Android makers looking into 3D sensing, under-display fingerprint readers sidelined Comments
- AnonD-294498
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AnonD-656673, 08 Oct 2017Face unlocking is basically useless when you're in front of a bright light, or you're a person... moreSeriously now?!? I really want to know what is the real purpose of you guys making up such stories? It makes you feel special? Or are you just psychotic fanboys? In either case, you hurt a websites comment section by not allowing the rest of us having unbiased tech-enthusiast's discussions!
The first face unlock failed because the staff that were placing the iPhone X on stage before the presentation had accidentally made many tries to unlock the phone and it ended up asking instead for the password. The exact same thing that happens with today's iPhones that have Touch ID: When you make a few unsuccessful tries of fingerprint-unlocking, it asks you for your password. You can verify that yourself by checking photos from the presentation. Apple has also officially verified this.
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I think someone in the 3D sensing business is behind this news, can't find any other logical explanation
Under-display fp reader + Iris Scanner = very secured phone
Is anyone interested of cutting your finger just to unlock your phone, or even be bothered taking away someone's eyes off?
Maybe, if you're a thief.
- AnonD-656673
- gMJ
Anonymous, 07 Oct 2017Iris scanners would have been a better alternative at this point, that is, if we're talking ab... moreFace unlocking is basically useless when you're in front of a bright light, or you're a person with oily, reflective skin. Even in the keynote the feature failed because of oily skin of that Apple executive.
Anonymous, 07 Oct 2017xperia is just a mehAt least it deserves what it should be credited for.
Anonymous, 07 Oct 2017No, it won't work, but you can try it yourself and waste all that money if you really want to ... moreIs the word "joke" present in your dictionary?
- Anonymous
- RIE
Fingerprint is still the best for me... Iris, no because I wear glasses and they always fail me... Face unlock, no because you need to face the phone to unlock it.. That's even slower than fingerprint scanner..
- AnonD-696542
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I'm sure samsung won't give up on under display fps and will bring it in 2018.
- AnonD-354653
- kjy
It seems to me, that the fingerprint scanners have just gotten usable! The one on my Moto Z2 Play is fantastic and it ACTUALLY WORKS!
I sure don't want the Android manufacturers to stop including them while they play around with other, undeveloped, crappy new biometric methodologies. Sure it's important to keep pushing the security envelope, just don't don't get rid of the the working stuff until the you've got something new THAT WORKS!
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Anonymous, 08 Oct 2017Both fingerprint readers and Samsung iris scanner have been tricked. Let's wait and see how se... moreApple already said that it can be tricked by a twin brother/sister.. Whereas fingerprint/iris scanner is different even with identical twins.. Although they can be tricked they require elaborate and meticulous methods not like FaceID when a twin just take your phone and unlock it no effort required
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Sony Fanboy Bitches, 07 Oct 2017FaceID can easily be fooled.
I can use Sony's 3D Creator App on the Xperia XZ1 to capture a p... moreWhy go through all that hassle just to access someone's iPhone X? You will go out and by an expensive 3D printer just to do all that. Take a very good picture of your victim and then wait ages for your 3D printer to print it only to find it doesn't accept masks and images.
Someone could just hold a gun or knife to you to get you to unlock your phone whether it has a pin or fps or retina scanner. So what's your point really, kid.
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Anonymous, 07 Oct 2017Apple settled with facial recognition because they were out of options (can't put sensor in fr... moreA contradiction, and there you have it in a nutshell.
You will always need to look at the screen to see what's on it, whether you use a fingerprint sensor or pin number to unlock your phone!
FaceID will become second nature. Everyone will want a system like Apples'. You will all wonder how you got by without it.
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NoToBrandLoyalty, 08 Oct 2017Apple's claim that FaceID is more secure than fingerprints is plain BS, and it's just their pa... moreWhich security experts have you spoken to and have told you all that?
Why would you want to unlock your phone but then not want to look at it? Do you want to let strangers see private and personal info on your phone? That's why you have a pin or fingerprint lock to stop them getting access.
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Anonymous, 07 Oct 2017For 2018? You sure those are the only cards these companies have in hiding? I don't think that... moreVoice recognition and digital signature? Im pretty sure voice recognition is old tech. Not very safe for biometric system. Voice can be recorded and copied. Digital assistant is more than enough for that. Digital signature only used for payment. Even now, this style of payment is slowly phased out and using PIN instead for better security. The next step of biometric is brainwave scan. I read an article of it many months ago. They call it brainprints authentication with 100% accuracy.
- Anonymous
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KamAbdi, 08 Oct 2017Finger print is the second secure and less secure technology because anyone can copy your fing... moreKid, you've been watching too many spy movies on TV.
- Anonymous
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KamAbdi, 08 Oct 2017Yes you are lying to yourself and I'm not asking you to trust me. I'm telling you that it is n... moreBelieve what you want to believe. Your opinions but not facts, that's fine as well.
The fingerprint sensor on the back will be a temporary step for flagships until they can get it on the front or use a different biometric authorisation system which will be as easy if not easier and secure to use.
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wake, 07 Oct 2017this analyst is always paid by apple don't trust himMust be true because you said so...;)
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Analysts like him have to produce reports regularly to keep their jobs so he digs around and gets info from suppliers and others like leaks from production lines and thise in the loop and then puts 2+2 together. Often they come up with 4 but sometimes he will come up with a 3 or 5...That's why they keep adjusting their reports.
- KamAbdi
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Anonymous, 08 Oct 2017I'm not lying to myself. I'm waiting for the product to get released before I make up my mind.... moreYes you are lying to yourself and I'm not asking you to trust me. I'm telling you that it is not ready and I saw it and do my researches in google. Samsung's tech isn't ready either
but i wasn't talking about Samsung's tech, I was talking about the tech itself.
Look, the hardware is their and implemented and it is good the rest consists of software.
Because no one works without the other.
You like to defend your brand its OK, be my guest. But not talking about brands though, I'm a Sony fan and I posted earlier that Sony will do the Same and I will tell you the tech isn't ready.
I'm here criticising the tech itself plus Apple showed it because they had no time and refused to put the finger print reader in the back in their logo and that would have been the smartest choice but they never did due to ego thing which I find it stupidity.
Apple couldn't implement the finger print under the display because their was no company did it so the can acquire it as they did with the finger print other than Qualcomm which they fought with.
- Anonymous
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KamAbdi, 08 Oct 2017Please don't lie to yourself. Apple is a huge company and the iphone is their #1 product which... moreI'm not lying to myself. I'm waiting for the product to get released before I make up my mind. What I don't do is trusting a nobody on internet without any knowledge in this matter saying that Apples technology not working.
Regarding Samsungs iris-scanner being tricked, I could ask you a similar question, don't you use google (or any other search engine)? Just search for it, its not hard to find...
Of course it has to do with the implementation, not all fingerprint scanners are equally secure. Just as not all face recognition implementations are the same. Its not all about software and algorithms though they do play a big role as well. Using a simple front facing camera for face recognition like we have seen on some phones will not be as good as one using multiple sensors like Apples. You can not solve everything with software...
- KamAbdi
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Anonymous, 08 Oct 2017How is it not working? Apple explained what happened at the demonstration. Were you there? Do ... morePlease don't lie to yourself. Apple is a huge company and the iphone is their #1 product which sells among Apple's other products so they will say anything in order to protect their precious and it's OK because every company will do like that. It's called politics. Don't you watch TV???
Show me a prove the iris scanner got tricked ??? Governments use Iris and finger print readers, also banks as well. I never saw a government uses a face scanner.
No its not about implementation, It's about software and algorithms. I'm not saying the tech is bad or will never work because it can be enhanced but, right now, the face scanner is not ready that's what I am saying. Because when companies implement some feature, their first year with the feature is their first gen. And first gens, tend to be fine but not great and meaning that it can endanger the person who owns the tech specially when it comes to security and systems like apple pay.
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