Enlightened_Man, 27 Jul 2017You have any idea how big games can be, son?
Star Citizen would be sized at 200GB.girl stop this sh...
Star citizen will be playable on 100$ pc ? No, so stfu. If u can afford gamer pc, u can afford ssd. Basta
So apparently USB 3.1 Gen 2 (that supports 10Gbps) should only be used with cables 1 metre or less for maximum speed. That's pretty restrictive.
I wonder if there will be a similar restriction with USB 3.2. Hopefully we're not down to half a metre max cable length.
franz.alex, 26 Jul 2017You know absolutely nothing!
Allow me to let you in on the space requirements of a GIS soft... moreFLAC albums, 4K media content, AAA games, not to mention the created contents.....
Even 2TB is not enough for the pros.
red, 26 Jul 2017ssd is affordable gadget. Problem is in mainstream users, they want big space for low price to... moreYou have any idea how big games can be, son?
Star Citizen would be sized at 200GB.
Build a Intel Kaby lake system.. load a optane m.2 memory. Go buy a 8TB spinning hard drive.. Speed of a ssd, but price of a normal spinning hard drive.
Open Steam.. download all games, go online download all your IDEs. No fuss, no need to clean up, no need to maintain separate partitions. Woohooo..
Anonymous, 26 Jul 2017Overall read speed less than 200Mb and write speed less than 50Mb xDHow about 4k video signal hm?
Kyo, 26 Jul 2017Although you are correct about 95% pc users just have illegal content,what about video content... moregamers who can buy 600$ GPU can afford 512gb ssd too ;)
Dont even talk about scientists or professional workers with video editing ;)
Who cries about ssd is not affordable is casual user who want storage pr0n and other stupid stuff on their ssd ;)
i got 256gb ssd on my desktop and it is enough even for games, because I dont install 10 massive games in one time, because I dont play them in one time :)
sorry for my english
red, 26 Jul 2017ssd is affordable gadget. Problem is in mainstream users, they want big space for low price to... moreWell not everybody can make do with that sort of space, unlike a virtue signaller like you.
Wth is with developers
Still the usb type c 3.1 is not fully functional and there is gen 2 come out
Yuri84, 26 Jul 2017Why not shoot for 40gbps instead? Thunderbolt is there already, right? And they still have a f... moreThunderbolt is intel exclusive, on their core i series only. (core m still do not have thunderbolt).. but they plan the next gen to have also.
If your chipset is not intel.. no thunderbolt.
franz.alex, 26 Jul 2017You know absolutely nothing!
Allow me to let you in on the space requirements of a GIS soft... moreYou know nothing.
Know how I know this?
Because I agree with your entire post, and that is what I was saying in the first place. So either you responded to the wrong person (likely) or you misread my post. I'm totally against the immensely popular movement of having Windows devices with 32GB/64GB soldered storage. I also think 128GB is too low. 256GB is when you can use it comfortably and you will need more as your requirements increase.
It's not too far off from what we saw on Android handsets. At one point 256MB RAM/8GB ROM was the norm. It quickly went to 512MB/16GB ROM. Then it settled on the luxury of 1GB RAM/16GB ROM+micro SD. Now 2GB/16GB is entry-low level, 4GB/32GB is midrange, and 4+GB/64GB is luxury.
Technology moves with time, and if you start from the low-end your hardware becomes obsolete swiftly. Whereas midrange hardware is decent for a few years. Luxury specs can last longer but usually the additional price isn't worth it.
Fantastic! But where I am at USB 2.0 480mbps are still commonly used, even still comes in the box of most flagship smartphones today. USB 3.0/3.1 gen1 5gbps are sold by third party makers, USB 3.1 gen2 10gbps have just become available here & most flagships can't even support that speed yet. What's more appalling is there're OEM's still equipping their phones with MicroUSB ports, even type C are not all that common in some markets.
Overall read speed less than 200Mb and write speed less than 50Mb xD
Why not shoot for 40gbps instead? Thunderbolt is there already, right? And they still have a few years before finalizing the specs, way before any devices appear. Or is 40 gbsp reserved for Thunderbolt?
Kangal, 26 Jul 2017You guys clearly don't use professional programs, or mainstream games with huge storage requir... moreYou know absolutely nothing!
Allow me to let you in on the space requirements of a GIS software developer (my day job).
Windows 10: ~20 GB
MS Office: 1 GB
Visual Studio (2 versions): 16 GB
Visual Studio Offline Documentation: 7GB
ArcGIS: 1.5 GB
ArcGIS SDK: 1GB
Satellite Images: 20 GB minimum
Software development libraries: 2 GB
Total: 68.5 GB
And that's just the essentials. An android developer will need some 20 GB more. Entertainment media (music) can take some 10 GB and the projects being worked on could easily exceed 4 GB.
Tell me then, why a person is unreasonable for requiring a storage space of 320 GB or more.
red, 26 Jul 2017ssd is affordable gadget. Problem is in mainstream users, they want big space for low price to... moremy gaming laptop absolutely needs at least a 500gb solid state here...ESO alone is ~120gb. it's actually quite strange you can't come up with a legal use for a bigger hard drive.
SSD is not for illegal contentT actually what benefit ssd will do to media، even raw video formats do not have any need for ssd to play flawless. SSD real need for now is for OS and some games.
10 Gbps could have been called 3.2 (5 Gbps 3.1),,,and the new 20Gbps -3.3...wondering if "USB IF" were half asleep while naming..!!
Ah, a little disappointing.
I expected all of this, but I was hoping the new standard would stretch to 50Gbps.
That means its roughly equivalent to TB3 speeds (40Gbps), which opens up lots of possibilities for accessories and functions. With one noteworthy being eGPU's like the Razer Core. Something that's standard and plug'n play would've really opened up the market for eGPU's and allowed OEMs like ASUS, Lenovo, HP, etc etc to jump on the bandwagon and advertise/adopt the technology on their mainstream ($1,000-$2,000) laptops.
I know its still inferior to a full-tower desktop, but sacrificing 10% performance to gain the portability of an Ultrabook is a worthy trade-off. And offloading the GPU to its own box makes the whole system modular and upgradeable, thus less likely to become obsolete like a Gaming Laptop. I rather not upgrade my laptop every 2 years like a phone, that's crazy expensive. Also don't want to carry a thick, heavy 17" gaming laptop which has only 4 hours battery life.