your dust.
AnonD-671790, 24 May 2017I'm sorry, but I do have to agree.
You're not answering matias98's answer properly.I seriously don't understand what is going on anymore. I'll go through the WHOLE situation:
'Anonymous' asks: "Which one has higher benchmark score ? Oneplus 5 vs Nokia 9"
matias98 replies: "OnePlus 5" ~ That is ALL he/she put, that was IT.
I, '-NEOPHYTE-' reply to 'matias98': "Wrong. They were tested on 2 different programs (i.e. GeekBech 3 and GeekBench 4)." ~ That was the main gist, I put some examples of some handsets with different scores on the different GeekBench versions, and some links. I left that out to keep this comment as short as possible.
'matias98' replies to ME with: "I'm guessing you don't even know what you're talking about. I'm not talking about that...." ~ instead of him/her to tell me what they were talking about, they left it open to the wind for anyone to guess. Thanks...
My confusion already sky high, I then reply to 'matias98': "Where did you get this from???"~ they haven't yet explained why the OnePlus 5 has higher scores than the Nokia 9, I had already looked at GSMArena's GeekBench scores and saw that they (Nokia 9 & OnePlus 5) were tested on 2 different versions, so I assumed that they had mistakenly used these values to respond...
'matias98' then replies: "Yet, you still give incorrect answers. Try again, buddy!" ~ This just pissed me off frankly...
I then explained the, then current situation to 'matias98' (as I'm doing again now) and asked AGAIN: "Where did you get the idea that the OnePlus 5 has better benchmark scores then the Nokia 9?" ~ still haven't gotten an answer btw... >:(
You, 'rmstar99222' then replied to ME: "I'm sorry, but I do have to agree.
You're not answering matias98's answer properly." ~ I HAVE NOT GIVEN ANY ANSWERS, I'VE ONLY ASKED QUESTIONS. NOBODY IS ANSWERING MEEEEEE! AND SINCE WHEN DID PEOPLE START RESPONDING TO ANSWERS....WITH MORE ANSWERS?!?!?!?
-NEOPHYTE-, 23 May 2017What is wrong with you???
Have you somehow...lost your brain???
You said: "Yet, you still gi... moreI'm sorry, but I do have to agree.
You're not answering matias98's answer properly.
Carol, 23 May 2017What, Samsung has technology? Since when?If you left your bubble for a bit you'd realise Samsung is frequently winning awards for their technology. Only the dumbest fanboys don't know this. Even the average Apple fan on the street would tell you Samsung has the best hardware technology.
Nokia took the right path using near-pure android. That's what android fan need
Carol, 23 May 2017No modern technology and experience? I have not seen one bit of "modern technology" since noki... moreNot sure why you decided to start crying like that, but it doesn't change they have no modern experience of making phones. Hence why they made some experimental budget device first. See, even Nokia themselves disagree with you.
J o m s, 23 May 2017Who encodes video on their phone manually? So nobody uses that iOS-optimized encoding app. I c... moreThose are real-world applications and while not your average everyday apps people do use them. But my point for linking to those two specific tests in my first post was because they are demanding and show the power of the SoC. You said the A10 is not faster or even slower than the Snapdragon which is simply not true. Where CPU is actually needed the A10 is clearly a lot faster.
I'm not saying the Oneplus 3T is slow compared to the iPhone on everyday apps, not at all. Its snappy with its fast animations (which is a design decision, not a sign of a fast CPU) But its because todays SoC are fast enough to handle those simple applications, like opening the email app, in no time. I mean even todays middle range SoC handles those apps with ease. And the app opening animation on iPhone is in many cases longer than the actual opening of the app. Its not a test of the CPU, its not the bottleneck.
Again, my points was that when you actually put the SoC to work, the A10 is faster, just like Geekbench show.
AnonD-442781, 22 May 2017Precisely. The old Nokia is gone. They need to prove themselves, and whether they're able to d... moreNo modern technology and experience? I have not seen one bit of "modern technology" since nokia stoped producing and you come here with this lame words? You underestimate Nokia my boy, big time. Now, i know everybody likes to stay and praise their beloved money eating company's, but to claim somthing like this, you gotta be unknowing. Nokia has the patents, the network, the knowledge, the energy, and now, after selling the devices factorys, has the money. Nokia never stoped developing and they are the one's bringing 5g. Yet, you come here with ignorance. Nokia has become the sysadmin of a flood of idiots. Everybody accuse them, blame them, hates them. But funny part, they are the only ones able to do the job. In all this time, where their skills are used to the maximum, comes a dunghead and try's to prove how great he is but never does it, he uses just words and everybody likes and appreciate him. But at the end of the day, the "IT guy" goes home with satisfaction knowing he is the one who actually makes everything work, and they actually work, like a clock. Without him, any company goes down the road of pain, sorrow and bankruptcy. Still, no company will ever appreciate him, only the smart ones, those that have a brain that is also used. This is what Nokia is right now...their is a "but" tough.
johnnkennedy, 22 May 2017So finally nokia beat the Samsung ..Samsung are really really bad at snapdragon optimisation...
Anonymous, 23 May 2017I'm a developer myself so yes, i'm well aware what hardware being used thank you. Again, with ... moreWho encodes video on their phone manually? So nobody uses that iOS-optimized encoding app. I can synch 100+ photos/videos on my phone via Google Photos and it will automatically transcode and upload them in the cloud. All done in the background while I can still play games or browse or check email or listen to music without a lag.
kurotsuki, 23 May 2017Really? As far as I remember, CPU load is as heave as GPU when playing games. Sure, GPU handle... moreI am not arguing that single core performance is better or not. I am arguing that A10 is not 2x better as what Geekbench is telling us.
Anonymous, 22 May 2017It uses the same SD835 that everybody and his dog is using. That is no return, those are typic... moreYou have no idea what you're talking about, besides that you advise people to do what? Follow you? Nokia is not dead. The company never went bankrupt and suddenly reappeared. If you do not know, understand and have a brain, then please, for people sake...just don't say nothing! Not only that will save you some energy but also you will look more intelligent, now, i am not claiming that you are not, i have my doubts;).
J o m s, 23 May 2017Are you an iD!*t? You know you can't run any app or game or load a page without a CPU right? B... moreI'm a developer myself so yes, i'm well aware what hardware being used thank you. Again, with opening a simple application that do not requirer any CPU (and by that I mean its not a CPU heavy app) the loading animation will account for a large portion of the total time it takes to open the app. Therefor a phone with pretty much no app opening animations like the Oneplus 3T will be faster in some cases.
But when you open apps that actually use some CPU and take some time to load (like a game) that quick animation won't matter as much.
Again look at all my links, the iPhone is faster (and way way faster in the heavy photo/video and 3D animation editing tests) than Oneplus 3T. As soon as you doing any heavy stuff the iPhone pulls head.
Stan, 23 May 2017These benchmarks remind me of Intel Kaby Lake vs AMD Ryzen. Intel has fewer cores with awesome... moreNot so much different. Most apps still use two threads at most. One UI thread, one background task which usually queued, one execution at a time, providing that most developers, specially newbies, doesn't care about threads at all and just using UI thread and async task (Android) / gcd (iOS) without bothering to think whether they need to use special queues. Though in iOS case, it does not affect the whole picture since A10 only have two active cores (that's two threads). In Android, this behavior may wasting the unused cores (or may not, depends on the case).