Reading this while listening to music on my phone and charging it at the same time
While also searching for decent bluetooth earbuds (not in-ear), but finding none.
So you can take my 3.5mm jack when you pry it out of my cold dead hands.
Anonymous, 20 Nov 2017The problem we have is the majority of people tend to only want "cheap and cheerful" headphone... moreHeadphones can get cheaper, but not everyone will get used to the fact, that you have to buy up to three headphones (If you have android phone with usb-c, iPad and Laptop).
And the fact, you can't use your headphone on your friends phone.
So adapter will be the way to go. till wireless audio gets better.
FinnishInquisition, 19 Nov 2017I've heard others believe there's some sort of nanocoating as well, but that's simply not true... more3.5 jacks on waterproof phones have either silicon glue or a rubber sealing.
In Sony's case it's silicon glue, and it's pretty sticky, making water entry impossible from that point. Still on the size part? ok handsome, so if size was the issue, i didn't see any headphone jack on ip7+. It is considerably larger than the regular ip.
Bigger batteries? no again. Sony xz1c has a 2700mah battery (much bigger than the ip7's, but it's still smaller than ip7), so you clearly see apple just wanted another way cash more. it's all over the internet.
Water resistance doesn't have to do with size at all. You see xz1c being small and have a headphone jack. it's waterproof and has a huge battery for its size.
Only Apple and Apple wanna-be do not use it anymore,rest of the world will ..
The problem we have is the majority of people tend to only want "cheap and cheerful" headphones when they're out and about. Before they change over to type-C headphone companies will have to have replacements there and ready. Getting people used to buying them rather than the 3.5mm. I sell alot of headphones and iphone users tend to buy a 3.5mm adapter with £5 headphones.
I can't use a phone with out 3.5mm jack, like u try to convince me, the disadvantages is higher than the one with 3.5mm jack, HTC 10 is my last HTC phone to use, when ditch things out, they are something u can't ditch away, I prefer lg than any other phone for now but I don't like the size, is two big for me, that is y I like Sony compact.
Anonymous, 20 Nov 2017So what about the actual example i gave? 6+ and 7+? Not convenient?
And what about all the ot... moreIt's a bad comparison you're trying to make since there's a 2 year generational gap, during which Apple implemented a massive haptic feedback motor ("Taptic Engine"). In other words, it's a dishonest comparison.
And would you please name a device that kept the same dimensions but increased in battery capacity, please?
I can give you some power densities corrected for volume instead if you wish. Apple increased their battery capacity per volume by 14.4 % (ditched 3.5), HTC increased by 2 % (ditched 3.5), Samsung decreased by 3.4 % (kept 3.5), Sony stayed exactly the same (kept 3.5). Only LG managed to increase their capacity while keeping the 3.5 mm port, but ditched things such as the swappable accessories gimmick, removable backs, secondary displays and user-replaceable batteries instead.
Anonymous, 20 Nov 2017It's all Apple and their customers' fault. And I lost a whole chunk of my comment because it d... moreYep. It started with the fist iPhone. It didn't even have GPS or 3G, yet their (cult)followers couldn't care less. They never do or even cheer Apple on for some of their anti-consumer moves.
It's all Apple and their customers' fault. And I lost a whole chunk of my comment because it didn't pass the moderator.
FinnishInquisition, 20 Nov 2017And they still can use wired headphones with USB-C. Why is this so hard for some people to und... moreSo what about the actual example i gave? 6+ and 7+? Not convenient?
And what about all the other manufacturers who increased battery size without ditching the 3.5mm? Or HTC who did not increase battery size when they ditched the 3.5mm (Except for one model and common sense tells me it's indeed not because of the removal of 3.5mm).
Anonymous, 20 Nov 2017Funny, watching people around me i see at least 70% using wired headphones (And the ones using... moreAnd they still can use wired headphones with USB-C. Why is this so hard for some people to understand...
As for the removal of the port from iPhones;
6S → 7: -3.5 mm port, +IP67, +245 mAh battery, exact same dimensions
6S Plus → 7 Plus: -3.5 mm port, +IP67, +150 mAh battery, exact same dimensions
Now what were you saying about having the same battery but being slimmer? Battery capacity certainly depend on many things, and the size of other components in the device is one of them - the 3.5 mm port included.
You wish its days are coming to an end.
I know for a fact that many people will not buy a smartphone without a 3.5 mm jack, including me of course. There is absolutely no reason for companies to remove the 3.5 mm jack apart from making even more money on accessories.
The best headphones in the world are 3.5 mm as do a vast majority of high end audio equipment. Many of us have thousands of dollars worth of audio equipment based on the 3.5 standard and love the convenience of using our smartphone as an audio hub.
Removing the 3.5 mm is a highly anti consumer friendly move and doesnt benefit anybody apart from the company itself.
Will never buy or even consider a phone without one.
FinnishInquisition, 20 Nov 2017The average consumers is exceptionally average. That's why it's called an "average consumer". ... moreFunny, watching people around me i see at least 70% using wired headphones (And the ones using bluetooth doesn't mean don't use the jack at some point).
As for the battery being bigger due to removing of 3.5mm, it's complete BS as i mentioned earlier. Iphone6+ with the 3.5mm jack has the same battery and is slimmer than 7+ without the jack. Not to mention battery size depends on many other things. But the 3.5mm jack is certainly not one of them.
Prometheous, 20 Nov 2017The quicker you realize that the average consumer is not actually average, the better it is. M... moreThe average consumers is exceptionally average. That's why it's called an "average consumer". I think you'll find most people just want the same things; nice designs, good screen, fluid experience, decent camera.
I don't know where you got the idea that battery sizes aren't increasing. They're on a pretty steady rise, while the internal components become more and more energy efficient. There's a weigh-off there where they need to give a device a good battery life while also giving it an as sleek design as possible.
Samsung, LG and Sony certainly don't provide "everything". They all have their trade-offs. But more to the point, the volume saved by removing the port is somewhere around 900-1000 mm³, which is equivalent of some 150-200 mAh of battery, or a marginally slimmer device. It's not overwhelmingly much, but it makes a difference. When manufacturers try to find just about any way to slim down the device or provide better internals, the components that see the least use or have their functions doubled up needs to go first. In this case it's the 3.5 mm port that sees reduced use and already has its function doubled by the USB-C port.
dex, 20 Nov 2017If it was not for the fact the article is just someone's opinion put to writing, i would term ... moreXiaomi ditched the jack in their flagship and several (At least one) other models. Huawei ditched it in Mate 10 pro.
Prometheous, 20 Nov 2017The quicker you realize that the average consumer is not actually average, the better it is. M... moreYea and SOC's are being built on smaller and smaller nanometer processes. Sim slots became nano. They also "invented" another idiocy - the hybrid slot, ditching dedicated sd slots left and right (And Apple never had any). And yet we are to believe space is a problem. Apple is even using two batteries, which wastes even more space.
If it was not for the fact the article is just someone's opinion put to writing, i would term this a bullshit piece. Save for Apple, Motorola and Google with their 2017 flagship, most every other manufacturer still retain the 3-5 mm audio port on most if not all their devices: Samsung, LG, Sony, Huawei, Xiaomi and most others, though they have introduced USB audio ports in a few of their models i see no indication of the 3.5 mm jack on the decline.
Anonymous, 20 Nov 2017"Furthermore you also get more advanced and powered features with USB-C, such as active noise ... moreOnly powered headphones can have active noise cancellation. In other words, you'd need batteries for all such headphones except USB-C variants.
And yes, the equalizer can be built into the media player. The function is the same. The advantage of having it integrated into headphones is that your can have presets for the particular headphones in question, and it'll work on all devices you plug them into. No more having to switch around equalizer settings depending on which headphones you use, or which device you use them with.
FinnishInquisition, 20 Nov 2017Ask the average consumer, and you'll find next to nobody is using more than one port at a time... moreThe quicker you realize that the average consumer is not actually average, the better it is. Manufacturers keep increasing the size of devices without increasing the battery size and yet cite space constraint as the reason. There are manufacturers who waste lots and lots of space but end up removing the headphone jack (read htc). And then there are manufacturers like sony, Samsung and lg who provide everything and yet manage to retain the jack. I am definitely not falling for this stupid "space constraint" logic for sure.