Just upgraded from My C5 to C6-01...........Just want to say that Nokia u r the best PHONE maker out there hope ppl understd dis and loyal fans r moving or others pointing fingers only because u r nt doing wat u r best at........Symbian still can stand and deliver but since u hve decide to RIP it plz ensure nt wave of fones are gud PHONE'S and then seriously think abt making ppl to buy them like iPhone's and android's........they hve the eye candy and sme good tricks up their sleeves but still they are behind..........like the way u hve allowed competition to grow up so far that symbian ws left wid no choice but to die don't let it grow nw so that u lose even as a phone maker!!! still u cn recover for the sake of ur fans and critics as i knw hw much importance u hve as a Phone Maker!! Hope u bounce back.......all r w8ng either to see u sink or rise!!
nokia assembled china phones are very incompetent hardwares. At low end price samsung, lg and china phones are more hardware stable. nokia is lowering itself by fool planning. WP7 cant beat android. Microsoft is itself not the best OS manufacturers so how they can give nokia a peak position?
Old Nokia User, 10 Jun 2011The nokia is getting what they deserve. Nokia thought that they will rule the phone market by ... moreHey, if u say dat nokia hasnt got any complete phone then who will. No one can compete with nokia on build quality. . .
[deleted post]lol? 95% of my friends use Andoroid,iOS or RIM OS...where most of them used Nokia like 3 years ago INCLUDING me, so your theory of people not liking Android & blah blah blah is BS!
cause once i switched from Nokia (my last was N95 8gb) im much more in love with the new phones i use cause they don't lag as hell & at least not as bulky as a bring like Nokia phones. my N95 8gb looked sleek, but you can't deny it's bulky! so keep hailing Nokia while the ship sinks, when we enjoy our next gen phones.
your ignorance & Nokia's market & consumer wants ignorance led Nokia to this situation today. Nokia's sinking like this reminds me of Titanic, cause they both boasted about themselves & now look at what happened lol :)
adi, 11 Jun 2011no reason to panic yet i think. we need quality competitor like Nokia on the market. i wouldn'... morethe trojan horse doing much he kill meego , he call symbian burn platform while new symbian born in 3month that he doing in 6month he got the job LoL. poor nokia.
nokia have made some gems,,e71 is a perfect example..best made smartfone to this date,,,ok ,ok i know it not a touch screen and it cant compete with 1+ghz fones,,but give credit were it is due,,no other fone come close
Nokia failure is to be blamed on it's inability to feel the pulse of the consumer needs. My first phone is a Nokia. It was able to do so much and I continue to upgrade till to the E series. Then I bought a Windows phone followed by an iPhone. The rest is history. It's not the phone but the user experience. Nokia totally forgot this area and now it has totally abandon Symbian and embraced Windows. It's a double sucide. The price point of the impending phone will be it's death knell.
SE and Moto are clever. They did not bother with reinventing the wheel. Just follow the wave and surge forward. They have since recovered from their dalliance with Symbian and Palm OS. Nokia should look into their marketing strategy. They should start by revamping and rejunavating it's leadership team across all departments. Otherwise Nokia will be another case study in management textbook.
I have had bought overy 30 Nokia handsets over the past 10 years or so with many of them being gifts as well. From my first 6110 to current N900. Unfortunately, this is also the end of the road for me with Nokia. N900 is a great device but lack of software support leaves me frustrated. Getting a BB soon n Good bye Nokia. When there are millions out there like me, Nokia not surprisingly will end up in a loss!
The only way to grab the top spot is CHANGE. Nokia should change the symbian operating system and stick to new operating system for some time. Abandoned MeeGO, and not going with android, not introducing good Dual sim phones. The introduced dual sim phones doesn't offer dual sim standby, very funny. Despite of these things Nokia want to be on top spot. How? If Nokia introduces good dual sim mobile in India, it will be sure HIT. Meet the market demand, don't think that market will follow you by giving peanuts.
no reason to panic yet i think. we need quality competitor like Nokia on the market. i wouldn't like to see Samsung dominating mobile industry, however its happening.
the thing is i do not understand what is Elop doing? if they (Nokia)really have not something 'magical' in the 'hat', then he is the worse CEO i ever seen.
nokia should go for android instead of windows mobile. nokia's still the best phone manufacturer imo they just dont have the right operating system
today i checked lg E900 OPTIMUS and samsung OMNIA 7 . and i find all users are so happy with windows 7 phone :-) even some users said windows 7 phone is better then ios and android :-) . that's mean nokia will be number again . good choosed nokia windows 7 phone .
[deleted post]The majority of apps don't work on low end Android phones? What are you talking about? The only apps that don't work on low end phones are highly intensive apps (mostly 3D games) which isn't the majority. I believe you've never used an Android phone before if you said that...
You say that there's fragmentation on Android but yet failed to realize that there's fragmentation on Symbian as well. Have you forgotten that Angry Birds only work on Nokia phones running on Symbian^3 and Maemo and that it doesn't work on S60v5 phones (there are more S60v5 phones than Symbian^3)? There are a lot of apps that don't work on every Nokia Symbian phone.
Some needs S60v3, some needs S60v5 some needs Symbian^3. The fragmentation on Symbian phones are much worse than those on Android because you can't actually upgrade to the newer versions of Symbian and remember, the low end Symbian smartphones are running S60v5 so the MAJORITY of good apps don't work on them. While on Android phones, although manufacturers might not always release the update. At least there are ways around it (eg: Custom ROMS).
Also, Motorola and Sony Ericsson only came back because of Android, which makes your "Android is starting to crumble.." statement repetitive.
"Most people who have tried Android find it poor". Really? Most of the people who bought an Android phone here says they love their phone and not because it had Android but the experience was great. People I know with or had Symbian phones, most said they had a horrible experience. I am one of them. The last good Nokia phone was the N95. Everything after that, is crap.
Also, why are you referring to the Xperia X1 which runs on Windows Mobile?
JS15278, 11 Jun 2011in the end nokia will roule even with the same software with other brand nokia will be differe... moreNokia will be sold to Microsoft, as Elop and Gates planned from the very beginning when Nokia choose WP as their main OS.
This is what happens when Nokia keeps on making phones that people don't want. Nokia failed to capitalize on the flip phone craze back then and they failed to make touch screen phones that the public would want. Nokia only have themselves to blame for their own misery.
[deleted post]An emphatic piece.I'll try mine in a more condensed manner.
Nokia had more than once enjoyed numerous ooportunities, market leverage and immense brand loyalty to have figured out the many ways on how to skin that Symbian cat.
Plain and simple..They've failed.The options were:-
1. Stop whatever the hell they're doing wrong with Symbian's bloated, uninspiring and laggard UI and call in the SPB Shell guys to help.They didn't.
2. However good your designs are, however strong the phones' build quality, batt life expectancy AND phone cam superiority that Nokia enjoys, >they simply can't extend their overpricing tendency for too long.People can't be stupid all the time.Usage is usage and specs are specs.People can learn.< Even if Android's fragmented, iOS runs on 1 phone and everyone's bored with BBs? To overcome there is no other choice but to innovate the same (or even better still..better than) as everyone else.
3. There's massive amount of independent efforts out there at Symbian's custom ROMs.What's their official stance on that?Is there really any specific manufacturer to community help provided?Symbian could have beaten Android at its infancy.There's literally just a 1 man team that maintains Samsung Omnia HD's custom ROM for example?Train has long gone...
4. Symbian got stuck at that "old MS" scenario when we're still seeing S40 phones for crying out loud.Nokia didn't need to maintain that roster of dumberphones with stretched legacies and they could have easily leave that to the smaller newer players.Free that space up for the Symbian devs to focus on future versions.As market leader it is up to Nokia to redefine the lower end range at a better value proposition.That didn't happen.
I'll be very very suprised (in a good way) if somehow Nokia can repeat the same price points' strength for their upcoming WP7 phones.A near impossible feat if I have to troll this some.
But like it or not the older $50 phones have to make way for NEWER AND BETTER $60 phones at that bottom product range.How? Well I'm not the 1 with billions in R&D to figure that out innit?