invodious, 18 Oct 2017Nokia had the right to be the King and Queen in the mobile world, back in the 2000's. If it wa... moreThen you know it's no longer the same Nokia that you once knew. This is a new approach... different people, different company, different product and engineering. Rights to a name is all you get. Nokia is gone except for the logo.
Anonymous, 21 Oct 2017keep dreaming pal, no one ask you about how fanboy you are..Still nit believing me, Nokia 7 has finally be in the top 1 chart today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nokia had the right to be the King and Queen in the mobile world, back in the 2000's. If it was not for Stephen Elop, then Nokia still would have been the King and Queen. The reason of Nokia's fall was not because of the consumers, or Android nor Apple, but because of Microsoft's creed to have Nokia for themselves with their Lumia and Windows Phone devices. Whatever Microsoft touches, dies. Nokia has had the time to re-think their strategy, knowing they still have a huge number of fans out there. And man, did they proven them selves. Samsung had a good time of reign when Nokia was out of the picture, but that soon will all change once again. Nokia still makes quality phones, with quality materials and a good priceing. It is not that I dislike Apple or Samsung. Apple makes high-class devices, designed for those who don't mind to fork out a big sum every year for a new device. Samsung has simply sailed the shockwave Microsoft left behind when it distroyed Nokia. Their device are not bad, but to expansive for what they can do, besides the face that Samsung service grade is not very good. So, for me it will be Nokia once again, yes, I am one of those "many" and "old" fans of the brand, but that is also because I know what they do and can do. I don't look at Nokia as a "regular" consumer who just want to buy a phone for less. I look behind the scenes of the company, and when you do that, then you can see, how Nokia plays the game. Letting Microsoft destory Nokia was just a "clean-up" for them, but now.... Nokia is back, more powerful then ever and... smarter! :-D
Samsung market share is being taken up by Nokia. Good enough because Nokia provides better specs for lesser price
I had a terrifying nightmare that Nokia may regain it's magic to re overtake Apple and all others. Unfortunately to others, Nokia has a very high chance to be a king!!!!!!! Here's why:
1. They are making a milestone 5G network.
2. Android is helping Nokia a lot if you didn't believe.
3. Doing a donation drive and fund raise for charity to the disable people's in underdeveloped countries.
4. Feature phones that are coming back to reduce the consumption numbers of smartphone in a long run.
5. Helping financial services to low income people and focusing on the economic strategy rather than the future innovation gadget.
If all that happens before 2025 (which HMD has the right to hold the license for Nokia brand for 8years), all other phone brands manufacturer will immediately go into bankruptcy.
microsot never care its customers . HTC contributed.a lot in by launching windows PDAs , handheld devices later on called pocket PCs. Users had to download third party limited softwares and themes and to buy animated themes. Mic4osoft killed old vereion by stopping uppot like 2003 2006 window 7 when million of users were using instead off upgrading .
HTC also gave birth of first andriod in2007. I still love windows 2003 layout want to use but how?
Oathbreaker, 16 Oct 2017The only downfall I hope happens is with Apple in a few years. They are cancer to the mobile i... moreNo need to drag Steve Jobs name into your comment, and don't blame Apple for what other companies do, if other companies are not willing to walk their own road then its their problem not Apple's
Anonymous, 16 Oct 2017Well tell that to my uncle's s7 32 GB variant. He complained it lagged very much. I Checked it... moreYour uncle screwed his phone. Clearing the cache is an important part of a good device maintenance.
Anonymous, 16 Oct 2017Samsung experience fluid???? BHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Do us a favour and get off the drugs. B... moreIf you think I'm under drugs then you are wrong. And you are also wrong about lags in Samsung Experience. But go ahead, continue to make a fool of yourself. Insult (or at least you tried to but that didn't work so well didn't it?) and stay in denial. At least I'm not the one spending tons of money on bad cameras while the same company provides their best sensors to the others!
Interesting to see how much marketshare Nokia got in such a short time.
The only downfall I hope happens is with Apple in a few years. They are cancer to the mobile industry like the one Steve Jobs died from. Painful sick to your stomach feeling.
MacBook Pro - removes MagSafe, SD slot, glowing Apple logo, uses only USB-C, still has headphone jack, adds Face ID
iPhone 7/7 Plus - removes headphone jack, still uses Lightning Connector
iPhone X - removes Touch ID replaced by Face ID, no more headphone jack, still uses Lightning Connector
This is uniformity? Someday, eSim will win out again and we will be locked into carriers without the convenience of switching between different phones so easily. It's Sprint/Verizon CDMA ESN all over again.
I love my iPhone SE and MacBook Air (thanks to macOS) but hate what Apple does sometimes. The brands I will continue to support even though they aren't perfect (who is?) are quietly innovative like LG and HTC. I'm not pleased with how Google tries to copy Apple as of late.
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We need to wait for the Nokia 9. This could be a revolutionary milestone and higher chance to rise up. However that's not all, in a long run they need to improve customer care centers, having long term warranty for older phones and newer ones, having market campaigns in all countries and last but not least, their phones pricing needs to be reasonable or affordable and better spec.
Robert, 16 Oct 2017Jesus christ, that graph...hahahaha... sam here
Nokia didn't die because they chose Windows Phone instead of Android. In fact, Nokia destroyed itself. Nokia was already dying and suffering way before Windows Phone.
Just remember when Nokia's newer "high-end" phones were worse than their predecessors. Nokia N82 was the last good Nokia. After the N82 era, the new Nokia phones were pile of shit. They were horrible. Nokia released phones with weaker CPU, worse camera, ... totally a downgrade. Without any improvement.
S60V3 had several annoying problems. And it was not possible to upgrade the OS on those phones.
I've always hated the business strategy of Nokia. When they released a phone which has a plus feature, they took away another feature that was present in older devices. (For example N95 8GB was chargeable with USB, but the N82 wasn't. 6220 Classic was similar to N82, 6220 Classic had newer Symbian version, but it didn't have WiFi and 3D accelerator, ...). Same happened on software level. If you wanted to get the newest Symbian 9.3 and Ovi Maps with free navigation, you had to buy a new device, despite Ovi Maps (cracked version) worked perfectly on Symbian 9.2 too, but Nokia didn't make it officially compatible ON PURPOSE. Nokia also changed Symbian multiple times the way it completely broke backwards compatibility (for example the unnecessary changes from Symbian 8 (S60V2) and older to 9 (S60V3). It also annoyed people. Developers had to re-create everything again and again, old N-Gage games become incompatible, ... (And Symbian 9.2, 9.3, 9.4... also had compatibility problems with each other.)
And they released tons of phones with the same specifications.
Nokia didn't care about improving their devices, their customers, innovation, ... so people switched to other brands.
In 2009, while the Nokia high-end phones had only 400-600mHz CPU, 480p video recording and no 3D accelerator, the competition (Sony, HTC, Samsung) had 800mhz-1ghz CPU phones with HD video recording and 3D accelerator and more RAM. The Nokia phones in this year were dumbphones compared to the competition.
Their N-Gage was a total failure. It should have to use the 3D accelerator (GPU) so it would be the excellent, Nokia exclusive gaming system. But instead, the quality of N-Gage games was equal to Java games, crap. (Except a few games, for example Brothers in Arms, however, that had serious LAG problems on the officially supported classic devices like N95 (8GB), N82. Nice idea, poor execution.
So Nokia has never created any good phone without major flaws. They frustrated their users
2009 is the year when I started to hate Nokia.
If Microsoft didn't buy Nokia, Nokia would die 7 years ago in 2010. So Microsoft is the savour of Nokia.
If Google didn't create Android, Samsung or HTC with Bada or Windows Mobile would become the market leaders (and Windows Phone would not have been created) and Nokia would still lose the fight.
Conclusion: Nokia deserve to die.
ProJames, 15 Oct 2017I didn't say that I wanted that, but the AVERAGE BUYER does. And if you reference to Samsung, ... moreSamsung experience fluid????
Do us a favour and get off the drugs.
Both S8 and note 8 are laggier than my 4 year old Z1
Nokia had to kill symbian.
They were working on getting Symbian updated, to support QT.
But that work was way behind schedule.
And most likely since they were awaiting the developers to get the new symbian out, they no longer had any devices that were adopted to the symbian they were still running.
Keep in mind symbian had a resolutio cap. So with symbian they could not increase the resolution.
Nokia had MeeGo, though, however, a lot of management and middle management were tied to symbian. So they were fighting with claws, not to see MeeGo take over as the primary OS of Nokia.
That is the whole reason for the QT update of Symbian.
But that also meant that there was only a small team working with MeeGo phones. And with little support inside Nokia, there was no way they could push new products out.
Yes Elop did not have to announce the death of symbian. But Nokia would have still had to kill it.
The risk though is then, with as much influence as people tied to symbian had inside nokia board of directors, they could have then had Elop fired withouth having to explain wh, as there would have been no puplic record of him killing symbian.
By announcing it, he made sure that he could not be fired due to kiling symbian, as that would mean that Nokia had to publicly defend symbian, and there was simply no way that they could as it was clear it was on its way down.
And the Symbian update program was just eating away Nokias profits. With no result to present.
And going for Meego or WP made no difference in that case, since the people fightning symbian were defending symbian and not any in-house OS of Nokia.
Elop was perhaps not the best person for Nokia.
Symbian had to be killed however.
But with another leader, perhaps MeeGo would have gotten a fair chance.
But with all the app craze, it would have been difficult for nokia, as it was for Microsoft.
In my opinion it would have been really nice to see both WP and Meego around today, for some variation.
But I guess that would have required Nokia, and MS to work with Google to form some kind of shared platform for developing apps. Back then in 2010-2011 before Google got clearly ahead. Perhaps Palm and BlackBerry platforms could have been brought onboard as well.
That way I think apple would have lost the App throne. If developers could easily port their Apps on to several of platforms.
But the QT for symbian, was clearly a dead end.