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  • Auouywons
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  • 15 Nov 2017

Face recogniton is the least secure for me, even if it senses depth, because face has the most possibility to changes among them(fingerprint, iris), and it has more vulnerability against people, probably, closest to someone. And dont forget that fingerprint recognition is faster and more convenient(wherever the position) than face recognition.

By the removal of touchID, apple really went for maximum cost cutting and maximum profit by charging 1000$+ when iphone x can have both of them. And please dont tell me that animoji helps faceid to justify itself for having more uses while provide you the security that you need, please.

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    • AnonD-696542
    • rJG
    • 15 Nov 2017

    Anonymous, 15 Nov 2017Is there anything the friends of Malik family can say about cheating? Let me get this right... moreJust one question,, who are you trying to defend by that long essay and who are you trying to fool? You don't work for Apple right?? The world knows iris scanners are more secure than face, 3d face, or other drama that's why they are used by govt agencies as your eyes are just your eyes, even your family members can't have same eyes.. There was a news a few days ago that one company had found ear unlocking, you just need to put an earphone inside your ear and it'll unlock the device by your unique ear pattern,, my reaction was like why we need to put an earphone when better tech already exists, Apple did something like this, companies should invest in meaningful new innovations. Iris and fingerprint are simpler, more secure and easy to implement. Why one need to invest in stupid tech like an earphone to unlock or a swipe up after face unlock which can be bypassed by your family members easily

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      • kiki
      • mcu
      • 15 Nov 2017

      "Anyway, it seems that you need to be careful when first setting up FaceID. Doing it indoor at night can mess with the accuracy. When the mom set up FaceID again (in good light this time), Ammar was no longer able to fool the phone."

      FaceID was said to use infrared dot projectors and sensors to create a 3D map of the users face. How then does visible light affects it setting up?? Since when did visible light start interfering with infrared light??

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        • Anonymous
        • U{7
        • 15 Nov 2017

        Alien , 15 Nov 2017Yeah, but your iris is in some database somewhere, maybe going to be used for God knows what :... moreCorrection: a *hash* of your biometric info would be stored *on the device*. Therefore, the attack vector would be different from what you are imagining.

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          • Anonymous
          • t7$
          • 15 Nov 2017

          Peter-B, 15 Nov 2017FaceID technically supports only one face (though as the case of the brothers shows, it's poss... moreIs there anything the friends of Malik family can say about cheating?

          Let me get this right but here are givens:
          FaceID technically supports only "registering" one face (as you say); FaceID can be recalibrated by using the PIN to unlock the phone a few times (as with the case of the pair of brothers); It is not detailed in the video nor in this article that only the mom knew her own PIN (but, all right, one could assume so and that she hasn't shared it with someone else. Anyway, who in a security-eccentric individual's mind would ever share their PIN to anyone even via a whisper. I'm not automatically nor necessarily saying the mom is a security-eccentric person to no offense. But, all right, one could assume she is merely to acknowledge the effort of uploading a video concerning the phone's security); Her son, Ammar, doesn't know her PIN.

          What the fine print does not say is that the phone could still have been recalibrated by Ammar's mom entering the PIN for him in hidden sight? The post-ipso-facto or the aftermath of it all, they could claim that Ammar still does not know his mom's PIN after recalibration.

          TL;DR: Ammar does not need to know his mom's PIN to recalibrate his mom's FaceID. His mom could just enter the PIN a couple times for him.

          Also, they don't look too different from each other. Cute

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            • AnonD-426311
            • iEq
            • 15 Nov 2017

            This is so embarrassing !!?? Apple what's up? Once again somebody just spent lot of money and time and now you are robbing it back from customer by selling sluggish features...

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              • AnonD-66956
              • gM$
              • 15 Nov 2017

              This is new feature called iFamily unlock. Just google it. Introduced by Apple in recent update.

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                • AnonD-684631
                • sSf
                • 15 Nov 2017

                Devil GK, 15 Nov 2017Proud to be an Samsung User ... Iris Scanner can't be fooled like this Shit...Ikr , iris scanner and finger print sensor in NOTE 8 Defenitely thrash iPhoneX in security

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                  • Alien
                  • ndn
                  • 15 Nov 2017

                  Devil GK, 15 Nov 2017Proud to be an Samsung User ... Iris Scanner can't be fooled like this Shit...Yeah, but your iris is in some database somewhere, maybe going to be used for God knows what :))
                  First it was fingerprint, then face unlock, then iris. What next? You want a sample of my dna too?
                  Has anyone seen Idiocracy? I feel I'm in that movie by each passing day..
                  When will the invasion ever come?

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                    • AnonD-141584
                    • 3H9
                    • 15 Nov 2017

                    That kid looks nothing like his mum.

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                      • AnonD-141584
                      • 3H9
                      • 15 Nov 2017

                      I read the story about woman who got into her husbands phone, whilst he was a sleep and used his finger. She found out he was having an affair...... They were on a Qatar flight at the time.... and it was force to land, because the woman went absolutely mental.

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                        • Bewildered
                        • LaT
                        • 15 Nov 2017

                        AnonD-392500, 15 Nov 2017This case is just the tip of iceberg. This is just marketing and how much Face id is better than the previous security, with that comes the price hike

                        App advertising is to create desire, Apple adverts don't have spoken words detailing specs, you see the function in use

                        The best example is the world dominating Apple Watch which Imo is totally unnecessary if you have an IPhone already, or any phone, so you never see the person having an iPhone already.

                        Look my phones do not have touch id.
                        One phone temporarily locks the phone fir increasing periods for wrong password attempts, albeit 8 digits possible 1x 10^8 combination
                        After 5 attempts you are locked out for 2 minutes, wrong attempts 5 minutes, you cannot simply keep entering numbers, mire attempt 10 minute look out

                        Blackberry 10 attempts wipe the phone so protects data

                        Pattern unlock locks the phone to the Gmail account, pattern lock is a red rag to a bull, I.e teenagers
                        Apple sell your face unlocks the phone does not make other security redundant, but 25% price hike shows Apple maybe we should roll this out

                        We now have face id security fails as if it is big news, my security is not compromised

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                          • Anonymous
                          • YQJ
                          • 15 Nov 2017

                          AnonD-368020, 15 Nov 2017They should have put touch ID in power button like Sony. But nooooo.. that would have made it ... moreWell, they are used to iOS, so they are already primed to work around inconveniences..

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                            • Gauron
                            • LKm
                            • 15 Nov 2017

                            AnonD-563937, 15 Nov 2017how about an accident where both of your arms are gone ... face id would be more convenient th... moreIf both your arms are gone in an accident, then your phone is the lest of your worries

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                              • AnonD-368020
                              • XQh
                              • 15 Nov 2017

                              They should have put touch ID in power button like Sony. But nooooo.. that would have made it more convenient for users. And iPhone users are not used to convenience. They like to carry unique chargers, audio jack extensions, airpod boxes and what not and it's the inconveniences which makes them feel special.

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                                • Devil GK
                                • X%7
                                • 15 Nov 2017

                                Proud to be an Samsung User ...
                                Iris Scanner can't be fooled like this Shit...

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                                  • AnonD-563937
                                  • rn3
                                  • 15 Nov 2017

                                  Tann Hauser, 15 Nov 2017Of course, if phone screen smashed you cant even use pin. But, with a fingerprint scanner on... morehow about an accident where both of your arms are gone ... face id would be more convenient then hhhhhh

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                                    • jtrogr
                                    • dPU
                                    • 15 Nov 2017

                                    Be Nice To Others, 15 Nov 2017Or maybe, a smart consumer would just spend on a Samsung, HTC, Huawei, Asus, Xiaomi, or Sony h... moreAnd the samsung costs lik 800 euros new and after half a year you can get it for 400 and get earphones, wireless charger, case and a Xperia for free.

                                    So much about value

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                                      • Alien
                                      • ndn
                                      • 15 Nov 2017

                                      Poor sheeple... They had one thing to brag about and now that's gone too..
                                      By the way, my 2013 Sony has face unlocking too, but I decided to delete it.

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                                        • Be Nice To Others
                                        • Kg{
                                        • 15 Nov 2017

                                        Gid, 15 Nov 2017Apple is a joke. Biggest scammers ever. Fingerprint ID ftw.Fingerprint Scanner was a success (not perfect during its first debut, but as a security biometric, it indeed is a very secured feature).

                                        We don't want Tim Cook. Bring back Steve Jobs, and build another smartphone brand that's truly innovative, creative, productive, and most of all; consumer-friendly.

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