Anonymous, 20 Nov 2017No, it makes zero sense, actually, exactly because "USB-C ports that can be used for a hundred... moreAsk the average consumer, and you'll find next to nobody is using more than one port at a time on modern devices. It's simply wasteful on a portable and pocketable device to include even more ports, when they hardly see any use.
Niche users that need more things plugged in on the regular can, as I've said, use splitters. The USB-C port is powerful enough to accept multiple two-way connections.
Anonymous, 20 Nov 2017You're wrong.. Smart devices should have everything integrated into the device and that is inc... moreThe way you wrote your argument makes me think you've missed one of the main reasons for the removal of the 3.5 mm port. The USB-C port can do everything the 3.5 mm port can do, and more. It'd be more like removing a secondary e-paper screen on your device because your primary OLED screen can already do everything the secondary screen does. Or removing a 3.5" floppy disk drive because your USB flash memory can already do everything the floppy disks can, and more.
The idea isn't to use dongles and adapters for everything, but to switch to USB-C headphones for portable audio.
Also, having everything built-in is a bit over the top. We already don't have things like full-sized USB-A ports or physical keyboards built in. It'd ruin the portability, looks and increase the cost of an already costly device. To think we should include all sorts of ports even if only a handful use them is to ask too much. It's better if people who use a certain function (such as a 3.5 mm port) simply buy a device that's tailored to their needs, instead of demanding all phones should include whatever function it is they demand.
FinnishInquisition, 19 Nov 2017At what point did I claim 3.5 mm ports on laptops was impossible? I'm just saying that our lap... moreNo, it makes zero sense, actually, exactly because "USB-C ports that can be used for a hundred things" and yet there is just one port, so when you need to plug more than one thing, there's a huge problem with that concept.
I avoid using Bluetooth headsets, for health reason. I also turn off Wi-fi. My router wi-fi is turned off. So I connect via wired only. Although, I turn it on manually when needed.
The problem is that we are all using mobiles phones, wi-fi, bluetooth. Whilst the risks are low, but every little bit adds to that risk.
More research needs to be done. For some people, taking the risk is worth it, for the convenience....
"Furthermore you also get more advanced and powered features with USB-C, such as active noise cancellation and integrated equalizers, to name some."
So, only usb-c headphones can have active noise canceling? and equalizer? I thought equalizer is integrated within the mediaplayer itself
FinnishInquisition, 19 Nov 2017The USB-C port was actually built with durability in mind. It's rated for a minimum of 10 000 ... moreBest of all comment, based on sensible common sense and technicality parts.
FinnishInquisition, 19 Nov 2017At what point did I claim 3.5 mm ports on laptops was impossible? I'm just saying that our lap... moreIt doesn'make more sense exactly because it can be used for "hundred things" but it's only one. USB is used for hundred things too. That' s why there's always more than one usb port. But in a phone more usb_c ports is impractical, of course. Usb-c+3.5mm is much better
This is all Apple's fault. When they remove useful things, iSheep still buy from them in droves. Other manufacturers see that Apple can get away with it and start to copy their disgusting business model. The only way customers can fight back is to let these companies see that sales suffer when they remove a useful feature and sales improve when these features are included. It worked when Samsung removed the SD card in S6, because Samsung customers are a discerning lot. Can't say the same for Apple customers.
FinnishInquisition, 19 Nov 2017At what point did I claim 3.5 mm ports on laptops was impossible? I'm just saying that our lap... moreYou're wrong.. Smart devices should have everything integrated into the device and that is including the DAC.. By your logic the next thing to go will be the loud speaker(Hey who needs a timid built in loudspeaker when we can select our own external speaker?) Next the battery(Who needs a fattening internal battery when we can select our own external battery brick?) and finally the screen(You can buy whatever screen size you like, amoled or lcd, 16:9 or 21:9)..........
It's stupendously stupid. A smart device is ALL built in. No dongles. No adapters
Without a headphone jack, there will be no antenna for an analog FM radio. Ergo, the death of the headphone jack will also be the end of listening to analog FM radio over your smartphone. Phone manufacturers want users to use mobile data instead for FM radio, increasing phone battery drain (and data use). Also, phone manufacturers want users to buy bluetooth headphones/earbuds that need to be charged regularly, to listen to music/watch movies. Bluetooth earbuds/headphones with non-removable batteries will be updated regularly as once the battery has lost capacity, you throw them away. Connecting your mobile phone to amplifier/speaker/audio systems now require you to bring a usb to audio jack adapter. So much for the convenience of the future... or is it about more things to sell, more things to buy with planned obsolescence. Technological advancement or greed? It's up to the user to decide.
Denis Thomas, 19 Nov 2017What does my choice of wanting everything from a phone means im a caveman?
ADo you even think... moreMan in present era phones having non removable batteries.
Did you care? No you still use your phone so even without jack you will stop care because its something you cant do anything with that.
So my comment was right.
There will come a time when the 3.5mm headphone jack will be obsolete. But it definitely shouldn't be within the near future (for phones and other devices). As someone here said, it's just creating a problem to a solution. Saying that it's because the future is wireless is just another BS reason to make things proprietary and create more $$$ for companies.
Removing the headphone jack only creates more wear on the USB-C or the Lightning Port causing earlier failure. It's worse when we have phone when the Port is soldered on plenty of parts causing more expensive repairs.
Brands like Apple only removed it to make more $$$ by selling Apple Certified accessories because of the royalties for the Lightning connector. Their excuse that they need it to make the phone water resistant and make a bigger battery is plain BS because other brands like Sony and Samsung managed to make their phones water resistant but they still have the headphone jack.
Bluetooth headphones are only band-aid solution. Instead of having one thing to charge (the phone itself), you now have to charge two devices (phone + bluetooth headphones, three if it has a charging case). Plus audio quality is still not as good as wired headphones.
Sometimes I listen music/podcasts through the earphones while I'm charging the phone.
Gratefully, my iPhone SE still can do that. I'll miss the 3.5mm jack if it's gone.
FinnishInquisition, 19 Nov 2017It's the third time I'm having to point this out in this comment section now; just because one... moreIt's not equivalent to the floppy disk at all. I remember when the floppy was phased out, pretty much no one was using them by the time computers started leaving them out. With wired headphones though I see almost everyone still using them in their phones, and people who have new iPhones use the dongle instead of Bluetooth. They're far too widely used still for it to be a good idea to phase them out.
FinnishInquisition, 19 Nov 2017No. Modern waterproofed smartphones aren't using any nanocoating. They use the traditional sea... more Pfft... seriously kid, look up Moto G. Samsung s5 too.
that's your own personal opinion on aesthetics. Doesn't justify the need to remove the headphone jack. And to say that Apple can't do (or even BUY) what other manufacturers can, is just making fun of Apple now...
but ok, lets agree to disagree. I can't even. LOL
Be Nice To Others, 19 Nov 2017The matter of fact is that we can have both, so why should we compromise something?
Give us... moreIt's the third time I'm having to point this out in this comment section now; just because one manufacturer can do something doesn't mean everyone can. Sony have been working on waterproofed smartphones for nearly a decade due to an early strong demand in the Japanese market. It'd be disappointing if their experience and patents didn't place them in front other manufacturers in this area.
Your "proof" of why Apple's claims are "bogus" falls flat as Apple themselves demonstrated they could achieve +245 mAh and IP67 after removing the port in the exact same chassis volume.
Apple are just leading the pack again, like they did with the removal of 3.5" floppy disk drives.
FinnishInquisition, 19 Nov 2017Why are you comparing two completely separate brands? Do you think something one brand can do,... moreSo you're trying to say that Sony is much more capable of building better quantity phones than Apple?
The points I gave are to prove why Apple's point of removing the headphone jack is bogus. The Apple I knew back was something innovative and always leads in the game, yet somehow they can't do something like what Sony has achieved with this Z3+.
Anonymous, 19 Nov 2017LDAC is now part of Android 8.
With Sony headphones, any phone will use LDAC.
Sony proba... moreAnd that's the thing; only Sony has this technology, just got shared to others through the update. And only Sony headphones work with it, so I'd get a Sony phone instead.
Then everyone else say that Sony is irrelevant in the Android world when it was actually them who saved us all from the disaster that's brought by the removal of the 3.5mm headphone jack.
Thesis86, 19 Nov 2017Here's the thing...waterproofing is overrate because over the time you own the phone, the wate... moreThe point is that the protection is there, and I'd rather have a waterproof phone than anything with none, because accidents could happen anytime and no matter how careful you are, they would still occur.
Besides, who told you that waterproofing errodes over time? The only time it gets lost is when you attempt to open the phone, in which you'll doubtly ever do in reality.
Even then, you could just bring the phone to the manufacturer and ask them to fix it and still retain the IP68 rating.