vrvly, 11 Jul 2017Well, there is always alternative view. Would sony come with f1.7 aperture, 12mp, there would ... moreXZ Premium has 12, 17 and 19MP for auto mode.
You can use 19MP in daylight and 12MP at night.
AnonD-4254, 11 Jul 2017The best approach of all times, I think, has been Nokia 808 Pureview. Think about it, it had... moreI am completely in agreement with you.. I still could not let go of my N808 because it is simply the best cameraphone to this day! When you see people voting for fine details - N808 had that with the 41MP sensor and everybody else just stay stagnant at 12MP.. And then you see people vote for accurate color reproduction.. N808 was producing real true to life Pureview accurate color and most people condemn it for being dull and muted.. And then they praise the oversaturated oversharpened punchy clown colors of Samsung, Apple and others.. LOL at the irony.. Normal people just don't know what they want and they would parrot what other people are saying.. It takes a photographer to appreciate the N808 for its astonishing quality.. It is already 5 years old and at this rate it probably will take another 3 years before other smartphone can achieve N808 quality.. As gsmarena review of N808 said - all the mobile phone manufacturer are in the cameraphone race but Nokia 808 has reached the finish line..
aTrueBbLover, 11 Jul 2017Im using galaxy s7 and it have one of the best camera. Great in low light. Though, low mega p... moreWell, S7 is quite hyped. What is really sad, I had lumia 1020 > lumia 930 > S7 and every "update" gave me worse photos. Ok, ok, camera was faster, including better HDR...more consistent results... but overall, S7 camera lacks details and eversharpening makes it even worse. Not bad at night, horrible in landscapes. Have no idea, what I have read in reviews (S8 is the same case).
The best approach of all times, I think, has been Nokia 808 Pureview.
Think about it, it had it all, noise control, detail, quality, flash-enabled low light, zoom, etc... What else do you want?
Even its lossless zoom gave a good bokeh, that too with a prime lens so no quality compromises there...
I would like such an approach to return with a Sony-based modern sensor, 1.5um pixels, about the same 40MP, aperture f1.7, and for that, yes, I'm more than ready for a normal camera bump, on the back... Even in 808, it wasn't that ugly.
Im using galaxy s7 and it have one of the best camera. Great in low light. Though, low mega pixel is still comes in play . Overall in satisfying with camera performance .
Per pixel detail.
Accurate colour reproduction.
High dynamic range.
Top quality lens.
Cameras are around for too long to mention the obvious anyway.
Anonymous , 11 Jul 2017I like how you describe Sony has found a middle way or the buddhist middle path. That is why I... moreWell, there is always alternative view. Would sony come with f1.7 aperture, 12mp, there would be no competition in matters of colors and low light. But nobody likes low res, be it screen or camera. 12mp seems great for low light, but we all want so great low light capability And high resolution. With nobody offering something like this, sony brings something close to that. Well, it will get better with nokia and microsoft coming back as great camera competitors.
XtremE16, 11 Jul 2017Only Sony Can do everything...Except producing very noisy pictures
I think samrtphone sensor makers should increase their sensor sizes and go for a 1inch sensor this will help alot in many aspecs.
For low light photography, LED flash is of very less help, except for maybe close up video recording in low light. Xenon flash is the best for low light photography. The pictures I've taken with my Nokia N8 in low light with the Xenon flash are crisp and sharp because the Xenon flash freezes the moving subjects on the shots. You can take a picture of a moving fan with the Xenon flash fired and the shot will have a frozen fan. Xenon flash along with LED Flash is much better hardware option for today's smartphones that can capture really good shots but most of the manufacturers only care about slim phones. Look at the Nokia 808... Nothing comes close to it.
Realistic color reproduction is very important. I don't want when I shooting a white flower in the morning, but the camera reproduce a yellowish flower just like Flower in the Sunset, it is so pathetic to get a artificial image. More example, when shooting a landscape with a lot florescent light, I also don't want someone turn into bluish or greenish. The sky blue I want it to be as real as I look, I don't want it look like cyan or even ultramarine.
vrvly, 11 Jul 2017Sony's found middle way with their sensor. Colors may feel cold in test shots but real samples... moreI like how you describe Sony has found a middle way or the buddhist middle path. That is why I love Sony, because they are very practical at what they are doing, more practical than other competitors.
One thing that makes a better camera is having a huge rim of plastic or metal around it so it wont get scratches... No matter what hardness they claim it to have the camera is only as good as its outer aperture being scratch free.. Something i love about nokia nseries... All very bulky phones.. But none have a scratch on the cam lens
Samsung S7 / S8 gets my vote for night shoot but
recently I had a chance to play with Huawei P10 and
was totally blown by how awesome picture quality
In the era of whatsapp fb and other photo sharers its the obsolete thing but in the end its fine details that cannot be reproduced... Noise takes 2nd place.. Everything else can be tweaked or be lost in our adding final touchups and filters
Details, I want that.
Low noise, I want that too.
High dynamic range, yes please.
But in the end I vote for accurate colors. Why? Because recently GSMARENA conducted a few shootouts in and in each of them I found color tints among the contenders and they appear consistent to specific brands. Bummer....
Punchy colors = fake colors, so, pass...