iPhone sales in the US up while others stagnate Comments
- Tom-Helge
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AnonD-10525, 05 Jul 2011"iPhone sales in the US up while others stagnate"
This is the headline... still a... moreUS is still not the whole world.
Find the stats for the whole world and come back and tell me who are the big leader there.
And not only that, but Samsung Galaxy S II isn't released in the US yet. I'll just say wait for that and then see who will really go up in stats in the US.
- AnonD-10525
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011LOL, that guy have never tried and never ever owned a Galaxy S II. If the iPhone 3GS is faster... more"iPhone sales in the US up while others stagnate"
This is the headline... still annoys you right????
- Tom-Helge
- Srd
AnonD-10525, 05 Jul 2011Fist of all... how am I the dumb one when you are the one that seems to think that people are ... morePeoples will start to use their mobile phones to watch movies from the phone to the TV's via HDMI or DLNA simply because they can and because the phones is powerfull enough to do it today.
And because it's easy to have everything or most things in one device.
About the thing with the 60% where iPhone and iPad comprise of approx. 60% of mobile Web browsing in the US.
Yes lol, in the US. But lets rather look at the stats for the whole world. The numbers gets totally different then.
iOS still sucks when is misses half of the important features / functions of what other smart phones in 2007-2008 had as standard features / functions there.
And don't even get me started when it's about the shitty UI in iOS 5. LOL, same shit all over since 2007.
FAIL.
iPhone 3GS was running smooth in 2009. That's it. There is phones out today that are so fast and smooth that the iPhone 3GS isn't taken as fast or smooth today, even while it looks fast and smooth in your Apple world.
Yes, before i can run games with high resolution, and to be able to run those games smooth, and to be able to have a very good experience in the web browser where nothing lags, and where i want to play movies from my phone to my TV, then yes, iPhone 3GS is extremely slow and bad.
You can't even use the iPhone 3GS to anything of the tasks today that actually require alot of power from the phone.
The only thing you can use your iPhone 3GS for is to use it as a MP3 player, surf the web and play games with poor graphic with the fantastic, amazing, incredible, great resolution of the whole 320 x 480.
Surfing the web with that is like troooooolololol.
- AnonD-10525
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011LOL, that guy have never tried and never ever owned a Galaxy S II. If the iPhone 3GS is faster... moreAnd I'm still not sure how you cannot see how the iPhone 3GS can run smooth! You are soooo stuck on this misconception that you NEED faster hardware in order to have something run smooth (and we are not just talking about the navigation from different screens).
Can you at some point just admit that fast hardware is not what makes a phone run smooth? Its well written and efficient SOFTWARE! Why do you think the "more powerful" Xoom and other such devices were shipped "buggy" and not nearly as efficient as the iPad 2? The software wasn't as refined and doesn't work as well with ALL of that "superior" hardware.
Just remember... its not about the hardware... its about the software. You know this to be true you just are reluctant to admit it. I'd rather have the 3GS over that overhyped Galaxy S2. Just remember... it won't be supported in about 18 months. I bet the iPhone 4 will still be very well supported at least 2 years or more from now... and its already been a full year that it arrived. Now THAT is the way it SHOULD be.
- AnonD-10525
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011LOL, that guy have never tried and never ever owned a Galaxy S II. If the iPhone 3GS is faster... moreRant on all you want and make outlandish claims, etc etc. Its not changing anything. Read the article again and get annoyed that Android needs like 100+ phones just to surpass Apple's 2 phones. Just imagine if Apple came up with a few more designs.
And what you don't realize is that even though market percentages may have changed... Apple never slipped it its number of units shipped and they keep shipping more and more iOS devices every quarter. Their smarkphone share is still growing. Truth be told they and Android are the only ones that were gaining share rather than losing.
- AnonD-10525
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[deleted post]Fist of all... how am I the dumb one when you are the one that seems to think that people are going to all of a sudden flock to using the personal cell phones to stream their blockbuster movies to their TVs. So your reversal of calling me dumb just doesn't work at all. Yes that silent mode is nice if you are not expecting an important call or perhaps if someone has an emergency in the family and needs to get a hold of you. Real nice - "I was watching a movie".
Try touchreviews.net Its an article from TODAY. I found it while surfing on my iPad (yes I contribute to the 60%).
Ya know what... you can go on and on with all of this and try to convince people that all Android phones are the best and iOS devices suck. But what I think is really going on here is you are SOOO MAD that this article reveals that regardless of how great and fast Android and its partners make their phones - it hasn't stopped Apple's push of its iOS devices. While Android is stagnant... iOS is growing (and always has been). And that annoys you doesn't it??????
So if you can blast away at Apple and all of its success and money and massive market share for its VERY VIEW DEVICES.... It certainly will not change Apple's success. It makes you sooo mad and that makes me laugh!!1
- Tom-Helge
- Srd
AnonD-1825, 05 Jul 2011"You don't even see that the browser in the Galaxy S II crushes both the iPhone 4 and iPa... moreLOL, that guy have never tried and never ever owned a Galaxy S II. If the iPhone 3GS is faster than a Galaxy S II, then why is the Galaxy S II faster and smoother than the iPhone 4?
Isn't the iPhone 4 supposed to be much faster and smoother than the iPhone 3GS lol?
Somethings tells me that he's an Apple hallelujah fanboi who have been manipulated totally into the Apple hallelujah religion by Steve Jobs where everyone is holding his hands where he's in the dream world now.
When iPhone 4 gets crushed by the Galaxy II in performance and smoothness, then how can iPhone 3GS be smoother than Galaxy S II then?
And when you tell me that iOS 5 use GPU accelerated web browser, that tells me that you don't know much about the iOS 5.
Or if it really does like you say, then the performance on that GPU is rather poor anyways. Or the other way is that the browser performs really really bad.
- AnonD-1825
- p77
Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011And tell me how much bitrate those 720p movies you can record from your iPod Touch have?
Tr... more"You don't even see that the browser in the Galaxy S II crushes both the iPhone 4 and iPad 2 with a HUGE margin.
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCf0-MQswCo"
Comment about the video:
"@addiie90mibo I have a galaxy S2, and my iphone 3GS is still more buttery smooth, with a 600 mhz processor...(jailbroken with tons of add ons) that's what I call good software by apple.
Megadeth6633"
And that came from galaxy s2 owner :) kind a funny.
By the way what you try to prove with that video? those iPad and iPhone doesnt even use new iOS5 which run html5 stuff much much better than 4.3. Only difference in that video is galaxy s2 uses GPU accelerated HTML5, iOS 4.3 dont, iOS 5 does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZYQhwsO61Y see the difference what iOS 5 makes.
- AnonD-10525
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011I know the A5 chip supports 1080p output. But showing 1080p output is something else than play... more"Well, i'm gonna give you a clue. iOS users doesn't have a choice, they are forced to use Safari in iOS without flash no matter what.
So they have to live with it. So only because of that, it doesn't means that all of those 60% as you claim do like to surf the web on an iOS device."
Again more failed logic. iOS users don't get flash.... duh! But don't you think that if they hated surfing without flash that they'd convert to an Android tablet or phone? Or don't you think they'd surf much less since they hate their surfing experience? And since surfing on an Android device is suppose to be better according to you - don't you think that the numbers would be reversed?
Now there is a clue for YOU!
- AnonD-10525
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011I know the A5 chip supports 1080p output. But showing 1080p output is something else than play... more"Ehh, that thing that iOS stands for 60% of the mobile web browsing stats is ooooooold like my grandfather.
Today it's more even in that stat."
Ahhh no that data was posted TODAY in and article on touchreviews.com Today is July 4th, right?
- AnonD-10525
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011I know the A5 chip supports 1080p output. But showing 1080p output is something else than play... moreThat is the DUMBEST thing I ever heard! The entertainment industry is NOT moving closer to people using their mobile phones to go from TV to TV to plug in and watch movies. And I already told you why it doesn't make much sense to use a phone as a Media streaming device. Or did you miss that part? So everyone is watching a movie in a room together. Your Galaxy rings... You take your phone to answer the call and everyone complains. Nice going genius! The entertainment industry is moving closer to these media boxes than phones.
I can't believe you actually made that suggestion. That is just dumb.
- Tom-Helge
- Srd
AnonD-10525, 05 Jul 2011That is a long and winded reply and I'll look at it later. But since you seem to be so well v... moreI know the A5 chip supports 1080p output. But showing 1080p output is something else than playing heavy 1080p movies that needs ALOT of power to be able to run without lag.
A good phone like Galaxy S II can steam 1080p movies via DLNA to a TV that supports it. Can an iPhone do this?. And you can show movies via HDMI to.
The Galaxy S II can do exactly the same things as the Rokus, Boxees, and app ready TVs can do.
Galaxy S II is a fully multimedia machine that works in pretty much the same way as a computer, just in a mini format.
So why do you have to use an Apple TV (that doesn't even officially supports 1080p lol) or Boxee or anything else when you can do the same things from your Galaxy S II?
If you just want to see movies that you have downloaded, then all you really need is the Galaxy S II or any other smartphones that can play 1080p movies with out any lags at all.
Ehh, that thing that iOS stands for 60% of the mobile web browsing stats is ooooooold like my grandfather.
Today it's more even in that stat.
Well, i'm gonna give you a clue. iOS users doesn't have a choice, they are forced to use Safari in iOS without flash no matter what.
So they have to live with it. So only because of that, it doesn't means that all of those 60% as you claim do like to surf the web on an iOS device.
- AnonD-10525
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011And tell me how much bitrate those 720p movies you can record from your iPod Touch have?
Tr... moreRead what Duel just posted. You DO NOT GET IT! Fandroids ARE the worst! The iPhone 3GS IS a great phone - end of story. Nothing you say can change that.
Just keep in mind why this article was written. Does that upset you that the iPhone and iOS are so strong, even though there are only a handful of devices running it? And I'll repeat again - 60% of mobile web browsing.... that is HUGE dude! So 27% of smartphone users of iPhones are using the web twice as much as the hundred phones that make up the 38% for Android devices.
Upset by that? That isn't our fault. Its just fact. See - to the average smartphone user iOS and iPhone's offer something that Android just can't. Offering a million phones running 20 different versions of Android isn't doing anything for Google other than gaining market share. Apple is ROLLING in money from its iOS venture.
Jealous? And I don't believe you that you use a Macbook or your spelling would be better.
- AnonD-10525
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011And tell me how much bitrate those 720p movies you can record from your iPod Touch have?
Tr... moreI went through your post and its all of the same crap you've been dishing out. But you still don't get the difference between "junk" and "outdated". The iPhone 3GS is simply "outdated". Its still a great smooth running phone that does exactly what it was designed to do. Nothing less. You have this "specs" fetish and its funny!!! By your logic - the Galaxy S is junk too... since its 2010 technology and has been surpassed. Right? I have an old iMac G5. Its outdated in terms of what it can do... but its still a great machine and runs great when I use it. It is certainly not junk. When you can finally understand or comprehend the difference between "junk" and "outdated" then you may understand why iOS users eat up 60% of mobil web browsing.
You have no reasons to bash iPhones... do you know why? Name me ONE other cell phone maker that has only been making phones for 4 years that changed the face of smartphones. Can't name one can you? Apple's venture into the phone market is VERY YOUNG! They came to play.
And aside from all of this... you can say the iPhone is junk. But since iOS users (once again) eat up 60% of the mobile browsing then they must be liking their devices more than Android users. That says a lot. and I bet that upsets you.
- AnonD-1825
- p77
Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011And tell me how much bitrate those 720p movies you can record from your iPod Touch have?
Tr... more"The overall performance is the key factor on how well the phone works in the daily usage. And like i say, here the iPhone 3GS sucks big time."
You still dont get it?, i'm using my iPhone 3gs daily bases a alot and never felt it to be slow. Everything what i do with my iPhone works nicely and fast and smooth. there isn't any long loading times when starting apps. if you can open some apps little bit faster it's not that big deal. If it has big difference and actually need to wait apps to start i would understand you. But it's not case with iPhone.
For me it's always been like this (if you start to think how long this app takes to load), then it's take too long, but i never felt that with iPhone. Only where i felt that is big heavy games. there i see big difference when iPhone 3gs loads some game with 20 second and iPhone 4 make this same with 6 seconds, that's huge difference. But when we are talking about apps loading, time difference is relatively small.
Only thing what i have start to wanted is better resolution screen for web browsing, so i'm going to buy iPhone 5, i jumped over iPhone 4 because like i said, iPhone 3gs is still very good phone to use.
I'm sure if you have used galaxy s2 you feel iPhone 3gs is too slow. But it's ONLY YOU! But still there's 3 million galaxy s2 sold. There's still many who hasn't bought it and even tryed it, and migh not even try one because iPhone is enough for them, even the 3gs model. You speak like everyone has those dual core phones and everyone cares about those. People still buying iPhone 3gs like crazy.
- AnonD-10525
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Tom-Helge, 05 Jul 2011And tell me how much bitrate those 720p movies you can record from your iPod Touch have?
Tr... moreThat is a long and winded reply and I'll look at it later. But since you seem to be so well versed on what is suppose to be in iOS 5 and the iPhone 5 how come you didn't hear the anything running the A5 chip will have the ability in iOS 5 to output 1080p?
What I find amusing is that you seem to think people are actually streaming1080p movies from their phones to their tvs. Sorry but people are using their Rokus, Boxees, and app ready TVs and Blu Rays. I personally use the Apple TV, Roku XDS, and Vizio BluRay with Vudu to stream movies. Plugging the phone in can be cumbersome and well... impractical if you happen to get a call or a text message while your movie is playing. No. People are not using their phones to connect to their TV to watch movies. That is not the direction the movie/TV industry is moving in. Try a Roku or Apple TV running Netflix or Boxee running Vudu to watch movies. Or stream your content from your computer. It just makes more sense and I'm not sure at all where you got that from.
Did you know that iPad and iPhone users comprise of about 60% of mobile web browsing? While Android users only comprise about 31%? Guess that means it doesn't really matter how big the iPhone's screen is or how the browser loads... people really love using them and they do a great job of web browsing... and they do it all without flash.
Now I'll go and read your long winded reply.
- Tom-Helge
- Srd
Anonymous, 05 Jul 2011I never said you needed connection speed to play movies stored on the phone. I said from yout... moreAnd tell me how much bitrate those 720p movies you can record from your iPod Touch have?
Try playing a 720p mp4 movie with 18 Mbps in bitrate and tell me if you can run that at all.
Yes, it's important for smartphones today to be able to run 1080p MKV movies 100% smooth because peoples use the smartphones to watch movies from the phones to the TV via HDMI.
And when iPad 2 doesn't even can play 1080p movies right from the iPad 2 device, then what makes you think the iPhone 5 can do it?
Ofc, you can stream your 1080p MKV movies from your computer to your iPad 2, but the quality doesn't get as good at the raw MKV footage is since it have to be converted on the go over to the iPad 2 so it can run the 1080p movie.
So instead of going that way then, then why not just plug your PC to your TV instead then?
No, none of you manipulated Apple fanbois'es doesn't see at all on what i'm talking about.
You don't even see that the browser in the Galaxy S II crushes both the iPhone 4 and iPad 2 with a HUGE margin.
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCf0-MQswCo
I don't have to say anything more about that. And listen to what that guy is telling. Yes, he's telling that iPhone 5 is going to use the same hardware as iPad 2 have like i say to, so that's why he decided to test against the iPad 2.
And yes, iPad 2 got raped HARD in that browser test. And that shows why the browser in iOS 5 is bad, because a browser today on a smartphone with dual core CPU's should handle pretty much everything on the web, including flash contents.
Ok, if you never have tried Google Earth, then you should try it to see that even that is lagging sometimes on the iPhone 4.
Google is not a company that will stitch pillows under our arms. Google is letting anyone use Android Market and doesn't control applications as long as it doesn't steals your information.
When programs that steals info from you gets reported to Google, then Google first of all will nuke it from Android Market right away, and secondly, they will nuke it from ANY phones that have installed that program on an Android phone from your phone.
Android is like Windows. What you install is up to you and not up to Microsoft or Google. If you install spywares and that kind of crap, it's you own dumb fault for doing it.
Ok, if iPhone 4 isn't fair to be used as comparsion to Galaxy S II, then we have to use the iPad 2.
But like all of the tests shows, then iPad 2 gets crushed by the Galaxy S II in performance and speed.
And again, like most says, iPhone 5 is most likely to use the same hardware as iPad 2 have, then like i also said earlier, then iPhone 5 have already lost the performance war already before it's launched.
Please note that i'm not saying by any means that iPhone 5 is going to be bad, i'm just saying that it wont have a chance against the Galaxy S II.
As i said earlier, i have used all of the iPhones that Apple have. I even own an iPod Touch that i used for one and a half year.
I even own the new 11.6 ich MacBook Air laptop from Apple. So if you think i just hate Apple just because i think it's funny, i'm afraid to tell you that you are wrong.
I love good products, and here the MacBook Air i have is very good. And that's why i bought it in the first place.
Have iPhone 4 been any good, i would buy that to, simple as that.
Yes, like i said over, if the iPhone 5 use the same hardware as the iPad 2 like most of the inside reports from Apple is saying it will, then yes, iPhone 5 have already lost to Galaxy S II in performance even before it's released.
I don't care about what the other Apple halleluja fanbois'es are telling over when the link i gave tells the truth.
They can say whatever of their Apple propaganda as much as they want, but i listen to the facts.
I'm saying iPhone 3GS is a junk phone because IT IS a junk phone TODAY.
We are not talking about how good and wonderfull it was in 2009, because 2009 was 2 years ago. Today is 2011.
Because you know, a phone is not automaticly good only because the navigation between the menues on iPhone 3GS are smooth.
The overall performance is the key factor on how well the phone works in the daily usage. And like i say, here the iPhone 3GS sucks big time.
I'm attacking iPhones today because it lacks basic stuffs that was already a standard back in 2006-2007 on smartphones then.
Apple didn't even manage to put MMS on the first iPhone when i have had MMS since i had this phone: http://www.gsmarena.com/ericsson_t68-253.php
And this phone was released in 2001. YES 2 0 0 1. That's 10 years ago lol.
So i have reasons to bash iPhones.
So only because the iPhones have 'omg the menues are so smooth and silk that it's almost like sex omgosh' experience that you have, it doesn't mean it's a good phone. Because calling a phone for good that miss 50% of what a dirt cheap Android phones have today isn't something i would do.
Come back when the iPhones have the functions and possibilities like most smartphones have today in 2011.
So as far as i see, it's pure Apple hallelujah propaganda.
- AnonD-5422
- L6W
I've experienced Android and IOS.
Android is NEVER better. Android can never reach iPhone even with TONS of phones that are extremely cheap. But IOS with only one expensive phone is the KING.
Now continue hating and swearing iOS ! But we don't care!
- AnonD-10525
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Tom-Helge, 04 Jul 2011Ehh, so you say you need connection speed when you have the movies stored on your phone?
Tr... moreI'm seriously astonished by your lack of ability to see beyond that ONE phone. Its not the best phone ever and does not do everything the best, plain and simple.
And as people have said in here numerous times before... Fandroids are the worst. All they do is turn people OFF from Android rather than to it. Do you really think that your rants and lies about competing phones is really helping? LOTS of people use the iPhone and can see through what you are saying and know the truth about them. They are not junk, never were. You have an inability to put things into perspective.
I have an old Sony Ericsson K790 from like 2006. Its old yes. But still a great phone. Why? To you its a junk phone because its slow, not touch screen, doesn't record 1080 hd, doesn't have dual cores, doesn't have a 12 inch display, etc etc etc. But what makes it a great phone is that its smooth running, has GREAT call quality, gets great reception, is easy to use, and takes great photos for a 3.2mp camera. By today's standards this phone is not junk... but "outdated". You need to learn the difference between the two. The K790 is outdated but still a good, reliable phone. I also had the SE Elm not long ago. Another great phone. Why? Everything SE put into the phone worked well.
A junk phone is one that has a lot of problems (htc sensation) or is built poorly (many plastic android phones). A good phone has great build quality and does what it was designed to do without fail.
Lets see your Galaxy S2 in a showdown against my Nokia N8 in photo quality and in HD lossless zoom (I've never seen another phone have that). Why am I only challenging you in that area? Because that is what the primary use of this phone is. Just because its not a 52" screen and running 7 cores doesn't mean its junk. It does what it was designed to do VERY WELL. Same with the Vivaz. It does what it was designed to do very well. Doesn't make the phone junk.
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Tom-Helge, 04 Jul 2011Ehh, so you say you need connection speed when you have the movies stored on your phone?
Tr... moreI never said you needed connection speed to play movies stored on the phone. I said from youtube. Why? Because the idea that the iPhone can't play 720p videos without lagging is just arrogant on your part. I have the iPod touch, which is "similar" hardware and I have NEVER had the videos lag. And yes - the iPod touch 4th gen records in 720p.
Actually none of us see what you are talking about when it comes to the iOS browser. I never had a problem with it, and it appears nobody else does here either. Its just the way it loads... thats not lag.
I never use Google Earth.
So because you used a laggy X10 this makes you an authority? But because of our own experiences with many platforms you fail to recognize any of our knowledge as valid? Fanboy!
I know what it is to go from a good phone to a LAGGY ONE! I went from the Vivaz to a FASTER Galaxy and found LAG!
And people just accept insecurity as "the way it is" when it comes to a desktop or mobile OS. But why? Apple has done a great job at avoiding the same AVOIDABLE problems that Android suffers from. Sorry but that is a fail. Big time. Google could have controlled the app market better but chose not to so they wouldn't offend the very SMALL user base that is hell bent on being able to tinker with their phones... while most of us just want them to work well and use them.
And you are still incorrect by comparing the Galaxy S2 to last years iPhone 4. You justify it because there is no new iPhone. That's fine, but you never account for that when you bash the iPhone. You act as if Apple failed somehow or as if they just came out with it. The Galaxy S2 SHOULD beat the iPhone 4 on a few fronts because of how much newer it is and the difference in specs. This is not news. And was certainly not the basis for this article.
You have not used all the iPhones or you would realize that they are fine products. And if by some chance you did - you used them with a closed mind and were looking for faults. When I got my Galaxy I was looking for something great... and found a mess!!! I was using an open mind unlike you.
And Samsung hasn't crushed the iPhone 5 at all. Because it is NOT out yet and you have no idea what the hardware will be. Apple surprises people every time. Why should this one be any different? You act like there is nothing Apple can do to compete with the high and mighty Galaxy S2. Sorry but I'd still rather have the 3GS over that pile of overhyped plastic. Why? Because I know its still supported. A year from now the Galaxy S2 will be forgotten and unsupported. And THAT is a total failure on SAMSUNG's part.
18 months???? Is that all? Did you know that up to iOS 4 the old 3G iPhone was still supported? Thats a hell of a lot longer than 18 months. BIG FAIL.
And I don't recall you giving ME a link about fragmentation... you've been challenged and defeated by so many users in here that you probably gave it to someone else. And nobody is here screaming like a girl. I'm just pointing out how fragmented Android is (just like the rest of the tech community also says) yet you fail to listen or understand it.
And what is your basis for saying the 3GS is a junk phone? That is pure Fandroid talk with no substance to support what you are saying at all. The 3GS has no lag... my Galaxy S - lots of lag. End game - iPhone 3GS wins.
And this isn't Apple hallelujah propaganda if you are the ONLY one here that decided to go on the attack of the iPhone and we were all talking very calming while you proceeded to insult us. Proof positive once again that Fandroids are the worst! You don't give up even in the face of pure logic. And I'm a Nokia user btw. So don't go there.
Go ahead.. respond. I want to see what you come up with. It will probably be the same brick wall as before. You just have no idea what makes a phone a good phone. To you it has to have the best hardware specs and the OS has to have soooo many features in it. While you forget that what its REALLY about is making a phone run smoothly, support for the OS for longer than a pathetic 18 months, secure, stable, useful, and fun. All that I see Android doing is updating the OS so fast that its leaving many decent phones in the dust leaving the manufacturer to wonder if they should really support their one year old devices or just make new ones. Its crazy!
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