Counterclockwise: the rise and fall of smartphone brands Comments
- AnonD-152638
- mhB
Nokia had to kill symbian.
They were working on getting Symbian updated, to support QT.
But that work was way behind schedule.
And most likely since they were awaiting the developers to get the new symbian out, they no longer had any devices that were adopted to the symbian they were still running.
Keep in mind symbian had a resolutio cap. So with symbian they could not increase the resolution.
Nokia had MeeGo, though, however, a lot of management and middle management were tied to symbian. So they were fighting with claws, not to see MeeGo take over as the primary OS of Nokia.
That is the whole reason for the QT update of Symbian.
But that also meant that there was only a small team working with MeeGo phones. And with little support inside Nokia, there was no way they could push new products out.
Yes Elop did not have to announce the death of symbian. But Nokia would have still had to kill it.
The risk though is then, with as much influence as people tied to symbian had inside nokia board of directors, they could have then had Elop fired withouth having to explain wh, as there would have been no puplic record of him killing symbian.
By announcing it, he made sure that he could not be fired due to kiling symbian, as that would mean that Nokia had to publicly defend symbian, and there was simply no way that they could as it was clear it was on its way down.
And the Symbian update program was just eating away Nokias profits. With no result to present.
And going for Meego or WP made no difference in that case, since the people fightning symbian were defending symbian and not any in-house OS of Nokia.
Elop was perhaps not the best person for Nokia.
Symbian had to be killed however.
But with another leader, perhaps MeeGo would have gotten a fair chance.
But with all the app craze, it would have been difficult for nokia, as it was for Microsoft.
In my opinion it would have been really nice to see both WP and Meego around today, for some variation.
But I guess that would have required Nokia, and MS to work with Google to form some kind of shared platform for developing apps. Back then in 2010-2011 before Google got clearly ahead. Perhaps Palm and BlackBerry platforms could have been brought onboard as well.
That way I think apple would have lost the App throne. If developers could easily port their Apps on to several of platforms.
But the QT for symbian, was clearly a dead end.
- Anonymous
- X%7
AnonD-558092, 15 Oct 2017I didn't say that I wanted that, but the AVERAGE BUYER does. And if you reference to Samsung, ... moreWell tell that to my uncle's s7 32 GB variant. He complained it lagged very much. I Checked it and found that storage was almost full. Decided to clear WhatsApp videos totalling 12 GB and the phone rebooted in mid reboot. Wth was that. Even my redmi 4 isn't that weird..
- Anonymous
- Kit
It seems like Xiaomi became a silent killer for other phone company.
People who use their phone for gaming but doesnt want spend much money like me will see xiaomi brand as a perfect choice.
Decent Camera and decent model (except mi mix of course) but with a good processor and big battery combined with cheap price its the perfect choice for a budget phone for gaming. i dont think other phone company is taking this "budget gamer thing". For budget segment almost every company always boasting about the camera and and their full hd display.
Because of that xiaomi get a rare competitor for this segment
- Rex Tech
- 04P
If LG starts making real effort and start making great mid range phones like back in the days it can be going against many companies.But instead of LG picks either to use high quality screens on budget chipsets or media tek chipsets and produce random devices with large screens and low ram/pic quality.A year ago it produced some bad looking phones with nice specs and 2 years before that great looking phones but with poor specs.LG software was always interesting to me and pretty light.If they use upper mid range chipsets and their known cool looks for contenders price they can be easily in top brands.
- Anonymous
- 60E
Fayth, 16 Oct 2017I've heard 'Sony is dying' about 4-5 years ago... that's a looong way to dieyeah. so sad. their mobile division is in coma condition. or dying. it will finally die, if its parent company decide to shut it down
- Fayth
- PA7
Anonymous, 16 Oct 2017sony is dying dude. most people in the world avoid it. this is a realityI've heard 'Sony is dying' about 4-5 years ago...
that's a looong way to die
- Anonymous
- 0uJ
Apple phones isn't premium. They are just midrangers with premium pricing. Sheep's.
- AnonD-119666
- tZj
agreed
- Anonymous
- 60E
Anonymous, 15 Oct 2017Sony is number one. Few people will understand it. Sony's stable smooth software? Do you know ... moresony is dying dude. most people in the world avoid it. this is a reality
- AnonD-690051
- thv
AnonD-558092, 15 Oct 2017I didn't say that I wanted that, but the AVERAGE BUYER does. And if you reference to Samsung, ... morei agree with your comment. S8 with a slim case is more durable, and still looks slimmer than xperia without case.
xperia already has big bezel, using it with a case will only make it looks super thick and ugly.
- Robert
- P2p
Jesus christ, that graph...
- AnonD-699395
- 6P$
Previous generations used to last for ages, the variety these days is disposable.
- AnonD-558092
- r7b
Anonymous, 15 Oct 2017You want cool design instead of durability? Who cares about design if your phone will lag and ... moreI didn't say that I wanted that, but the AVERAGE BUYER does. And if you reference to Samsung, then I'm sorry but you are in denial. Phone breaks easily? You must be very clumsy and you could use a case. My Samsung devices survived multiple drops without the screen shattering. After 4 years my phone got a thin crack because some jerk slapped my phone to the ground. Lags? Use a recent phone, not a mono-core SII on Gingerbread or ICS, or a lame Galaxy J1 Mini Prime. TouchWiz/Samsung Experience are fluid interfaces since Marshmallow when used on midrange devices and better (A-series, J3 and up, S).
Sony has a mostly stock interface and may have slightly more ''clumsy-proof'' designs, but it lacks appeal. Which is why Sony only holds barely 3% of the Android market and this number is still going down https://www.appbrain.com/stats/top-manufacturers
- migotka21
- mMG
Isn't Siemens missing? They made some nice mobiles and feature phones, too. They exist but no longer deal in mobiles.
- Anonymous
- IVx
More varieties now?? I dont think so.. It is more like a lot of different companies making the same phone with same features and even same design.. Nokia alone in its heyday had more varieties than all of todays brand combined
- DanishBeacon
- nRB
Anonymous, 15 Oct 2017Sony is number one. Few people will understand it. Sony's stable smooth software? Do you know ... moreYes, that is true. Sony lags on design but probably the best software experience!
All of my Samsungs were getting slower as time went along and new updates were coming, but sony... My old Z3 had an Antutu score 48600 on original lollipop and after update to marshmallow i got wooping 57000.
That's sony software optimization!
- carol
- snj
Ef Raim, 15 Oct 2017This part "If you take one thing away from this chart, let it be this – we have more variety n... moreYes yeah but still, apple and chinese conpanies have to go;). They are market destroyers. Before apple, people could buy high end devices produced in Europe with 500 euros. Those devices had everything one phone need. Charger, headphones usb cables and so on, everything of the good quality. Now after apple, everything is produced in china and cost double! No more headphones, hack some even have no usb cable. Newly we also have no more jack for headphones. Apple hast to go. The only thing they did in this market was to raise the prices, and that is not in customers advantage.
- thisguy
- kD@
thats a horrible graph. try again.
- Ef Raim
- UD{
This part "If you take one thing away from this chart, let it be this – we have more variety now than ever before. And don’t ever, ever, ever say that you are about to kill your most popular product."
- Hats off to you Mr. Peter .. That's how people should think, let the competition do the math. Don't ever talk about leaving or cursing a brand to fail . More competition , the better for consumers !
- Vegetaholic
- sX%
Anonymous, 15 Oct 2017Sony is number one. Few people will understand it. Sony's stable smooth software? Do you know ... moreBiggest nonsense I ever read, Samsung interface as smooth as it can be, it is not 2013, I had Sony erricson before and it was catching up with competition, unfortunately same with Sony, it is behind all the time and last to implement. No design improvements, camera are mediocre at best even they made high pixel sensors before and provides sensors to competition, cameras are not great, no Amoleds, sticking with same old LCD panels, doesn't have any great software features unlike Samsung touchwizz, so to be blond fanboy you can be at best
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