Flossy420, 06 Oct 2017I'm not saying they are worth more just because they advertise, what I'm saying is that apple ... moreSamsung and alphabet have similar r&d budgets (both are a good bit higher than apple).
If you don't think Google is involved in serious r&d see:
They're also famous for their "moonshot" projects. They spend crazy amounts of money doing very fundamental research which usually ends up not being recouped.
Flossy420, 06 Oct 2017The idol 4s does indeed cost 400$ but you got to take into consideration that it comes with ev... moreThe pixel phones aren't that special, hardware wise, but no Android phone has particularly exotic hardware. The difference occurs when you look at the software experience. Even the next gen 1+5 and note 8 drop more frames (https://www.xda-developers.com/note-8-real-world-performance-analysis/), and provide a less predictable experience than the pixel.
Flossy420, 07 Oct 2017Look the cost of the S8
300$ just for parts. Now add in marketing, R&D, licencing, labour... moreThe bom for the pixel XL 32gb is $278, versus the $265 of the S7 plus.
Also, r&d budgets for alphabet and Samsung are pretty similar.
At least they'll come with an included fast charger like many Android phone brands, unlike Apple which charges you separately for something that should be included in the box (instead of a mediocre 5W adapter).
leledumbo, 07 Oct 2017No, Cortex A53 is a lot smaller than Kryo. Other than that main one, there might be another su... moreIirc, an Cortex-A53 is about 1/4 the size of a Cortex-A57, which should be similar in size compared to the Kyro core. Means you can push 8 A53 cores in the same die-size as 2 Kyro cores, when using the same process. The Adreno 530 GPU is about 2.5 times the shader cores compared to the Adreno 506 GPU. Since the shader cores are not the only part of the GPU, but should be the bulk, one could say that the GPU is about twice the size.
On the same process, the SD820 should be around twice the size as the SD625, roughly speaking.
Unique94, 07 Oct 2017Want to ask a question. I dont know much about processor size. Sd 820 and sd525 both used 14nm... moreNo, Cortex A53 is a lot smaller than Kryo. Other than that main one, there might be another such as GPU but I don't have any info, just use logical thinking that 530 should have more transistors than 506, so 530 could be bigger.
John Lofwire, 06 Oct 2017So... 1- unlimited cloud storage for picture and movies at original quality has no value. ... moreSome phone have better value than whatever Pixel is offering. All android have google drive. There a list of top smartphone camera and Im pretty sure Pixel not on the top. Stable and fluid android is great and all but it does get boring overtime. I rather have a little spice in life. That many features arent new. Yes, i can be apple or samsung lover. You are pixel lover. How is that statement even relevant in defending your phone other than feeding your ego?
John Lofwire, 06 Oct 2017cheaper internal are smaller so they can put a bigger battery in the same size. they also gen... moreWant to ask a question. I dont know much about processor size. Sd 820 and sd525 both used 14nm process. Does it mean both are in same physical size??
John Lofwire, 06 Oct 2017WTF you smoking?
Go see numbers.
how much revenue they make on those phone versus cost to... moreLook the cost of the S8
300$ just for parts. Now add in marketing, R&D, licencing, labouring costs and profits.
And yet, it still manages to be about the same price as the pixel 2 with far, far more features and better specs.
At least the Pixel 2 costs is fine at 650$ but pixel 2 XL is pushing it too far
John Lofwire, 06 Oct 2017Yeah and pixel 2 is : Faster. Better camera. Better screen. Better design. Faster upda... morei agree p2 has better battery but performance is mid range in front of pixel 2. my point is that if lenovo can put 5k battery at 8.3mm body then why not other manufactures? atleast they can put 4k mah just to match that high performance with a good battery life. it will be great if they do it. nowadays all the flagships (there are only few exception) suffers from battery issue. i would love to have a QHD AMOLED with a good battery life because that sounds a flagship deal. dont you think that a flagship should have a flagship grade battery life? my question to all flagship users
John Lofwire, 06 Oct 2017You really make no sense lol
Samsung is okay to charge more because they have a marketing d... moreUnderstand the argument first before commening, fanboy.
I never said we should pay more just because samsung has a marketing department and they have to fund their departments one way or another.
Having a functional R&D and marketing department justifies at least a part of the price but when google designs a very average device and removing the headphone jack brings nothing different from the competition
John Lofwire, 06 Oct 2017lol go buy your 5 mid range phone then no one force you to take the pixel.
i dont remember ... moreUnlimited cloud storage?
That's just an excuse for not having expandable storage so fanboys don't complain.
And you think updates make or break a phone?
I would rather get 1 update that is very stable and doesn't make the phone a laggy PoS like all the galaxy phones when the get to their latest update.
Oneplus might not have the latest updates first but their ability to add features snd listen to their costumers is far more valuable than having stock rom with 0 features and minimal upgrades each year.
.alpha, 06 Oct 2017iPhone charger charges at 1.54A at 5.24V which makes it a 8W charger. It charges 7 Plus in 2.5... moreGSMarena tested the charging speed of the iphone 7 plus with the standard 5W charging that comes in the box and guess what..... It took it 4 hrs to charge from 0% to 100%
.alpha, 06 Oct 2017iPhone charger charges at 1.54A at 5.24V which makes it a 8W charger. It charges 7 Plus in 2.5... moreLG G5 G6 charge at the max speed allowed by the charger.
Same with first gen pixel.
I know sometime Samsung dont.
So dont mix all android in same bag.
Flossy420, 06 Oct 2017The idol 4s does indeed cost 400$ but you got to take into consideration that it comes with ev... moreone plus is inferior in many thing compared to the two pixel lol.
its android version use more ram as its full of stuff and features so sure its has more ram but do its manage it better than a clean android? i highly doubt it.
Its also much inferior to pixel camera , software update ect.
its not comparable product.
Flossy420, 06 Oct 2017I'm not saying they are worth more just because they advertise, what I'm saying is that apple ... moreWTF you smoking?
Go see numbers.
how much revenue they make on those phone versus cost to build them versus cost of marketing and R&D cost.
the marketing can only justify max 50$ not Hundreds of $ lol delusion at its best.
Iandansk, 06 Oct 2017First they charge super high prices for their phones, then remove the headphone jack, and they... morethe charger they put in the box is easily in the top best charger put in any smartphone box lol.
dont compare 18 watt fast charger to 5 watt crap one plz ;)