Anonymous, 15 Jun 2017LOL. A while ago Apple fans were saying 512mb is enough for ios and dont need ram like android... morethat was when ios was much simpler. just like android at the beginning could handle 512mb too but not anymore. UHAHAHAHAHA
https://youtu.be/TQc-tmyNEwc This thing is a beast, it made 9.7" pro model look very slow and that was already very very fast.
Kangal, 15 Jun 2017People don't realise how much of a big deal this is. As I said years ago, mainstream ARM chip... more20 years ago there was a bet that RISC would beat CISC in PCs and it did not happen. Now ARM vs Intel, the same story. Running a bench test does not equal running Windows and whatever runs faster under Windows will win in professional computing. Right now I do not even see Windows on ARM, so it does not matter when speaking of notebooks and professional tablets used in offices. For entertainment okay, ARM wins, for phones too but not for Windows office work.
As expected monstrous benchmark performance (especially single-core and GPU) from Apple. It's sad that after many years Android (or any other mobile OS) still hasn't closed the gap. (forget surpassing it)
Kangal, 15 Jun 2017People don't realise how much of a big deal this is.
As I said years ago, mainstream ARM chip... moreDon't get too excited about these benchmark results. This is merely a fraction of the performance story just like the case of the previous toyPad XL. In other benchmarks, it was crawling behind x86 chipsets, even behind Atom chipsets in some cases:
Won't be surprised to see this A10X fall flat on it's face in other benchmarks just like its predecessors.
Anonymous, 15 Jun 2017LOL. A while ago Apple fans were saying 512mb is enough for ios and dont need ram like android... moreTo people saying "A while ago Apple fans were saying 512mb is enough for ios and dont need ram like android. UHUAHAHAUAHAHAHUHA" what exactly can Android do with 4GB of RAM on flagship android phones....nothing. Even on the pixel and GS8 its impossible to hold 4-5 apps in memory and even less than that if you have 5-10 tabs open in the browser, the RAM management SUCKS. On an iPhone 7 plus you can have 8-9 apps plus 20-25 tabs open in Safari and the phone never slows down and everything is in memory, no Android phone can do this and this is a fact that us Android people have to admit. In terms of raw performance Apple is so far ahead its frankly astonishing. Previous iOS versions never offered "true" multitasking but that is not the case with iOS 11 hence the 4GB of RAM you numpties.
On an iPad with 4GB of memory you can do a lot, Android tabs can only dream of running Affinity Photo. The iPad pro will ace RAM management just like the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus only better.
This type of performance is missing from the Android realm and this is exactly the reason Google has poached ex Apple SoC designer to be the lead SoC designer at Google because Google knows it cannot compete with Apple CPU's with a SD8xx. Custom Google CPU/Soc + Android will finally lift Pixel phones to Apple A1xx level and then the competition will be fair and only then can we have a true "Google phone".
Apple has raised the bar with the new iPad and that's that.
Just looking forward to what A11 will have which will likely be 14nm. Or even A12, which will be 10nm or 8nm or maybe even 7nm which would be an absolute beast and destroy Intels latest and greatest high end extreme chips for $500
JMTM, 15 Jun 2017no wonder Google is now bringing all those chipset engineers its time to make your own like A... moreIt's not the optimization that makes Apples chipsets that great. It's nothing else than the pure performance which those can output because they are bigger. And as bigger is pricier, Apple can afford to make them bigger, because if Snapdragons got as big as Apple's chips, they would be twice as big and twice as expensive, and then no phone manufacturer would buy Snapdragons
Kangal, 15 Jun 2017People don't realise how much of a big deal this is. As I said years ago, mainstream ARM chip... moreI don't think Intel has anything in their pipeline to stop ARM, and the efficiency gains of those chips are still multiple times bigger per year than Intel's. It would of course be great if Intel made something better than ARM, or if they included ARM into their chips because I really like the naming scheme of their chips, it just sounds so dope, also much better than how the Snapdragons are named.
xXENDER FREAKXx, 15 Jun 2017WTF a few years later u will see apple's Fusion Core X series reaching to desktop grade scoresThey already are. A10 is as fast as i7-4790K in single core. And the A10X is even faster than that, and also much faster in multi core compared to A10
People don't realise how much of a big deal this is.
As I said years ago, mainstream ARM chips are now more powerful than mainstream x86 chips.
Compare the A10X, which is Apple's best, and compare it to Intel's best; Core i7-7Y75.
The A10X has better multi-core performance; ~9,400 vs ~7,300 (Core M/Y).
AND it also has BETTER single-core performance; ~4,000 vs ~3,000 (Core M/Y).
It's also doing this at a slightly smaller thermal envelope; 4W vs 4.5W (Core M/Y).
If these numbers or relativity holds true, Intel should be selling their own stock.
Intel's getting beaten by ARM on the low-power segment, and beaten by AMD in the high-performance segment. And Intel has no plans for improvements, the 7th-gen chips aka rebranded-6th-gen chips are what they offer. There won't be a drastic improvement at least until 2020 as per Intel's own presentation and roadmap. Though I don't doubt they'll continue to dominate the notebook segment with their massive marketing budget and OEM partnerships.
I actually predicted that ARM processors from Samsung's Exynos, Qualcomm's Snapdragon, and Huawei's Kirin SoC's would surpass Intel (7Y75) in 2018. I surmised that the 10nm lithography, and new microarchitecture (Cortex A75-A55), when combined with the newer DynamIQ-Computing should maintain their phone/tablet-friendly power profile, but equal and surpass the raw performance of the Core i7-7Y75. It's just surprising that Apple's doing it a year earlier in 2017 (!!!).
Now you must be thinking, why is this guy going on-and-on about the Core i7-7Y75?
Because it is actually Intel's second best chipset. Their best chipset is the Core i7-7920HQ which is their best binned wafer, built as a desktop processor, tweaked to run efficiently on a laptop. The i7Y is their second best binned wafer, built as a laptop processor, tweaked to run efficiently on a tablet. The 7Y75 is the fastest "Core M" processor and is roughly x2 faster than the slowest "Core M" (first-gen M3) model. The fastest "Core M" is 5-watts and 7th-gen, is roughly equivalent to the slowest "Core i5-U" processor that's also 7th-gen and requires 15-watts.
So the A10X is a 4-watt chip that's faster than Intel's 15-watt Core i5/i7 chips.
In 2018, other OEM's will play catch up to this performance point.
By 2019 it would have become normal to expect ARM to outpace Intel chips.
In late-2020, Intel will release their next chips which may catch up/outpace ARM chips again, who knows at this point.
no wonder Google is now bringing all those chipset engineers
its time to make your own like Apple...
make your own CPU+GPU thats fully optimized with your OS
LOL. A while ago Apple fans were saying 512mb is enough for ios and dont need ram like android. UHUAHAHAUAHAHAHUHA
CAMAROMANIAC3, 15 Jun 2017impossible!!!! the power level, it's over 9000!!!Lmao that joke LOL
CAMAROMANIAC3, 15 Jun 2017impossible!!!! the power level, it's over 9000!!!Lol
WOW.. this is amazing look at that scores. I think that the antutu score of this beast wll be 200k plus. This is a monster