I own a Oneplus 5 and am looking at these results Vs the mate 10 pro because that's what I'm getting soon and although it shows the Oneplus 5 is higher I just remind myself that Oneplus cheat benchmarks
bob the builder, 22 Oct 2017Exynos 8895 has 20 cores, Kirin 970 has only 12 cores even though it's Mali g72. Snapdragon us... moreYour comment is baseless though funny. When the next gen of SD...like Huawei told you they would be quitting the chip business after Kirin 970 right?
Anonymous, 19 Oct 2017It's not enough, why? If The G-72 as 40% bump and more power than G-71 in the same conditions ... moreExynos 8895 has 20 cores, Kirin 970 has only 12 cores even though it's Mali g72. Snapdragon uses different gpu which is provided by AMD, it's called Adreno. So Kirin will fall behind as always when sd845 or next generation of exynos will get released, you will have outdated SoC whole 2018. Moreover, Kirin 970 based on cortex a73 and cortex 53(which was released in 2012), while upcoming SoCs will be based on cortex a75 and cortex a55. Kirin has npu, that's it, there is nothing outstanding about Kirin 970.
These numbers don't mean anything anymore !
I've seen countless youtube videos in which phones with x times more powerful CPU get wrecked by other phones in opening / switching apps .
The newest Iphone seems slower than note 8 for example , even though it shouldn't according to the huge CPU score .
Vegetaholic, 18 Oct 2017I completely agree, I really don't expected much from Kirin 970, knowing past, weak gpus and s... moreMight be better i CPU but the Next Exynos interaction if has the Mali G-72 MP20 at 546MHz it will be a draw. And Snapdragon 845 GPU will not be better. Even that i don't know, Kirin 970 with the AI capabilities, i don't know if will not be equal.
Vegetaholic, 18 Oct 2017Just go away with your flops, it is NOT faster, it just shows theoretical speed on single prec... moreIt's not enough, why? If The G-72 as 40% bump and more power than G-71 in the same conditions at the maximum frequency, why the Kirin 970 GPU can't have better performance than the Exynos 8895 GPU? The benchmarks as for the CPU as for the GPU aren't well optimized and the version of Huawe Mate 10 here used is a pre production unit, need refinements as in hardware as in software. Soon you will find out, you will see if what i say isn't true.
Mp12 GPU beating the mp20 GPU of Exynos. More GPU cores = more battery usage as well. So kirin is battery efficient, powerful flagship level, and as is well known the OS optimization and new NPU will once again beat the Apple and Samsung in real world usage.
Huawei during their presentation has already shown example of how its NPU helps power the CPU and GPU and beats the iPhone 8plus (by small margin though) and Samsung (by huge margin).
Anonymous, 18 Oct 2017only apple and mid-range mi fans shout about benchmarks in their respective segments, and resu... morethis benchmark is backs by number. and you say its not right based on what? your statement? you have your own test? any video? any proof?
dude, i'll take this numbers any day compare to your statement that says "this phone is the best, benchmark dont mean anything" rofl
Obi Wan Kenobi, 18 Oct 2017The CPU & Antutu benchmarks are kind of disappointing. After all that hype and boasting (5... moreI completely agree, I really don't expected much from Kirin 970, knowing past, weak gpus and similar to competition CPU performance. This year they managed to match, almost by performance on both fronts, but in couple of months it will be, as you said, wiped out with new exynos probably g72mp20 or better, and 845 by miles for sure
Flossy420, 18 Oct 2017I was talking about raw performance.
I know most 2017 android phones have better and much fas... moreIts just a stupid test. As someone posted here. Waiting one more second to load you game or app and cry for that is as stupid as having 4k screen on 4 inch display.
So the test reflect nothing but stupidity of people complaining everything.
Five Star, 18 Oct 2017Best Chipset this year is the Kirin 970 and Apple A11.A11 yes, Kirin is behind of 835 and exynos 8895
Anonymous, 18 Oct 2017No it is not faster than Kirin 970 GPU. You are totally wrong. And these benchmarks don't prov... moreJust go away with your flops, it is NOT faster, it just shows theoretical speed on single precision . You can see on benchmarks that g72mp12 lags behind and same with adreno 540, theoretically it hits 550 flops but is just little bit slower than g71mp20 on 8895. If you don't believe, run all the benchmarks You know or ps2 emulators, and g71mp20 will come on top of boths. You can compare flops on different architectures too, g71 and g72 comparing with 540 are build differently, so flops doesn't really count anymore. More cores are more important on g71 and g72 comparison. G72 has better video at architecture but 12 cores not enough to beat 20 of g71
Vegetaholic, 18 Oct 2017Well expected results, I was bashing this chip because of slow gpu, looks like I underestimate... moreNo it is not faster than Kirin 970 GPU. You are totally wrong. And these benchmarks don't prove nothing, they simply aren't optimized for run in this GPU. The Kirin 970 GPU is way much faster than the Exynos 8895 GPU. Remember that the GPU of Kirin 970 if you do the counts, has 592,2 GFlops and the Exynos 8895 GPU has only 371,2 GFlops.
Are this kind of tests are accurate and also the basis in concluding wether the phone is faster or not? I dont think so . I t can be bias also.
The CPU & Antutu benchmarks are kind of disappointing. After all that hype and boasting (5.5 billion transistors and all), people were expecting more. But the benchmarks are more or less similar to the the performance of flagships with SD 835/Exynos 8895 that was made available early this year. And let's forget about even challenging Apple.
And with SD 845 & the next Exynos expected to provide a bigger jump within a few months, the Kirin 970 of the Mate 10 and the upcoming P11 series will be left in the dust.
Anyways, the good take-away is that the GPU performance is stellar, much better than some of the 2017 flagships. And this is because the Mali G72 delivered on it's promises, improving upon the excellent G71. All this makes me more excited for the next flagship Exynos.
Cpt. Power, 18 Oct 2017Man i was one of them. Just for your information. Kirin 970 have 5 pins in other words in like... moreI was talking about raw performance.
I know most 2017 android phones have better and much faster charging speeds than iPhones (3 hrs+ from 0-100% is just unacceptable)
kaz, 18 Oct 2017are you dumb? It's a pre release unit and who said that benchmark is parameter of capability??... moreIn terms of raw performance?
No phone can beat iPhone and that's a fact.
The reason why IPhones are "" slow"" In speed test is because of animation speed.
Do a comparison between iPhone 8 and note 8 after 2 years and see who wins then.