So with an eSIM, I can then get services from my provider - like getting me a "virtual SIM" from the provider.
Would this then also mean that I could be multiple "virtual SIMs" so that I automatically can connect to multiple providers...
A - Multiple providers in the same country, as multi SIM phones allow today?
B - Multiple providers in different countries, as you do not need to swap anything, as you swap countries it automatically recognizes your provider from that country and "switches virtual SIM" to that country.
This article is about load of crap.
Only advantage the esim has is the little space it takes.
Otherwise, it's only a new way for carriers and manufacturers to controller/lock you. Probably track you and you won't be able to do anything, cuz it could be active even in airplane mode if the carrier / manufacturer permitted it. Which will happens , California already wants phones to be traceable even when they are turned off. And this is the way. No removable battries(which I don't mind) and now this.
I'd rather keep the current sim or they keep shrinking tjem, than this tracking chip.
Too bad we won't be able to stop it
guys why is there so much negativity in our mind sets its rare top get people posting productive stuff which is the actual reason for doing so....
Linas, 16 Oct 2017Well... Crapple "first" is always with caveats... same goes with eSIM - the first device ever ... moreThe concept of what the e-SIM does existed on iPad's and technically iPhone's since 2014.
Although the Apple SIM isn't embedded on the device, it offers the same functionality as the proposed e-SIM by allowing provisioning of a range of operator profiles.
Anonymous, 16 Oct 2017deal with it? slave mentally, accepting your loss of rights as if it is something that must be... moreAre you telling me that you read every product disclaimer and EULA and knowingly accept them? If so, you're a hypocrite because that's exactly what you're doing - giving away your privacy in exchange for the privilege to use someone's product.
So... DEAL. WITH. IT.
they should build smartphone which can be coded the telco so people no need to buy sim anymore
What I don't get is how much control do we, the users, have over our esim? Is it going to be like Sprint or Verizon, where you need to get permission to change carriers or unlock your phone? Or is it going to be like the unlocked phones that we have now, that give you complete control over your sim card and how often you can change your carrier?
Remember confusing micro-sim and nano-sim were first released? The iPhone 4 introduced micro-sim when most phones still had a mini-sim. Then just two years later, iPhone 5 introduced nano-sim when most Android flagships were still on mini or just starting with micro. My HTC One M7 and Note 3 in 2013 were still using micro. Using adapters were annoying and with often get stuck.
We don't need different standards every few years. It just confuses more users even more. Apple is supposed to be about simplicity when several of their own products uses different standards. Doesn't make sense that Apple would remove headphone jack but still keep it on MacBook Pro. Then still use Lightning Connector when everyone has gone USB-C including 12" MacBook since 2015.
Now Apple wants to eliminate Touch ID on iPhones next year for Face ID when they barely added it on MacBook Pro last year. The only thing they got right is using the Qi standard for wireless charging. You can actually charge your iPhone 8 at Starbucks next to your Android. Proprietary and different only divides and complicates. Cross-platform and more universal should be the way.
Anonymous, 16 Oct 2017It depends on carriers. For phone makers, the solution saves space, material and improves qual... morebut there is a lot of space every year components get smaller and smaller and phones bigger and bigger
everything above 5" has enough space for headphone jack,microsd, 2sim,3000mah and above, ir blaster, 2cameras and so on
just check there is some cheap 2.5" android phones with jack,microsd and 2sim
also go to ifixit and see some images of motherboards
OEMs keep removing stuff which were there before without a problem
Justus 2, 16 Oct 2017You sound pretty old school. Are you unhappy because you have to adapt to change? Honestly, t... moreOh I'm all for change, but meaningful useful change. I detest change for the sake of change, especially if it makes things worse and not better.
.alpha, 16 Oct 2017Apple was the first to Micro-SIM and Nano-SIM and will probably the first to full eSIM. Not li... moreWell... Crapple "first" is always with caveats... same goes with eSIM - the first device ever to use it was Samsung Gear S2 watch... now obviously ignorant crapple fans will go like "yeah that was product with tiny market share and nothing to compare with fabulous crapplephone selling millions of devices". There is part of truth in saying that Apple revolutionise the market, but that is not because they are first to introduce new features, but first to be noticed. Same here with eSIM - Samsung as first to introduce it... just fact, Google will be second, but Crapple will be remembered in history as "inventor". That is just a way it is...
Apple was the first to Micro-SIM and Nano-SIM and will probably the first to full eSIM. Not like any carrier can afford not to support iPhone
TiltPR, 16 Oct 2017eSim is only good for a countries where the people can pay for a contract plan, in the underde... more"when you traveled you was forced to use an expensive roaming plans."
that's the goal.
Next thing you will have a cucumber up your chutney channel and smartphone will be projected from all the way down up your eyes and ur helmet will be your simcard. smartcuc is the name of the device :)
man this monkey business is neverending. Same as apple being name the best smartphone when it first came up all the way till now - the most nonsence device that took 4 editions to get common sense phone functionality working i.e. call duration list of last called (more than 10) etc... era of sheep madness full of I this I that when there is no I at all. Sheepanity... Oh so sad Oh so sad. Yet more opportunity for diversification and decent businesses to come up to make proper stuff...
GO ONE PLUS, GO HUAWEI, GO XIAOMI, GO GO GO!!!!!
eSim is only good for a countries where the people can pay for a contract plan, in the underdeveloped countries, where the most of population still using prepaid plans, it wont be popular. In 2000s when brazilian carrier VIVO (a Verizon Wannabe), did use CDMA, was a pain in the as* change cellphone and they only sold locked cellphones, when you traveled you was forced to use an expensive roaming plans.