AnonD-10525, 04 Jul 2011Duel is dead on with that one. You keep comparing the LAST YEAR'S iPhone 4 with THIS YEAR'S G... moreWe always need to compare what is available or announced. i4 is available ... there is no i5 or i4s or whatever the new name will be. SGS2 is available now and can be compared, and should be compared.
Victory is all about NOW ! ... unless you decide to become blind to reality ...
Anonymous, 05 Jul 20111. iPhone sales are up, and Android has stagnated, despite using 'old' hardware Tom.
Erica ... moreOk, first of all, this post will be long.
1. You are still talking about the US. Again, lets look at the stats for the whole world and lets see who really are going up there.
US isn't relevant when it comes to how popular Android is.
2. Tech specs are as much relevant as software is. Tech specs is very important because before a smart phone can do everything that a smart phone is supposed to do today, then it requires alot of hardware power.
3. Yeah, Samsung is going to rule the world. Haven't you got that point yet?
Do you know why Apple isn't going the same way as Android, when it comes to hardware specs?
Simply because iOS users isn't users who demand much for a mobilephone, because their usage is way different than what the usage for Android users is.
Android users want a powerfull phone that is future proof, they want a phone that can do EVERYTHING a smart phone is capable of doing without lagging. They want a phone that is a mini computer of a sort where they can do "most" of the tasks on their mobilephone without having a laptop or computer with you.
iOS users use their devices to more of the lighter stuffs, and trhat's why iOS users isn't demanding much out of the devices.
And just because of this, it doesn't mean that there doesn't exist much better phones than iPhones out there.
And i'm pretty sure that 500000+ users each days is demanding better and better phones for a reason. And not because omg, i just reads some texts and play some games that doesn't really require much hardware power.
Android is like Windows. Windows can do everything and do it in an easy way.
4. The reason i like Samsung, is because they never stops to amaze me with their awesome mobilephones with really really good hardware specs.
They did pretty much everything right with the Samsung Galaxy S II. And you see that when all that tests the phones gives it a 6 (Max) in character.
And you see that when over 3 million have bought the phone just after 55 days. And this is even before it have been released in the US lol.
Ofc peoples love Samsung when they delivers a phone that peoples really want and when they can deliver a phone that can do EVERYTHING a smart phone is supposed to do in 2011.
Just remember that we are still in 2011 and not in 2009 where you think we are now.
5. You took that example without thinking about that a car needs handling to.
And i'm pretty sure a bad handling is something peoples doesn't want.
Samsung Galaxy S II have much better handling (because of the customization possibilities) over what the iPhones have in handling because you can't customize them.
6. The fact that you think Android is going to be in troubles in 2012 makes me think that you must be from another planet. And you much be so manipulated by Steve Jobs 'hallelujah, we are the best thing in the world propaganda' by saying that.
How can Android be in trouble when Android is the biggest mobile OS in the whole world now?
And it's also pretty funny that you say that when you see how much Android is growing. Some few months ago, Android har 300000 activations each days, and some few months later it have 500000 activations each day.
When 2011 is over, that number will be up to about 700000-800000 activations each days.
So, please explain to me why Android will be in troubles in 2012 when Android is the biggest mobile OS in the world and still growing ALOT?
Again, the link i gave earlier about fragmentation is saying the whole truth.
Doesn't matter what kind of bullshit you are saying when the facts about fragmentation on both iOS and Android is told in the link i gave earlier.
Well yeah, even when a company isn't good a PR, they can still sell extremely good.
You see Samsung Galaxy S II, it have almost no adverts, no one staying somewhere and doing the usual fap fap thing like Apple is doing over their products and so on.
Even when this is the case, then Samsung is selling tons of tons with Galaxy S II phones.
And by the way. How many iPhone 4 have Apple sold alone?
Now i'm not talking about all of the iPhones, i'm talking ONLY about iPhone 4.
Yes, the world is not only about Samsung or Galaxy S II. But most of the world are with Android.
Peoples loves choices and loves to be able to choose the phones that suits them best instead of luring them into buying an expensive iPhone 4 just because one guys goes around doing the usual fap fap fap braging about the iPhone 4.
The only chance Apple will have in the future to be able to grow bigger, is to release a cheaper version of the iPhones.
Because as things are now, more and more peoples goes over to Android. And when enough peoples have gone over to Android, then i doubt that many will go back to iOS.
You don't expect a response from me?
When you comes with lies and just pure propaganda, then ofc i have to reply back.
1. iPhone sales are up, and Android has stagnated, despite using 'old' hardware Tom.
Erica Sadun has commented on this phenomenon, saying that Apple has found the secret, which they now call the Post-PC era.
2. Tech specs are irrelevant.
Post away all the tech specs you want. Useless. Erica Sadun has already commented on this, what Apple calls the Post-PC era. Tech specs are not important, as long as the device performs its task for the user. The more invisible tech specs are the better.
3. Companies who follow this, will flourish, those that ignore it do so at their peril.
Nokia is realising this and working hard on WP7. You keep denying it, yet even your beloved Samsung has a WP7 prototype in the works? Why? Shouldn't the almighty specs of hardware plus Android be enough? Its because even they know Apple's approach is right, and they are scrambling to find a similar approach.
4. Samsung will continue to be a great manufacturer.
They are innovative with hardware, and offer more choice and configuration than Apple. I like iPhone, but that does not mean automatically hate Samsung. It seems that is the way you view the world. You like Samsung, therefore you must not only hate Apple, but insult people who use it. Pretty pathetic.
When you argue or debate. It will get you more results. Read what others say, and tailor your response suitably. Just banging on the same points, which everyone never disagreed to, can get boring.
X: This Car A is damn fast man
Y: Yup it is, I bought the Car B cos it has 4 seats
X: You don't get it, Car A is super fast
Y: I know it's fast, but I have two children
X: The problem with your Car B is that its slower than the Car A. Look at this youtube vid, Car A is fast man
Get the point?
6. Personal opinion: Lastly, Android is going to be in trouble come 2012.
iOS despite the insults, has steadily moved along. Why? The insults to hardware are irrelevant (to a certain degree), as it has always been only a portal to iOS, which is what Apple is really selling. iPhone buyers are buying it for iOS. Android buyers are still buying hardware first, and Android second.
The fragmentation issues are definitely there for android. Lots of malware issues have risen, with some Android fanboys even saying "So what? There are free anti-virus". Try telling that to a common customer and a bead of sweat will form at their neck.
Android have a PR problem on their hands. Difficulty in choosing phones, an OS coming under increasing attack. So what do people do? They will go to the forums. And what do they find? Obnoxious Android fanboys thumping their chest with arrogance lol. Do you think that's a good image for Android? I dont think so.
Look at the bigger picture. Most of the guys here who responded to you have been sensible, with measured responses. You however have sounded like a broken record, and based on nothing but anecdotal evidence, as well as your beloved SGS2.
The world of Android isn't full of SGS2s my friend, it is filled with HTC, and Motorola, and high end, and low end, with this screen size, and that screen size. AMOLED, and SAMOLED, and LCD, and flip keyboard, and no keyboard, and gamepad, and no gamepad. Only telling you this, for you to realise that you yourself are an elitist.
Don't expect a response from you. This is just for you to read, and hopefully understand what most people see, that you don't. You can reply if you want. Don't really care.
AnonD-10525, 05 Jul 2011Judging by the data you listed.. you STILLL dont' get it. It doesn't matter how many activati... moreAnd just ot add this as a seperate post to you.
Does it comes to you as a bomb why so many bites on what they are saying?
Peoples buys what they are saying and believes every words of what Apple is telling, that their products are so great, amazing, incredible, wonderfull yadda yadda yadda.
They are going crazy over their own products. It's like watching Apple in this way: http://neo-fringe.com/nimg.php?fn=HitIt-DomoFap.jpg&f=areas/a3/f1526.jpg
AnonD-10525, 05 Jul 2011Judging by the data you listed.. you STILLL dont' get it. It doesn't matter how many activati... moreAndroid is far from stagnant when it comes to the whole world.
If you really think Android is stagnant with 500000+ activation each days, then lol, your stupid.
Yeh, it doesn't comes as a bomb that Apple is getting alot of money when they rip you off by selling you really overpriced fashion phones.
Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011LOL, it's funny to see all of you omgosh panic posting where you post 3-4 replies where you co... moreJudging by the data you listed.. you STILLL dont' get it. It doesn't matter how many activations there are... you can say all you want to try and save your ship right now but the truth is that Android growth is stagnant... while iOS growth has always been constant.
Be arrogant all you want... won't change the FACT that Apple is rolling in lots of money!!!! And people love their iPhones. So peace out.
(rant away, you are boring)
AnonD-10525, 05 Jul 2011Ive used the separate tab thing but id rather annoy you... its more fun. because you obviousl... moreYou don't annoy me if you really think you do that.
I'm just pointing out that you should be smarter.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that says the biggest liar here that is also the biggest Apple hallelujah fanboi here.
Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011Maybe you should be smarter? When i reply to your long winded and misguided responses to, t... moreIve used the separate tab thing but id rather annoy you... its more fun. because you obviously got annoyed by this headline
Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011LOL, it's funny to see all of you omgosh panic posting where you post 3-4 replies where you co... moreYour lies about the iPhone 3GS are pretty pathetic. To you its all about hardware. Hardware is nothing without good software. But you fandroids don't get that. Keep your buggy insecure Crashdroid.
AnonD-10525, 05 Jul 2011they aren't' panic posts lol. its just easier to respond to you with quick thoughts as i read... moreMaybe you should be smarter?
When i reply to your long winded and misguided responses to, then i have your reply in a seperate tab, while having the other tab where i'm actually replying to your post in the browser.
And by that, i can just switch to the tab where i'm reading your reply and then just switch back tho the tab where i'm replying to you after reading the reply, so there is no need to create 83589305820385 seperate replies just because you do it in the hard way.
Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011LOL, it's funny to see all of you omgosh panic posting where you post 3-4 replies where you co... moreIts actually very hard to reply to you because you talk in circles and you don't support yourself. You also miss what everyone is saying.
Let me say it again. Apple roughly doubled its worldwide share in the last 12 months.
Must I look this stuff up for you??? Are you that inept?
Go on ranting about how wonderful your millions of android phones are. doesn't change the fact.... FACT that the iPhone is one of the most popular phones in the world, regardless of specs.
You are bringing nothing new to the table. YOu are just still upset that this headline is true.
Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011LOL, it's funny to see all of you omgosh panic posting where you post 3-4 replies where you co... morethey aren't' panic posts lol. its just easier to respond to you with quick thoughts as i read your long winded and misguided responses.
here goes another one.
AnonD-10525, 05 Jul 2011Keep talking and spreading lies and misconceptions... it won't change that headline, nor will ... moreLOL, it's funny to see all of you omgosh panic posting where you post 3-4 replies where you could have posted it in one reply like i do.
So, i'll guess you have the hard evidence that iOS is more popular than Android when it comes to the whole world?
Where is your proof?
And this article is about mobilephones, not tablets.
Yes, Android 3.0 Honeycomb haven't had a success yet.
But that doesn't mean Android for smartphones haven't had a success.
When it comes to the whole world, then Android already passed iOS in 2010. And have had a HUUUUUUUGE success.
And by now, Android is faaaaaaaar far over iOS when it comes to the stats for the whole world.
And another fact why some iOS users doesn't want to hear the fact that there exist much better phones out there that are even much cheaper. But because 75% of the current iPhone owners already have an iMac, MacBook of some sorts or already have an iPad, then they want to be in the same religion and don't want to realize that there is better phones out there than iPhones.
Just because iPhone is very good for you because you are in this holy Apple halleluja religion it doesn't mean that the iPhone is a smart phone that is good when you see what other smart phones have as standard today.
iPhone 3GS is very old and outdated and is a crappy phone today. Simple as that.
It have a shitty screen, it's way to small to be considered a real smartphone, it's slow (compared to smart phones today).
And the rest of it's specs is pure crap. It can't do much today with such bad hardware specs.
LOL yah, Apple doubled is tiny percent share in the last 12 months. You barly notice the difference when it comes to the whole world.
Android had a 600% market share boost in 2010. Now that's what i'm talking about.
Oh, this might comes as a suprise for you, but do you even know why so many brands are making Android phones?
Yes because peoples today demands SMART phones that is real smart phones. And Android doesn't have 500000 activations each days without a reason you know.
And before 2011 is over, that number will most likely be up to around 800000 activation each days.
Take a guess on why Android sells so much?
Is it because Apple makes so good phones that the peoples doesn't needs to buy other smart phones, or is it because peoples today demands much more out of a smartphone today than they did in 2008.
Yes, when it comes to development and what iOS can do, it's still back in 2008-2009.
So just to sum it up. Peoples buys Android phones in big numbers because they have the freedom to choose what kind of phone they want and because they can get something that is way better than iOS.
And lastly. It's pretty funny that you are writing with 2 names here while pretending to be one of them.
Please continue so i have something to laugh to.
Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011US is still not the whole world.
Find the stats for the whole world and come back and tell ... moreAs for world market share... Apple pretty much doubled its share in the last 12 months. Android is still ahead in the world market but they also have... ehem.... How many phones???? There are like a million Android phones.... many of them just plain suck! This is compared to Apples very small list of devices running iOS.
I'm honestly more impressed when ONE company can sell an unfathomable amount of units of just a few products... over a company that has many many products but only a few stand out.
AnonD-10525, 05 Jul 2011"iPhone sales in the US up while others stagnate"
This is the headline... still a... moreYou are right, we all see what happened here, first this Tom was regular commenter, but now he is totally one of the worst android fans, we clearly can see how he changed over day.
When some of us say something to prove him wrong he gets more pissed of and try to change what he really meant, even he know he was wrong. Even more wrong he is he's start talking more trash about iPhone. Good example for that he's final post "And don't even get me started when it's about the shitty UI in iOS 5. LOL, same shit all over since 2007." this actually covers everything and prove my point :D no further question
Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011Peoples will start to use their mobile phones to watch movies from the phone to the TV's via H... moreiPhone 3GS is a great phone. It does exactly what it was designed to do and is STILL supported. Any rude or incorrect comments you spread about it won't change anything.
Keep fighting... you are losing.
Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011US is still not the whole world.
Find the stats for the whole world and come back and tell ... moreKeep talking and spreading lies and misconceptions... it won't change that headline, nor will it change the increased growth rate of the iPhone and iPad.
Just ready an article on how badly Android tablets are doing in comparison to the iPad.
You know what... I bet you can't seem to fathom how anyone would choose an iPhone over any Android device, right? If you can't see it... then you lack the open mind to see why.
60% of the mobile web browsing.... that's huge!