Five Star, 15 Jun 2017EU is a bunch of elites thinking they can make us do whatever. Brexit is the way forward!Sure, the right question is forward to where?
I have to admit your forward sounds a lot like standing in the ledge of the cliff... and forward we go.
Anonymous, 16 Jun 2017Brexit. All Europe exited, they all want out. All Italy pulling at the reins to get their Brex... moreNobody wants out. The people don't want out, some of the elites want out:
You were played by the Rupert Murdoch media (Sun and similar) and proud of it... for shame.
The EU is a beautiful thing, and things like this show it. I hope one day, sooner rather than later, we will be mature enough to be one world, without artificial dividers like country borders and ridiculous rules and paperworks that apply to you but not someone else just because you were located in one place and not the other.
Anonymous, 16 Jun 2017"EU is responsible for bombs that go off"
That's what UKIP, daily mail and the sun says. An... moreBrexit. All Europe exited, they all want out. All Italy pulling at the reins to get their Brexit... Train crash....no more Brexit media.
All France wants its Brexit......Lorry shooting..no more Brexit media. Go figure. Who wants Europe this bad ? Check out the details of the TTIP agreement ,to see it gives American corporations, sovereignty over European government, just like Monsanto GMO and others, have already got it over America, they are not even allowed to print G M O, on the packets they are not even allowed to know what they are eating. In Europe now, there is no such thing as organic, yes thats right, its organic...according to. According to Eu/******/*****. Organic is simply ORGANIC you say, not anymore, somehow North America is telling GB, what is Organic ,through its EU setup, the regulations APPLY.. apart from, CERTAIN LOCATIONS, and UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. Non of which are named, ( Rather sounds like the mentality of those USA food packets...no info.) this means it has not named ANY location or ANY circumstance, meaning a getout for any reason any where, and when you see European foods now have aNorth American Organic symbol on them, and remember than GMO toting Monsanto has a reputation that stinks so its entered Europe by selling its massive share value to Bayer for @0.0001p a share, thats not all, that stinks. With billions floating around in loose change and all Europe to go at, with those unelected carefully, PRIVATELY, placed, Euro mp's, not even allowed upstairs in that building without a shaperone, not allowed to copy word for word, any line of legislation, and only allowed a short window in the week to go there, whilst American corporates walk in and out all day long freely, somethings wtotten in Denmark. Wonder if those legislative documents are all lose leaf ? Now I read this stuff with other normal people on the internet, and I don't even vote, I'm not political and I don't talk politics, I have a life, but if you can't be bothered to youtube TTIP, or GMO corruption and the Eu, then your not fit to larry the lamb, people about the European corporate one world project Me, I just ,eat, sleep, work, and play, I'm simple, you , well whether you're sent on here to lead pubkic opinion, or just plain wise in your own vanity, I don't know, but facts show you to be, at best nieve, and at worst evil. As the earth has managed perfectly, for thousands of years without being tought how to produce healthy food, so, without taking man's nature out of him, he cannot be ruled,if you take something out you have to replace it with something BETTER. Do you have the ability to exchange mans nature....with what ? Monsanto & co ? It is immoral to rule what you do not possess, are we slaves, that a few, NOT ELECTED should rule, when others WERE elected to serve ? Is it right to feed experimental poison to the masses with elected governments complicit.Well remember if people are expendable YOU are only a person, to those who hold human life lower than cattle, even a small farmer strives to keep his flock healthy, and you seek to support to the pinacle those who invalidate human preeminence, I may not have your education, but niether your fatal brain deadness.
Five Star, 15 Jun 2017EU is a bunch of elites thinking they can make us do whatever. Brexit is the way forward!yea we will see about that, goodluck dismantling trade law for the last 50 years in 2 years time you cocky brits
Gandalfdenvite, 15 Jun 2017We need more EU/democracy and less isolationism/fear/"Brexit"! Putin is the only one who wants... morehey its not putin whos dividing europe, its our enemy across the atlantic ocean - usa is the enemy of europe not russia. it is usa sponsoring teros and promoting conflict in our backyard...
Anonymous, 15 Jun 2017Oh, have you even went at least once to the EC web pages to check what it is doing? Or you are... morewell said! those euro-sceptic lunatics dont know a thing about the EU and think their salaries would increase 10 times if they left. the eu is not perfect - true, one example is the "refugee" policy, but we should fight to change whats bad and keep the eu going.
Sindroid, 15 Jun 2017Im Norwegian.. We are not part of EU directly, we voted NO last election.
So what did the Pri... more"EU is responsible for bombs that go off"
That's what UKIP, daily mail and the sun says. And I can understand them , they're probably paid to say such uninformed drivel. What's your excuse? Do you also read the daily mail? I would think that Norwegians have better news sources.
Now if you actually cared for geopolitics you'd see that global jihad is at a relative peak. You know, if you were not so Europe Centric you'd see that Islamism and Jihadism is on the rise. It's much more connected to the Internet , and middle eastern geopolitics than anything to do with EU.
The Shengen accords were signed over 20 years ago, terrorism of such internationality started when social media became as powerful.
Let me tell you how correlation works. We tend to think correlated too things that happen in historical proximity, not things that are 20-30 years removed from each other.
EU has many faults (partly that it allows oil hicks to participate in the market while not paying their due diligence), but global terrorism is not one of them, I'm sorry. A whole peoples are paying conspiracy theorizing and historical revisionism, please do not be one more of those.
If you really care about Terrorism read about the history of Islam, if you really care about the EU *read* what is it and how it operates. Do not re iterate propaganda that falls after a mere 20 minutes of informing yourself..
You cannot use your data plan and get charged per MB, so ends up very expensive, even if cheaper than before. And who doesn't use data? Nobody that's who. So still need to buy a local sim in visited country for data
Im Norwegian.. We are not part of EU directly, we voted NO last election.
So what did the Prime minister at the time do after the defeat? She snuck us in the back way. Cut a deal with them called EØS.. Sold us to the devil anyways. Didnt care.. Just wanted power.
So now we are stuck with those inbread hicks and suits down in Brüssels. Where they sit and cook up retarded laws that they push on us. Usually its for a more worsen economy situation for the most of us.
So what was the last on the agenda from them?
I present to you, "Roam like Home.. Now you can call in the EU without getting skinned financially."
So what really happened now after that went into effect?
I tell you. Higher monthly phonebills.
Phonecompanies sees Roam Like Home differently. For them they lose revenue income. So they increase prices on their monthly subscription by 20-30%. Simply pushes the bill over to the customers like any greedy business would do.
Suddenly middle and lower class citizens gets higher bills every month so that stupid, well off tourist and business men can call for for the same rate as home during their yearly 4 week vacation.
Where is the logic in that?
Smart tourist buy SIM cards in the country they vacation in for 4 weeks. Always done that every time i go abroad. Cost you like $20.00.. Thats it and thats that..
You know what i say?.. F**k EU & F**k every overpaid suits in the Brüssels office that sits and cook up stupid laws to make citizens with low paychecks in countries that are members of that redundant cult worse. EU is partly responsible why bombs go off in UK and France killing innocent people because of the free-entry border law.
Screw ´em all..
Five Star, 15 Jun 2017EU is a bunch of elites thinking they can make us do whatever. Brexit is the way forward!Says the guy with a freaking Queen at the helm, with a house of lords... I swear, sometimes -you brits- are so funny, intentionally or not ... Lol.
EU is a bunch of elites thinking they can make us do whatever. Brexit is the way forward!
Anonym, 15 Jun 2017You pay roaming, like everyone else who's not a part of the EU (other than Iceland, Norway and... moreI guess, Swiss residents should furthermore pay expensive subscriptions by mobile providers to have minutes in roaming.
TechLover1, 15 Jun 2017Ohh at least finally. Those of the European Commission they almost never do anything, they tak... moreOh, have you even went at least once to the EC web pages to check what it is doing? Or you are just generating gibberish looking at your ceiling? Or maybe the fact that one can travel freely from one to another country in EU crossing borders with 100 kmph happened by itself. Or the fact that any EU citizen can work in any other country and retire anywhere by combining the pension contributions from all countries where he worked and be covered by th emedical insurance. Or the very creation and take up of the GSM standard so the technical part of roaming. Or the air passengers rights (including the right to be compensated when there is a delay or cancellation). Or the GALILEO positioning system. Or the food labeling that informs you precisely what is in the food. Or the legislation that make sure that your perfumes and cosmetics are harmless (certainly not the case in US). Or the energy labeling of products. Or the breaking of industry cartels (such as the elevator companies, etc.) who jack up the prices for the users via secret pacts. Or the minimum of 4 weeks pay leave for any EU citizen. Or the minimum maternity leave for any EU citizen. And many, many other things. And by the way the salaries for the new recruits (who are very often contractual agents) have dropped drastically and in some cases are under the minimum wage for the country as is the case with some EU officials in Luxembourg. Maybe you should get a bit more informed before posting stuff.
Anonymous, 15 Jun 2017Upping the efficiency of a system is not free it is actually increasing profits in fact. Basic... moreWe need more EU/democracy and less isolationism/fear/"Brexit"! Putin is the only one who wants a weaker divided EU, more "Brexit" and fear among neighbors/Europeans! Brexit was all about racism, fear of Muslims, even though UK already have total control over their borders because UK is not a member in Schengen! EU must be one single country, but with very independent States just as in USA!
Hoffmann, 15 Jun 2017What if you have a Swiss number and you go to EU countries?You pay roaming, like everyone else who's not a part of the EU (other than Iceland, Norway and Liechtenstein). Hopefully things may change in the future, should the measure (against all odds and expectations) actually turn-out to be more profitable than the old system (as in much higher usage more than compensating for the new very low rates paid wholesale between operators).
Anonymous, 15 Jun 2017Someone will end up paying extra for something else...nothing is free. Europeans don't have ne... moreUpping the efficiency of a system is not free it is actually increasing profits in fact. Basically what computation did, basically what cutting bureaucracy between states wished to do.
In fact Europeans don't believe in profits (unlike Americans). This measure is half arsed and basically you still need local sims when travelling extensively and/or need more than the absolute minimums for calls and data.
This measure has been way overblown. As it is presented as the freeing of European wide communications and in fact it's mostly business as usual. At this rate maybe in 50 years from now I would be able to use the same sim as when I go from the state of Washington to New York while in US ... Until then I would be regarding European far less economically liberal than the Americans ... The continent is still balkanized in economic fiefdoms for god's sake and there are people who think even that as too much...