Anonymous, 13 Nov 2017Yeah except apple is doing way worse than that, much further behind... except for more silicon... moreYeah, 10000 score on Geekbench multi-core, passive biometrics , the most accurate OLED in the world ( http://www.displaymate.com/iPhoneX_ShootOut_1a.htm ) are all stuff straight from the paleolithic ... oh wait, they're all examples of the highest of high tech ...
*exactly* the type of thing that Samsung used to produce (firsts in almost everything regarding phone hardware), pretty much what made her the No #1 on Android ... too sad to see them lag behind...
SwaggyP, 13 Nov 2017Maybe they did, Microsoft wins a lot of those too. I don't see them in products though which i... moreThis one is better so everything else in existence is crap.
Wow.... What astounding logic skills you have there
SwaggyP, 12 Nov 2017I'm not "you guys". Up until last year I called Samsung screens as the best... Heck I own a No... moreYeah except apple is doing way worse than that, much further behind... except for more silicon.... and not surpassing in display. And just them alone does not man others
Anonymous, 10 Nov 2017Samsung isn't apple...And Apple isnt a real brand.
They just copy from others and call it innovation.
What is new on Iphone device android runs long time ago.
SwaggyP, 11 Nov 2017The increase in raw performance up until 2016 was 40% per year.
Then Qualcomm happened and... moreMan i agree with you.
Days when they had something great to offer are gone.
Their sciencist are either unskilled or dont know what to do :-)
Anonymous, 12 Nov 2017Did you even read the article? Samsung won 36 awards for innovation. How many did apple win? W... moreMaybe they did, Microsoft wins a lot of those too. I don't see them in products though which is the important issue (Microsoft too is very innovative on paper, but never in practice).
Exynos 8895 was a pathetic attempt for a SoC and I'm afraid 9810 would continue that sad trend... let us see...
SwaggyP, 12 Nov 2017So what? Samsung has both the money and the manufacturing capability to create an equally big ... moreDid you even read the article? Samsung won 36 awards for innovation. How many did apple win? What have apple innovated in recent years and i don't mean just buying a company and using their existing tech. The fact you think apples screen is amazing when it's an old handme down from samsung is laughable. You can adjust the screen settings to be more accurate in android but the fact is most people prefer the "oversaturated" look.
zamroni, 12 Nov 2017Apple's cpu die is physically larger than exynos and snapdragon. It contains much more transis... moreSo what? Samsung has both the money and the manufacturing capability to create an equally big chip. Would also help them with creating an actually useful deep-learning AI system instead of pretend AI that nobody uses (Bixby).
Instead what Samsung went and done? They pre-ordered the whole first batch from that god-awful talentless company (Qualcomm). They.don't.learn. I mean Samsung chips used to *kill* Qualcomm chips, all they do these days is match Snapdragon's pitiful performance. If that's not a giant step back I don't know what is.
I'm not going to support a company that has the capacity to be innovative (and indeed she was in the past) but instead elects to do the bare minimum and even takes some of her innovations back... I.still.don't.get why they do not create a chip of their own like Huawei so that to have a complete control of both software and hardware. They have money, apparently they lack the brains...
Dude1111, 11 Nov 2017Again, where did those numbers come from?
Special benchmarks? Inside data from the companie... moreNeither of these sources. basically.
and I just mean the GFlops count. I know that in the normal benchmark these 20 cores are way faster. but when comparing pure numbers its the opposite.
SwaggyP, 12 Nov 2017I'm not "you guys". Up until last year I called Samsung screens as the best... Heck I own a No... moreApple's cpu die is physically larger than exynos and snapdragon. It contains much more transistors to achieve such performance gain.
3D touch? Samsung built-in in keyboard and most non free Android keyboards are swiping keyboards so vibration will ruin the user experience. I uses Swype in Android. I tried Swype in ios once and it is terrible.
Anonymous, 11 Nov 2017Oh the same display mate which you guys derided when it awarded Samsung best display for 3 yea... moreI'm not "you guys". Up until last year I called Samsung screens as the best... Heck I own a Note 4 partly for that reason (best Screen of its time, and close to best up until now).
Then again Screen technology is one of the many things that Samsung grew stale, so others suprassed her.
Remember the time when Samsung was first in ram amount, first in processing power (Exynos 5433 deliciousness), first in screen quality, best camera first in battery (removable), first in function (pen, IR)? Yeah, that was Note 4 ... then Samsung dropped some goose eggs allowed the competition to approach her and eventually suprass her. I still own a Note 4 *because of* how great it was (it's my phablet of choice).
By now Apple plays the role that Samsung used to have. First in processing power (by far), second best camera (behind XL2 alone), best screen in the world, first in function (3D touch, gestures and depth ID), third best in screen-on-time (behind only V30 and OnePlus 5) ... see where I'm going with this?
Either we start bashing Samsung mercilessly to get her act together , or it disappears in a sea of irrelevancy ... the last 2-3 years were disastrous for Samsung. How can you support a sinking ship? If you're truly a fan *demand changes*...
Whatever how power Exynos GPU is, its stil behind Qualqomm GPU due compatibility. #Snapdragon
Kiyasariin, 11 Nov 2017This us why I said Exynos has the upper hand when it comes to CPU prowess. but not in GPU. and... moreNonsense, g71mp20 is faster than 540, check major benchmarks, especially in very demanding basemark es 3.1 which comes on top of 540, same in basemark x, and it comes on top on ps2 emulators. It just faster, but not by much, in general exynos 8895 is fastest smarthpone soc imandroid worlsin CPU and in gpu, sorry your flops does not mean Nothing, cause they both use different architecture
so its coming s9 will be like renamed s8 whit:
1) same 10 nm chip well added word 2nd generation :) but still same 10 nm process. not 7 etc.
2) of course same infinity display.
3) most waited... correct finger print sensor position.
and finally price tag.... believe will be bigger then s8 when released :(
SwaggyP, 11 Nov 2017It has the best display in the world according to actual hard numbers: http://www.displaymate.... moreOh the same display mate which you guys derided when it awarded Samsung best display for 3 years in a row. Even now display is Samsung BTW
Also the same Dxo you derided when iphone was distant no 4 after s7, u ultra and pixel?
Kiyasariin, 11 Nov 2017Yes. this is my source of GPU preformance:
in Mali: scroll all the way to G71. and see for yo... moreAgain, where did those numbers come from?
Special benchmarks? Inside data from the companies? Wet dreams?
I mean, isnt it weird that GPUs supposedly waaaaaay weaker than the high-end adreno can match it on game benchmarks? And no, optimization will not give you more than 15%
And what is more intriguing, no other site talks about gflops on mobile chips...