Anonymous, 10 Nov 2017Try with something normal like AOSP or Lineage (on One+ preferably) instead & things will ... moreNo, benchmarks proof it and even real comparisons, like how iPhone 8 slaughtered Pixel 2
Nzi97, 10 Nov 2017problem is, apple has huge budget on chip and since every iPhone is guaranteed to sell, they c... moreThe part with the processor that they can invest there is right, but your other points donÂ‘t really match
Screen: On iPhone 8 and 8 Plus, but not on X. I mean they have to pay double because of Samsung tax. If they wanted to save money, they just would use an LCD or an inferior OLED.
RAM amount: yes, itÂ‘s not really important but they do so, while others like Sony and Samsung also started to do this.
Headphone jack: I donÂ‘t think those few pennies do matter. ItÂ‘s mostly to save space, push forward wireless as well as licensing their lightning port to many companies and also selling the AirPods.
Software: totally wrong. The iPhones do get at least 5 years of official support, no other phone manufacturer does this. If they wanted to save money, they would let the phone die quietly after 2 years like for example Samsung. ThatÂ‘s also the reason why mid range and low end phones get few to none updates.
krystian, 10 Nov 2017Real world side by side tests against s8 show the iphone 8 being way quicker opening apps and ... moreTry with something normal like AOSP or Lineage (on One+ preferably) instead & things will change dramatically.
the Only Oracle, 10 Nov 20172 Fundamental Issues with the Snapdragon 835, with regard to ISP are: 1. I couldn't do 4k at ... moreWell currently HiSilicon Kirin 970 is actually most advanced one as it contains Tensilica vision P6 DSP that is much more advanced than Hexagon QDSP's. QDSP actually never had much chance with closed source resources only. Same story goes for Apple. I don't know what Samsung uses (probably either CEVA or Tensilica IP's).
xXENDER FREAKXx, 10 Nov 2017It is the truth...if Apple decides to have faster animations and transitions as fast as stock ... moreReal world side by side tests against s8 show the iphone 8 being way quicker opening apps and switching apps. The s8 falls way behind. I believe even against iphone 7 too.
Apple makes great chips but they need a serious competitor. Qualcomm has been trying for too long with nothing coming out of it. I was slightly hopeful with Samsungs chip but nothing has happened either. It would be nice if MS started making their own chips. They already do a lot of chip work for servers and ai based stuff. They have some great talent.
xXENDER FREAKXx, 10 Nov 2017Yes it is true that the A11 Bionic chipset is crushing the Single-Core and Multi-Core benchmar... moreWell launching apps from storage (NAND) compared to prepatching them from RAM is two orders of magnitude (100x). The 2x faster CPU will result in 20~25% faster start of an app which is something that you won't be able to feel. On the other hand re initialising it from 100x faster feed (RAM) will be 7~8 times faster which is noticeable of course. iOS doesn't suspend apps in RAM while every Linux (Android) does. So we do still need more & faster RAM which is lo latency. Future will bring HBM along with liquid tank scheduling model to mobile (hopefully as software/apps are ridiculously unoptimised regardless of platform).
F1rstman , 10 Nov 2017I have this strange feeling that youÂ’re not speaking the truth. Snapdragon 835 is even slower... moreIt is the truth...if Apple decides to have faster animations and transitions as fast as stock ANDROID then u would see that the A11 is the faster one am I correct? I am not even lying, it is because of their animations and transitions that makes the chipset feel slower than u expect
xXENDER FREAKXx, 10 Nov 2017Yes it is true that the A11 Bionic chipset is crushing the Single-Core and Multi-Core benchmar... moreI have this strange feeling that youÂ’re not speaking the truth. Snapdragon 835 is even slower than the A9 processor in 6S Plus from 2015.
Samsung usin a 1.2gbps modem? wow! check the mate 10 pro and see if its a world first....lol
zodiacfml, 10 Nov 2017yawn... wake me up when 7nm arrives.7nm wont be ready until all SoC maker familiar with ARM DynamiQ Tech where Quad Core SoC made in single cluster compared to current SoC 10nm made in 2 cluster.. I dont think Exynos 9810 & next SD845 will use A75 + A55..
Iran Terres, 10 Nov 2017You definitely doesn't know what you're talking about. Check the reviews! Apple's CPU wipes... moreYes it is true that the A11 Bionic chipset is crushing the Single-Core and Multi-Core benchmark, but in real life, when people use normal day-to-day apps, it definitely feels slower than smartphones with SNAPDRAGON 835, even if they have such a big advantage in both Single-Core and Multi-Core benchmarks, mainly, because of IOS 11. The brand new IOS 11 feels much more heavily customized than previous IOS versions, and I am not joking, the transitions feels smoother, but it also feels much slower, which makes in the end the SNAPDRAGON 835 smartphones open apps at a faster rate, since those SNAPDRAGON 835 powered smartphones have faster transitions than this. Moreover, average people who don't look at all of these wouldn't even care about benchmarks
Iran Terres, 10 Nov 2017You definitely doesn't know what you're talking about.
Check the reviews! Apple's CPU wipes... moreAww I don't know that aww, damn Ifans stop acting like a meh , but Bwahaha what is the use of geekbench score if the device isn't performing in real life.
Bwahaha ROFL you must watch this in-game speed test "the worlds fastest processor Defeated by half the price Sony Xperia z" https://youtu.be/djmzNK8cN7M
Okay dare to reply
Anonymous, 10 Nov 2017I second your adaptive/dynamic/variable refresh rate tech suggestion. Why limit it to 120Hz wh... more120Hz is better.
Its double the 60Hz frequency. Or quadruple the 30Hz frequency. Or x5 increase from 24fps.
It just plays nicer.
Besides, heavy graphical content will always find it easier to hit 120fps rather than 144fps.
I like how all of Apple's devices use 120Hz for the touchscreen, to minimise the input lag of your finger. But a few of Apple's new devices actually have the screen rendering at the 120Hz frequency natively, which is actually, better than the Razer Phone that "can" go up to 120Hz but mostly uses adaptive synchronisation (like G-Sync) between the two.
I hope Samsung takes this approach with their displays in 2019.
Because they're already quite dark, vivid, accurate, thin, and bright... they just lack that slight instant lagless "pop" when interacting with them. In fact, I'm not a fan of excess 500ppi density or weird aspect ratios... I'd prefer a standard 16:9 with a simple 1080p resolution as it provides 100% of the same viewing quality, only at cheaper price, less GPU load, higher battery life. The only place where the quality is less, is with VR Headsets, but in such circumstances I rather not use a phone for VR, but rather have a dedicated VR Headset instead connected to a console/PC.
2 Fundamental Issues with the Snapdragon 835, with regard to ISP are:
1. I couldn't do 4k at 60p.
2. It couldn't do 240p 1080p video.
While the Exynos 8890 can do 4k @ 120p, because some S8 and Note 8 have Exynos and others Snapdragon SoCs, all devices were limited in terms of Many Video and Photo Capabilities.
That is ALSO the Sole Reason NONE of the Android Flagship Phones have 4k @60p (they all use Snapdragon 835 SoCs).
I HOPE Samsung makes 2 Versions of the S9 and Note 9.
1 with Atleast 60p, super high speed video, and Super HDR.
And one Version with the Snapdragon 845.
Also I hope they become the First Smartphone to record 4-2-2 10-bit video. The LG promised it on the V30, but that was untrue.
Ooh GDDR6! And NVMe SSD at 500TB/s speeds?!? Gimme NOW!
Okay no it's abused but still cool.
And 6CA is coming next year in Can, as always.
Wills blanket1, 10 Nov 2017ROFL
Already A11 chip is losing to Current EXYNOS and SD835 Stock Android version.And off I ... moreYou definitely doesn't know what you're talking about.
Check the reviews! Apple's CPU wipes the floor on single and multi-threaded performance.
Anonymous, 10 Nov 2017I second your adaptive/dynamic/variable refresh rate tech suggestion. Why limit it to 120Hz wh... moreRight! Playing with my S8 by scrolling the app drawer makes me roll my eyes when they say it is smooth. I guess they're referring to no-stuttering or slow downs but animation is never smooth to me.