Samsung to focus on 6nm chips instead of 7nm Comments
- NotAFanboyy
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AnonD-659932, 27 Jun 2017lol @ this marketing bs. Most people don't even know what a nm is let alone how it translates ... moreMemory is totally different from logic. Flash memory is always better with larger cells, hence 30nm would be even better than 21nm but your point is right for CPUs. Samsung is half assing their nodes and fooling customers calling them 14nm, 10nm, 7nm when they're actually refined 20nm and 14nm with smaller transistor fin pitches. TSMC makes real nodes unlike Samsung, therefore TSMC's nodes take longer but their chips always perform better and have lower power consumption.
- Anonymous
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AnonD-676901, 28 Jun 2017TSMC's 7nm will me much more efficient and powerful than Samsung's 6nm. This was already prove... moreOf course.
- toastyman
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Mirkran, 27 Jun 2017Yeah. It's called the Quantum Tunneling Effect. I wonder how chip makers will work around that... moreQuantum Computers are the way to go
- AnonD-640375
- kiN
Enlightened_Man, 27 Jun 2017They will not go smaller than 5nm. Its because quantum mechanics prevent s us from creating an... moreQuantum mechanics is not preventing us from going smaller, only our ignorance
- AnonD-676901
- E}k
TSMC's 7nm will me much more efficient and powerful than Samsung's 6nm. This was already proved when Apple sourced A9 chips from both Samsung(14nm) and TSMC(16nm).
- Anonymous
- ibm
I wonder how much of this is just renaming? 8nm=10nmlpp? 6nm=improved 7nm?
- Anonymous
- ELT
Anonymous, 28 Jun 2017All are still slow. 1nm will be fast enough for me to buy a smartphone.1nm?? 0.001nm ! Maybe !!
- Anonymous
- p2I
All are still slow.
1nm will be fast enough for me to buy a smartphone.
- Anonymous
- 4S2
ithehappy, 27 Jun 2017So seriously will there be something like 1 nm processor in future or what? Perhaps we can go as far as 0.5 nm, 0.25 nm, and 0.125 nm. I think that is as far as we can go with moore's law.
- Anonymous
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> Yeah. It's called the Quantum Tunneling Effect. I wonder how chip makers will work around that, if possible.
they don't have to. if you read up on semiconductor manufacturing processes you'll find that the whole Xnm labelling is just marketing. sure it "used" to be that the smallest feature size correlated to the name, but it's been over 5 year since that happened. now they just keep lowering the number to indicate it's an improvement over the last process.
- Anonymous
- 0xL
This has been known for months, even before Qualcomm went with TSMC. Samsung presented their roadmaps a long time ago that included 6nm chips.
- Anonymous
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AnonD-388534, 27 Jun 2017what in next after 1nm Atoms!
You cant bulid p-n junctions with discreet atom or two ;)
- Anonymous
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AnonD-659932, 27 Jun 2017*read* not directly comparable. the point is that smaller nodes aren't necessarily better...they are and the problems you've listed are only future problems.
- AnonD-659932
- xFP
Anonymous, 27 Jun 2017commenter bs
3d vnand is for storage. How can you even compare it directly to chipsets?*read* not directly comparable.
the point is that smaller nodes aren't necessarily better...
- Anonymous
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AnonD-659932, 27 Jun 2017lol @ this marketing bs. Most people don't even know what a nm is let alone how it translates ... morecommenter bs
3d vnand is for storage. How can you even compare it directly to chipsets?
- AnonD-659932
- xFP
lol @ this marketing bs. Most people don't even know what a nm is let alone how it translates to semiconductor manufacturing yet they use it as advertising to one up each other...
While smaller nodes do offer higher densities(and the corresponding benefits) they also have lower yields and increased leakage + a myriad of other technical difficulties(which is why only part of the die is actually made that small.)
I would take a more clever architecture over smaller node any day...(while not directly comparable) look at how good samsung's 3D-VNAND is - amazing performance, density, AND durability yet it's built on a 21nm node...
- Mirkran
- 8xB
Enlightened_Man, 27 Jun 2017They will not go smaller than 5nm. Its because quantum mechanics prevent s us from creating an... moreYeah. It's called the Quantum Tunneling Effect. I wonder how chip makers will work around that, if possible.
- TechLover1
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Well, definitely there is so much to say in regard of this. But basically no matter what happens and so on, the most important is that finally it will be the general technology itself to benefit the most from these, who will do that and who will do the other, etc. And because with so, it will be us/we the tech enthusiasts who will benefit from it, no matter who will do what and so on.
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