iPhone sales in the US up while others stagnate Comments
- Tom-Helge
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Anonymous, 06 Jul 2011I'll answer your questions.
You asked why the average joe would need an expensive iPhone 4 ... moreBut an expensive Android device usually are both faster and much better than the iPhone again.
And that $49 iPhone 3GS will be WAAAAAY WAY more expensive than that when you take the subscription fees every months for that. It wont be any cheap anylonger after that.
The reason i'm saying Android devices are better, is because they suits the needs to everyone better than iPhones do.
-You can do whatever you like on the Android phone, you can controll your OWN device after your needs.
-You can use the Android device 100% without ever needing a computer.
-You can use your Android phone as an external harddrive to. It's an extra free feature you get with the phone. And this is ALWAYS a good thing to have no matter how little you are using that.
-You can buy an Android phone that have the screen size that fits you perfect.
-You can buy an Android phone that doesn't have "one setup" for hardware specs. So you can choose what you want to have.
-You can freely modify the Android OS to you liking and release it as your own ROM. And you can do this because Android is open source.
-You can take a full backup of an Android phone without ever needing a computer to do that.
-You can change out the mp3 player, web browser, e-mail client, home launcher and so on (you can't do this on iOS). You are totally free to choose the program that works best for you.
-You can customize Android to be exactly how you would like to have the home screens.
-You can use microSD cards on the phone. So if 16 or 32 GB isn't enough for you, then you can expand that with extra 32 GB by using a microSD card.
I could have written down even more points here. But i think i don't need to write any more points down, because you already see why Android as an OS is much better than iOS.
Android allows the phone makers to create a phone and create it after how they want a phone to be and choose the specs it want to be and then release different phones with different specs.
Android have no specific barrier on how to make Android phones.
And because of all this, Android / Android phones IS better than iOS / iPhones that doesn't allow anything of this to the average users today.
But ofc, this is just some few reasons on why Android is better than iOS no matter on how you use a smartphone today.
Doesn't matter if iOS is perfect for you when Android is better when it comes to the points over i was writing down.
But, as you already might think, you think i'm saying that iOS totally sucks?
Well, your wrong. I'm saying that iOS / iPhone 4 is all fine, but there exist much better OS'es / phones out there that is even cheaper than iPhone 4 that also can do the same things as iPhone 4 even better sometimes that you have to understand.
The reason i was taking the example with the 100 MHz CPU was to get you to understand that hardware have alot to say for todays smartphones if you want to do more than surfing the web, use GPS, watching pictures, writing e-mails & taking pictures.
Today, we surf the web like we do on our normal computer, we want to watch 720p / 1080p flash content, we want to watch those web pages without ANY lags, we want to record movies in 1080p with very good quality, we want to watch 720p and 1080p MKV movies without stuttering / lag.
We want to use games with VERY GOOD graphic with very high resolution without having any lag or stuttering while we are playing games.
Basicly, most want a phone that can do most things without any lag / stuttering AT ALL while having a phone that is fast.
So, that's why the Samsung Galaxy S II is really really nice, because it wont just work fine for games and that kind of thing for 1 year, it will work extremely good for at least 2 years.
And because of this, we have nothing to worry about when it comes to heavy programs and new games that needs even more power than the games does today.
And don't tell me that most average users doesn't need this. Because when you have over 500000 Android activations everyday, then i'm pretty sure that most average users want all of the things i have written over.
Again, you fail to see that the reason why i compare the iPad 2 (even when it's a tablet) to the Galaxy S II is because the iPad 2 (that is a tablet) is going to use the same hardware as iPhone 5. And when it's going to use the same hardware most likely, then WE CAN compare it to the iPad 2.
Simply, we don't care if it's a tablet or a Modem or anything else, because as long the iPhone 5 will use the same hardware as the iPad 2 have (no matter what the iPad 2 have been), then why can't we compare it to the iPad 2 just because it's a tablet and not a phone?
Yeah i'm pretty sure that you are all going to say that i'm wrong here to. It doesn't freaking suprise me if you do.
No, i came here to give reasons why Android is better than iOS regardless on how good you think iOS is.
Yes, like i said, iOS is all fine, but yeah, read over what i said about the other OS'es.
Now, have a nice day.
- Anonymous
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011Yeah, all it is about when it's about iPhones is high price. Doesn't come as a suprise. Becaus... moreYou say that iPhone 4 users will get the iPhone 5. I guess you are implying that these users always want the latest and greatest right? They need to have the best iPhone possible, right? Even if it means paying full retail, right? So let me guess, when Samsung releases the Galaxy S 3 next year you will be the first in line to get it? Because the last thing you'll want to be is stuck with a phone that Google will only support for another 6 months. And you'll also by then no longer have the best phone out there.
You sir, are an elitist.
And if you look above you'll see the line "No bashing - deliberately and repeatedly bashing the same brand". You are doing that. Next one "No trolling - deliberately antagonizing other brand/model users". You are doing that too.
By coming into this news topic and bashing not only the iPhone but also its users talking as if everyone is stupid... you are not following the posting rules and theoretically everyone here could report every single one of your posts for breaking those rules. As was said before... you probably do have some knowledge. Its your method and manner to which you are sharing it: bashing others and bashing Apple and even using outlandish extreme far fetched and untrue facts to do so.
- Anonymous
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011Yeah, all it is about when it's about iPhones is high price. Doesn't come as a suprise. Becaus... more"Then you said this: People who already own apple product are going to love icloud and how well it works with their other apple products (iTV,iPad other iPhone's mac etc), so those people dont buy anything else than iPhone. Again a lot of customers."
Hey Tom.... learn something! Its called APPLE TV... not iTV.
- Anonymous
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011Good logic or not, but you guys still fail to see out of the Apple box.
You don't see that ... moreI'll answer your questions.
You asked why the average joe would need an expensive iPhone 4 or 5? Same reason they'd pick an expensive Android device. And yes there are android devices that are the same as the iPhone. And the 3GS is still sold for what, $49? I've seen many carriers selling devices as old as last years androids for the same price as the iPhone 4.
You asked why they would choose an expensive iPhone 4 when they could choose and android that will do the same (or better)... (or worse lol) as an iPhone? Same reason they'd choose an expensive android device when they could have just gotten the iPhone.
You made an odd statement then... something to the effect of Apple making you choose one of 2 phones while android gives you all these options. Well Apple isn't making anyone do anything. Its the buyers that are making the choices to buy and use iPhones. You'd think for the limited choices that people would almost completely abandon the iPhone and android would have made even greater strides. But neither has happened. The iPhone is as popular as ever and Android's growth isn't as far as it could have potentially gone, if we use that type of logic. If the answer was so clear and so obvious then more would choose android. So perhaps what you think isn't logic.
You made some references to an iPhone running on 100mhz. You missed the point I was trying to make by going to an extreme, which is a poor method to debating. It really shows you either missed the point or are trying to dismiss what everyone here has said by making the argument seem silly. I'll reverse the tables here. I've seen you continually bash others here for their like and support of the 3gs. You say its junk because its not the best hardware. Well have you done a search on this site for similar phones to the 3gs, but running Android? Do it. There are multitudes of devices all running around 400-800mhz chips and many are running older versions of Android and could never run the current upgrade. Would you then agree that these Android devices are also junk?
And your remarks regarding the iPhone 4 are fanboyish at best. To repeat others - you are comparing a phone that just came out by Samsung against a phone with last years hardware and acting as if its a fair comparison. Hardly. No offense but that one screams, once again, of fanboism at its finest (and worst). There is no proof that the new Galaxy can outperform the iPhone 4 as badly as you claim it can. Will it outperform it? Sure. Its new. Is anyone disputing that? Nobody has. It seems that everyone here is fully admitting that this new phone of Samsungs is very good and a great piece of hardware. But to put it up against last years phones is remarkably stupid. Its almost an insult to the Galaxy. Compare it with other new phones that also just came out. Apple's iPhone 4 is a great phone but its showing its marginal age. Still a remarkable phone though. Its a shame you can't grasp the ability to compare things correctly. Just as bad is the one you noted somewhere to a few people that comparing the Galaxy to the iPad 2. That's a very misdirected comparison.
From what I see here you are talking as if the milliseconds it takes for any older device to load is going to kill you. The iPhone 4 IS a fast phone. Compared to today's phones it still is. Not the fastest, but still quite fast. You talk as if its a dog stuck in mud. Funny thing is, you'll probably tell us all that the smaller and slower android devices I mentioned are good phones, even though they are much slower than the iPhone 4.
Even more shocking is that pretty much everyone here has been trying to tell you how wrong your views are and that you are showing nothing but bias and cannot be objective. Yet you still talk as if you are the only one here with any level of knowledge.
And like I said before: If you came here to start a fight, you got one. You've already lost it, from what I can tell. You just don't know when to quit.
- Tom-Helge
- Srd
AnonD-1825, 05 Jul 2011
"The only thing i will say is wait and see."
yes we should, but i think i know ... moreYeah, all it is about when it's about iPhones is high price. Doesn't come as a suprise. Because it's 100% true that iPhones are extremely overpriced for what you get.
If not alot of iPhone 4 users isn't going to sell their iPhone 4 to get an iPhone 5, then iPhone 5 wont sell that good when we already know that there isn't so many new iOS users that joins the iOS world.
But as it was told longer down. Alot of peoples still have iPhone 3GS, so alot will probably go from that to iPhone 5.
But like i said, most of the users who gets an iPhone 5 are already an iOS user. Or they have different Apple products.
Now, how many iPhone 3GS was sold and how many iPhone 4 was sold?
I think someone said iPhone 4 have sold 19 millions of it.
So lets see on how many iPhone 3GS'es that was sold and then compare that to how many iPhone 4 that was sold.
And you say iOS 5 will bring many new users just because of the notification system that is a pure copy of the notification system in Android?
LOL HAHAHAHAHA, iOS 5 wont get any existing Android users then for sure just because of that.
Why would ANYONE go for iOS 5 because of the notifiaction system when you just can buy a dirt cheap Android phone and get the same notification system there instead?
Then you said this: People who already own apple product are going to love icloud and how well it works with their other apple products (iTV,iPad other iPhone's mac etc), so those people dont buy anything else than iPhone. Again a lot of customers.
Exactly what i'm saying. Most of those who are going from an iPhone 3GS or iPhone 4 to the iPhone 5 are mostly in the Apple religion with different Apple products.
And because of that, the iOS / iPhone users think that iOS / iPhone is the best mobilephone with the best mobile OS in the world no matter how much better other mobilephones are over the iPhones. So the iPhones / iOS devices is a niche product.
See the point?
- Tom-Helge
- Srd
AnonD-1825, 05 Jul 2011You know when iPhone 4 came it sold out in a weekend and many had to wait their devices a long... moreYou say that Samsung Galaxy S II will never outsell iPhone 4 or 5?
Well, first it should be released in the US, secondly we can wait 5-6 more months after it's released in the US and then we can see who's the king on 1st place worldwise.
- Tom-Helge
- Srd
Anonymous, 05 Jul 2011"Most of the peoples who have responded to me have responded with the same boring Apple p... moreGood logic or not, but you guys still fail to see out of the Apple box.
You don't see that even average users today want to do more than you just say.
Then you say this: its now being used in hoards by average people that are not buying phones for the purposes to which you speak. Most of the people that I see that have smartphones (most of them iPhones, but many androids as well) are not doing much more than playing games, browsing the web, taking photos and videos, and haha - making calls.
Can i ask why they need an expensive iPhone 4 or 5 for that?
There exist even non-Android phones out there that are 50-60% cheaper than an iPhone 4 and still do the same things as good as the iPhone 4.
So what are the reason that peoples should go and waste tons of money on an iPhone 4 when they can get the same things and as good mobile as iPhone 4 when they can buy another phone that are much cheaper?
Then i said this: In the iOS world, hardware is irrelevant because the iOS users doesn't use their smart phones to much like we Android users are doing.
You responded with this: Disagree. Of the Android users I know, not one single one of them are using their devices for anything more than the iPhone users are. Some of them are people that you'd never expect would buy a smartphone and a few years ago would never had thought of doing so. The reality of it is clear. The smartphone market is growing, not because more business people are now using them. Its all because the smartphone now appeals to the masses, the average joe, mom and dad, grandma, etc.
And why do they have to buy an iPhone 4 then when they can choose other Android phones that is as good or even better at doing the things you said the average users use their mobilephones to?
Yes, Android phones actually appeals to the masses, the average joe, mom and dad, grandma, etc, because everyone is free to choose the Android phone that actually appeals best to them rather than Apple making their choices on how the mobile phones should be for them.
Then to the things you are talking about software and hardware.
Doesn't help if iOS would run smooth as silk on a 100 MHz CPU when it can't do crap other than running smooth.
To be able to load fast, start games and programs fast, be able to use the phone without lagging when using alot of programs and so on, be able to record movies in 1080p with GOOD quality, and ofc throw everything you can on the phone without getting it to lag, then you have to use powerfull hardware.
Before iPhone 4 even could do 30-35% of what i can do with my Galaxy S II, then iPhone 4 would probably shut it self down because it can't handle the pressure.
It's all about having a phone that doesn't lag when using alot of program, it's all about being lighting fast, loading extremely fast in games and programs.
It's all about being future proof for at least 2-3 years.
So, hardware is as important than software. If you want the phone to totally work 100% fine whatever you do and to be 100% smooth all the time no matter what you do on the phone, then you need powerfull hardware no matter what.
I specially laugh when peoples comes here and claims that Android is going to have troubles in 2011 when they are the biggest mobile OS in the world while still growing extremely fast.
That's pure Apple propaganda.
I was like, are that guy for real?
- Anonymous
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011The only thing i'm gonna answer to you here is this you said: And with iOS5 iPhone is much bet... more"Most of the peoples who have responded to me have responded with the same boring Apple propaganda like most Apple users do."
No, they've responded to you with, from what I can see - good logic! You are just such a rabid arrogant Fandroid that you are not happy unless you are bashing the iPhone, iOS, or anyone that uses them and likes them. You also are so blinded by that bias that you refuse to see any other thought pattern but your own. And additionally you seem to bash away at anyone that doesn't agree with you like a lemming, even when faced with very reasonable logic that makes sense. If anything is boring here its that you actually feel you are in touch with what users really buy smartphones for. Years ago the smartphone was a business device. It still is but its now being used in hoards by average people that are not buying phones for the purposes to which you speak. Most of the people that I see that have smartphones (most of them iPhones, but many androids as well) are not doing much more than playing games, browsing the web, taking photos and videos, and haha - making calls. So I can't say that you are correct at all by your statement. There has been too much presented here to establish a solid case for the iPhone and its users against what you say. And its all good stuff.
And something else I saw you posted....
"In the iOS world, hardware is irrelevant because the iOS users doesn't use their smart phones to much like we Android users are doing."
Disagree. Of the Android users I know, not one single one of them are using their devices for anything more than the iPhone users are. Some of them are people that you'd never expect would buy a smartphone and a few years ago would never had thought of doing so. The reality of it is clear. The smartphone market is growing, not because more business people are now using them. Its all because the smartphone now appeals to the masses, the average joe, mom and dad, grandma, etc.
As for the typical hardware and software argument... lets think about this logically. Hardware is only as good as the software that can run it. Without the software the phone is useless anyhow. If software is written to optimize the hardware it is given in a very efficient manner then you truly have a well designed package (meaning the combination of both). The more efficient the software the less strain on the hardware and battery life. In some cases software is written so inefficient that it pushes hardware makers to put greater hardware in their devices and that hardware then becomes a necessity rather than a bonus. The down side to this is that this inefficient software can only be run on that device or a few like it. The result of not doing so is a phone that lags, freezes, you get the picture. So rather than accusing the people in here that have told you point blank that the iPhone 3gs is a great phone due to its well written software - which results in a very efficient and smooth running device that does exactly what it was designed to do (and more), maybe accept their level of experience and their perspective on that.
From what I've observed from you all you do is lash out with laughter at people when the give you opposing points of view rather than understanding where they are coming from. That sort of arrogance turns people off and pushes them to be more combative towards you rather than trying to understand what you are saying. Quite possibly you have some good knowledge to share. But the manner in which you deliver it (all of the bashing and laughing at others) is counterproductive. Its almost as if you came here to pick a fight. Well it appears you got one.
- Tom-Helge
- Srd
AnonD-1825, 05 Jul 2011
"The only thing i will say is wait and see."
yes we should, but i think i know ... moreThe only thing i'm gonna answer to you here is this you said: And with iOS5 iPhone is much better than before and will get many new customers because of the new notification center. It helps to get new customers and make iPhone even better.
LOL, just LOL. So you mean iOS 5 will get many more new customers just because of the Android copy of the notification system?
It wont bring any Android users to iOS 5 then for sure.
The fact is that iOS doesn't get that many more of new users really.
Most of the users that goes from an iPhone 4 to an iPhone 5 or to an iPhone 5 are already an iOS user.
I saw an article not so long time ago where they said that around 80% of everyone that buys a new iPhone when a new iPhone gets released are already iPhone users.
So the grow of new iOS users aren't that big.
Yeah like the thing you said in the last thing in your reply there. Most peoples that are continuing to use iPhones after iPhones, doesn't really do it because it's a really good phone compared to other phones out in the market.
They keep doing it because they are in the Apple religion with many other Apple products. And because of that, things gets easier for them.
And those iPhone users doesn't cares about how freaking bad an iPhone would be compared to other phones. For them, iPhone is the best mobilephone in the world no matter what.
And anyone who disagree with that is an Android geek fanboi.
- AnonD-1825
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011The only thing i will say is wait and see.
When Galasy S sold 10 million units after a litt... more
"The only thing i will say is wait and see."
yes we should, but i think i know the result already.
"Yes, ofc, every current iPhone 4 users will abandon their expensive iPhone 4 to get the expensive iPhone 4S / 5."
i Dont think many iPhone 4 owners are going to buy iPhone 4s or iPhone 5. and if the are, they sell the old model with hi-price :)
"And not only that, but it's not even confirmed that it will be an iPhone 5. For all we know, it might just be a poor upgrade of the current iPhone 4, like iPhone 3G was upgraded to iPhone 3GS."
Even if it's poor update like you said, you clearly forget how many iphone 3gs users are in the world who have skipped iPhone 4 and now want to chance their 3gs for iPhone 5, like me.
Then add all the new apple users. And with iOS5 iPhone is much better than before and will get many new customers because of the new notification center. It helps to get new customers and make iPhone even better.
People who already own apple product are going to love icloud and how well it works with their other apple products (iTV,iPad other iPhone's mac etc), so those people dont buy anything else than iPhone. Again a lot of customers.
- Tom-Helge
- Srd
AnonD-1825, 05 Jul 2011You know when iPhone 4 came it sold out in a weekend and many had to wait their devices a long... moreThe only thing i will say is wait and see.
When Galasy S sold 10 million units after a little while earlier. Then wait and see what that number for Galaxy S II will be after a short while.
Remember that Galaxy S sold 3 million units after the first 85 days while Galaxy S II sold 3 million units after the first 55 days. And this is even before Galaxy S II is released in the US lol.
Think for a second on where this might end.
Your totally blind and doesn't look outside of the narrow Apple box you are in if you don't see the things i'm talking about here.
Yes, ofc, every current iPhone 4 users will abandon their expensive iPhone 4 to get the expensive iPhone 4S / 5.
And not only that, but it's not even confirmed that it will be an iPhone 5. For all we know, it might just be a poor upgrade of the current iPhone 4, like iPhone 3G was upgraded to iPhone 3GS.
- AnonD-1825
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011The fact that you call the Galaxy S II for a nerd phone says all about how much you knows abou... moreYou know when iPhone 4 came it sold out in a weekend and many had to wait their devices a long time. Same with iPhone 3gs.
"Taiwan-based notebook maker Pegatron Technology is estimated to have landed orders for 15 million iPhone 5s (iPhone 4S) from Apple and is set to start shipping in September of 2011,"
Now with iPhone 5 the plan is very different with 15 million units, how fast they can sell those 15 millions? i say very fast.
Galaxy s2 never going to outsell iphone, like i said, IPhone has much bigger potential market than galaxy s2, just like it was with iPhone 4 vs galaxy s.
- Tom-Helge
- Srd
AnonD-1825, 05 Jul 2011You still speak like everyone nowdays are phone geeks, clearly if you are in this site you are... moreWell i'm not that geeky to be honest. I'm just a normal user who like to get the most out of a phone for what we are paying.
I don't pee money or having trees where it grows money on, so i spend my money wisely. And therefore, i choose the best phone with the best specs and features for the money i can use on a mobilephone.
Because i'm gonna live with that phone for 2-3 years, so i want to be future proof and still having a phone that is fast as hell even after 2-3 years.
And here the Galaxy S II is perfect.
So what you are saying is that peoples today just want a phone that is smooth and nothing more?
The old Sony Ericsson T610i phone i had was also smooth as hell, but it couldn't do crap because it was an ordinary phone (not smartphone).
See?, just because it's smooth doesn't mean it's any good.
The argument that peoples only want a phone that is smooth today in 2011 is PURE Apple fanboi comment.
Doesn't help if the phone is smooth when it can't do crap.
Yes, it's true that most users today are average users. But average users still choose phones that meets their needs in most cases anyways.
Doesn't help to have an iPhone 4 when it doesn't meets the needs to ALOT of peoples.
Oh, the thing that most womens have iPhones today is soooooo 2009 lol.
Most of my friends (those who are womens) have Android phones today. They either have HTC Desire, HTC Desire HD, Samsung Galaxy S and some have phones from the Sony XPERIA X10 series.
- Anonymous
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011The fact that you call the Galaxy S II for a nerd phone says all about how much you knows abou... more"Yes, so far iPhone 4 is the most selling phone, but i'll just say this, wait until the Galaxy S II gets released in the US, and wait 5 or 6 more months and come back to me and ask who are the most selling phone in the world."
After six months iPhone 5 is most selled smartphone i'm almost sure about that. Every iPhone model has sold much more than earlier version and it's going to be like that with iPhone 5 too. iPhone 5 is going to break all the records.
iPhone 4 sold more than 19 million.
- AnonD-1825
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 20111. US is not the whole world.
Take a look on how much Android is growing worldwide.
2. I... moreYou still speak like everyone nowdays are phone geeks, clearly if you are in this site you are phone geek. Most of people who buy smartphones nowdays doesn't read these sites and have no clue what smartphone can do and what not, and what usb otg means, or what retina display means or what flash support means, what dual core means. The whole time you speaking like everyone in the world is those phone geeks. Look the bigger picture.
Actually most of people doesnt care about power or dual cores of their phone, they just look how smooth everything runs and that's it, it's enough.
Clearly people who read this site care these kind of things much more, but again biggest smartphone markets nowdays are average users. There's iPhone fits perfectly, its interesting that you csnt understand that, whole time you try to say everyone wants your HUGE galaxy s2 with dual core processor :D
Let's talk about womens, go and make gallup with 100 girls, how many you think understand what dual core means, or never heard the word?
You know many womens buys smartphones these days and most of them pick iPhone.
- Tom-Helge
- Srd
Anonymous, 05 Jul 2011Victory! The deletion of a troll comment lol!The victory is far from being a victory yet.
- Tom-Helge
- Srd
AnonD-1825, 05 Jul 2011Like you said, galaxy s2 is more like nerd phone for nerds how want to buy specs and do everyt... moreThe fact that you call the Galaxy S II for a nerd phone says all about how much you knows about Android or Samsung Galaxy S II in general.
About specs again, read my post under. I explain good on why specs is as important as software today in 2011.
So i'll recommend you to read it and understand that we are in year 2011 today and not in 2009 where peoples didn't demand much out of a phone.
Can you please share with us on how many iPhone 4 that have been sold worldwide?
I'm not asking about the numbers for all iPhones sold, ONLY iPhone 4.
Yes, so far iPhone 4 is the most selling phone, but i'll just say this, wait until the Galaxy S II gets released in the US, and wait 5 or 6 more months and come back to me and ask who are the most selling phone in the world.
But only because iPhone 4 sells so good, it doesn't mean the iPhone 4 is any good for the bigger part of the smartphone users.
Because if that's the case, then Britney Spears newest song much also be the best song in the world because it's the most selling song in the world. This is just an example to tell why taking a product to be good just because it sells good is a bad idea.
Apple should release different phones with different screen sizes with different hardwares to.
If Apple still continues to go the way they have been doing, then will end up with troubles in the end, because so many will go over to Android or other mobile OS'es because of choices that Apple will feel the need to release different phones to keep up in the market.
Yup, just because Apple have a very good PR it doesn't automaticly means their products are as good as they are saying they are.
- Tom-Helge
- Srd
Anonymous, 05 Jul 20111. iPhone sales are up, and Android has stagnated, despite using 'old' hardware Tom.
Erica ... more1. US is not the whole world.
Take a look on how much Android is growing worldwide.
2. If tech specs is irrelevant, then software is irrelevant to.
The fact is that tech specs is as much relevant as software today.
3. Yeah, it doesn't comes as a bomb to you that Samsung isn't afraid to try out new OS'es?
Samsung will try the Windows Phone 7 world to see if it can be any success.
And companies KNOWS very good that giving out phones today with good specs is very important, because you know, phones gets more and more advanced and peoples want more and more advanced and more powerfull phones.
And therefore, ALOT of brands are making Android phones with very good hardware specs today.
And this is something that will be much more out of.
4. I don't hate Apple because of the simple fact that i own the 11.6 inch MacBook Air.
But i hate some of the other products they have with a damn good reason.
And the iPhones are one of that.
5. LOL, you talk about cars that have huge speed. What does that helps when you don't mention handling on those cars?
Android is like a car with very good handling, because you can customize it after your best needs. While the handling on iPhones doesn't have that good handling since you can't change anything to your liking.
Simple as that.
6. The fact that you say Android is going to have troubles in 2012 when everybody knows that Android is the biggest mobile OS in the world now. And when you on top of that see how much Android is growing each weeks, then what makes you think Android is going to get troubles in 2012?
I take that comment for trolling.
In the iOS world, hardware is irrelevant because the iOS users doesn't use their smart phones to much like we Android users are doing.
Android is like Windows where you have everything, where you can get whatever you want, where you can controll the OS to your liking, where you can make the choices on what you want to do and where you can customize everything so the OS meets your personal taste.
This is what peoples want today. And that's the reason Android is here today. And because of that, Android wont disapear.
And like the link about the fragmentation shows, then iOS isn't that much better than Android when it comes to fragmentation.
I rather listen to what the experts are saying rather than listening to someone who don't have a freaking clue on what a smartphone barly is today.
Yes, Android have a PR problem, like Samsung also have, but still, they gets tons with tons of new users everyday.
Because both Google and Samsung is 2 companies that are more neutral in the media. They don't goes out and do the usual fap fap fap over their products like Apple does.
Watch the 2 YouTube links i wrote in a reply longer down to see what i'm talking about. Does Google and Samsung do PR like that?
Just because Apple is good at PR, it doesn't mean their products are good. Because in this case, it's the PR managers that are good.
Most of the peoples who have responded to me have responded with the same boring Apple propaganda like most Apple users do.
Yup, that's right, the world is full of other Android phones from other brands. And this is because of two reasons.
1. Peoples demands phones that can gives peoples different screen sizes, different hardwares, different designs on the phones and so on. Peoples loves choices.
2. Peoples demands powerfull smartphones today. And because anyone can use Android for free and because it's a very good OS, then more and more will use Android and sell phones with the OS. And because of that, more and more will buy Android phones, because it meets their needs.
And the cheaper phones even meets the needs to ALOT of peoples, and because those peoples doesn't want all of the fancy stuffs on their phones, then they can buy a dirt cheap Android phones that meets their needs.
So, just to get to the bottom of this. Apple is doing a good PR in the media. The other brands are doing a very good job by releasing phones in different sized with different hardwares and so on.
So yeah, Apple is doing a good job with the PR in the media, but they fail totally to meets peoples needs on what they really needs. And the other brands are doing a very good job by releasing phones in different sized with different hardwares and so on. But they kinda fail on doing a good PR.
So yes, you got a response from me. If you think i will stop responding to you, you are pretty wrong.
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Victory! The deletion of a troll comment lol!
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011Ok, first of all, this post will be long.
1. You are still talking about the US. Again, let... moreLike you said, galaxy s2 is more like nerd phone for nerds how want to buy specs and do everything with their phone, apple doesn't sell specs you cant find how fast processor iPhone 4 has when you look iPhone official specs site, it doesnt tell that, why? because apple don't sell tech, it sells what you can do with that tech. Most of people doesnt care about specs, nerd and phone freak does. You clearly haven't noticed that average people are nowdays the biggest potential smartphone byers, and there's a BIG market. IPhone 4 is there, galaxy s2 is not. both phones have different market if we talk about big picture.
Where i live iPhone 4 has been most selled phone almost every month with every operator what sells it after it came to market. It has outselled galaxy s every month. iPhone 4 is verizon number one phone, its at&t number phone etc.
Because most of people still buys iPhone 4 and even more are going to buy iPhone 5. Because still 4,3" screen is too big for most of the people. There's market for big screens too, but it's not the biggest market. So galaxy s2 never gonna outsell iPhone.
Apple doesn't do smartphone for nerds and specs fans. They do smartphone for average people.
I never understood how stupid other's than apple market their phones and tablets. They just show features and fast picture cuts without any sense, after the commercial you have forget everything what you just saw, there wasn't anything what goes into your head. If you look Apple's commercials they have so different approach. I'm not surprised at all why apple can sell their phones more than others.
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