Vegetaholic, 31 Jul 2017Nice, but no one can beet Intel, Intel i7 CPU are just beastsOf course. Man. I7 is a beast. But you have to sell your car to buy it. While amd offers same processing at lower cost. And for an upgrade? Well cheaper on amd. Isn't it?
Nice, but no one can beet Intel, Intel i7 CPU are just beasts
uzi.m, 28 Jul 2017Add: AMD chips don't survive very long generally. Because they would generate considerably ... moreI believe U'r older person than me, at least 30s. Man, U'r era already finished, it's different story now. AMD no longer associated with short life or heats. Will Microsoft and Sony believe to AMD if their consoles will died in a short time eventually, the answer is NO. I won't argue for the APU since it's integrated with GPU.
Anonymous, 28 Jul 2017AMD no iGPU.. and if they make faulty chips.. they just shutdown those faulty cores and sell t... moreDon't worry .. AMD's APU will also launch.. That have Ryzen CPU + Vega IGPU ..
it will beat intel IGP's performance easily ..
First they will launch it for laptops during Q4 .. and in desktop early 2018 .. Those will be Pentium G4560 competitors..
uzi.m, 28 Jul 2017Add:
AMD chips don't survive very long generally. Because they would generate considerably ... moreWhat are you smoking? If AMD too hot then what about the i9 7900X? The first CPU in history that require AIO watercooling to work without throttling at stock clock pull over 200W and at 4.6 almost 400W even custom loop won't help.
AMD R7 1700 (8/16): 67W
INTEL i7 7700K (4/8): 71W
INTEL i7 6900K (8/16): 80W
INTEL i9 7900X (10/20): 267W
INTEL i9 7900X @ 4.6 (10/20): 378W
Right now you can't buy Intel's CPU with just money alone, you need to be pretty stupid if you want to buy Intel's CPU right now.
uzi.m, 28 Jul 2017I need a robust CPU because I need my PC for rendering mostly. Back in 2015 when I was buildi... moreIntel refreshes their CPUs every year, so by your own logic you can never determine an Intel CPU longevity. Double-standards much?
uzi.m, 28 Jul 2017Add: AMD chips don't survive very long generally. Because they would generate considerably ... moreExcept Ryzen CPUs are actually cooler than current Intels and, as facts and reality show, despite AMDs of old running hotter than Intel they were also designed and built to do so. The problem with AMD never was CPUs physically failing, but rather the shoddy cheap parts motherboard manufacturers and system builder often chose for AMD systems.
Anonymous, 28 Jul 2017Intel Core i and AMD Ryzen goes neck to neck on the top tier CPUs. Neither win each other out ... moreThe am4 platform for ryzen is going to run till 2020.
For a budget gamer, they could grab one of these and overclock on a b350 board, get towards locked i5 performance.
Then they can buy a new ryzen in 2020, same mobo, cooler etc.
Makes a lot of sense for someone buying dedicated graphics.
uzi.m, 28 Jul 2017Add:
AMD chips don't survive very long generally. Because they would generate considerably ... moreThat's just not true.
Ryzen is more efficient than intels current line-up, runs cooler as it is soldered versus low quality thermal interface material (tim, look at any skylake-x article).
AMD have never had serious longevity issues, my phenom ii from 2011 still works great.
What does it have to to with GSM- arena ___???
Can i put it into my phone???
I've been using AMD Laptop for more than 5 years, where did you get that idea ?
ithehappy, 28 Jul 2017LoL on the contrary. When you spend as low as this on a desktop system you will not be bothere... moreYou can buy a discrete GPU who matches integrated graphics for less than $50 (and even less if you buy used) and still win...
4 C / 4 Thread configuration with difference in single core score about 10% (within same frequency) makes a huge deal against i3.
Anonymous, 28 Jul 2017Recent Intel K series have iGPU as well. Only X series do not have. Intel HD 630.. not too sha... moreAdd:
AMD chips don't survive very long generally. Because they would generate considerably more heat.
Anonymous, 28 Jul 2017Recent Intel K series have iGPU as well. Only X series do not have. Intel HD 630.. not too sha... moreI need a robust CPU because I need my PC for rendering mostly. Back in 2015 when I was building my PC, I chose i7 4790 and 750 Ti SC. Now I'm thinking of upgrading to 1060. It'll give me a good 3 years on gaming. I may end up waiting for 2060 or 1060 Ti but in the meantime I may end up adding more RAM and a SSD.
The point is I can forecast that the i7 4790 will be in the recommended category for the next 3 years and nothing will ever happen to it. I can't say the same about Ryzen 7 atm. How much longevity you can expect needs at least a year to determine...
TYPO DETECTED: Wraith Max is the name of the alternative AMD cooler. COMMENT: I think this pressure AMD is putting over Intel is very positive for the market and the end-consumer. Having a dual-core these days is not acceptable, not even on your phone! With all these background services that "are here to help you", like smart search among other, and web applications being more demanding and running constantly on the background; having a dual-core is not enough. Every time I see a Core i3 or those Core i5 or i7-xxxxU (Ultra-low voltage) with only two core - and the price tag may be over $1000 - I want to do something about it. Even the newer Apple MacBook Pro with only a dual-core are a joke, more joke it will be on a Windows machine. Forget dual-cores!
uzi.m, 28 Jul 2017That's besides the point. K series Intels don't either. If you're spending a lot, you will be ... moreRecent Intel K series have iGPU as well. Only X series do not have. Intel HD 630.. not too shabby.. good for indie games, small form factor slim-itx pc, htpc etc etc.
But you are right, if you fork out top of the line cpu.. you most likely will pair it with a dGPU if you are a serious gamer.
LoL on the contrary. When you spend as low as this on a desktop system you will not be bothered with a dedicated GPU, so yes the i3 still has the lead there.
But hat's off to AMD for other 5 and 7 series Ryzen products, that they made Intel wake up from the damned monopoly they were enjoying for over a decade.
Ingvar, 28 Jul 2017So, as i understood AMD ryzen processors don't have integrated GPU ?That's besides the point. K series Intels don't either. If you're spending a lot, you will be spending on the GPU either way. Unfortunately for AMD the Ryzen 7 1700 is still on par with i7 4790. Sure the core count and caches are higher but Intel still has the performance game. I'm interested in Ryzen because we just might start getting better core support from games now which means the base i7 might be an octa-core in the near future.
AMD has also dropped the ball in terms of GPU. I hope they can bring out competent Vega chips, but as it stands nVidia is still the better choice all around the spectrum.
Anonymous, 28 Jul 2017AMD no iGPU.. and if they make faulty chips.. they just shutdown those faulty cores and sell t... moreLol. U don't know anything about how cores & cpu are manufactured. Got learn about it. All cpu manufacturers block cpu cores depending on the faulty cores. Even intel. Silicone chips are divided based on their fault.