Will be interesting to see how the Snapdragon 845 fares against the Apple A11 chip.
.. Both will be crazy powerful.
Denis Thomas, 07 Dec 2017You again?
Ok listen, we got it. You like features being taken from you. Good for you. It's ... moreNobody will follow me, except the entire smartphone world? Features aren't taken away. Space is being better utilized. You still have all the features via the USB-C port.
Oh, and the IBM Simon isn't anywhere comparable to the iPhone, which started the whole full-touchscreen smartphone revolution.
FinnishInquisition, 06 Dec 2017The Motorola Atrix had a swipe fingerprint sensor. Apple was indeed the first to go with a sim... moreApple was the first on what? Oh god.. The first smartphone with a touchscreen goes back in the 90s man. https://www.google.gr/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/worlds-first-smartphone-simon-launched-before-iphone-2015-6
FinnishInquisition, 06 Dec 2017No worries buddy. :)
I think you misunderstood what I wrote though.
When I wrote you cou... moreYou again?
Ok listen, we got it. You like features being taken from you. Good for you. It's as simple as that.
Nobody will follow you in this. Can't you see it?
did the same 1diot that wrote the other s845 article write this one?
Terms like same or inferor 10nm process when tmsc's is different and if its samsungs it will lpp.
So either way its not the same as the samsung 10nm lpe process used in the S835.
Why is it that even tech sites dont have a clue what they are talking about anymore???
let see if the new SD845 in terms of raw power will even match Apple A11 chip in single and multi score.
why don't they use cortex a35 as well? a75+a55+a35 = 12 core SoC?
Ravuh, 06 Dec 2017Of course they are. Ever since the 5s. But their software (iOS, not MAC) could really use some... moreI agree with you. Apple has the speed and security while lagging the features and some usability. Google's software is the exact opposite of Apple's.
However, you can't add some features without breaking some of your securities and vice versa. It's a delicate situation for both of them, I might add. Maybe we could see them playing catching-up game until the foreseeable future. :)
Anonymous, 06 Dec 20173.5mm audio jack will be permanently removed from flagship phone as we are going into wireless... moreI will never buy wireless headphones cuz i am not an id.iot to spend more bucks on lower quality audio
I like the fact Qualcomm brings faster connection, power saving and other stuff.
I do not think more performance is needed.
Even series 4xx can do almost everything.
I have RR3 and UFC on tablet, SD400.
Vegetaholic, 06 Dec 2017Sorry for grammar, you mentioned you can put better DAC and amplifier for space belonged to 3.... moreNo worries buddy. :)
I think you misunderstood what I wrote though.
When I wrote you could use the space from removing the 3.5 mm port for other components, I'm talking about smartphone components in general, such as battery, cameras, thermal pipes, etc. It'd be completely wasteful to put a DAC and amplifier in a smartphone that uses a digital audio output.
The DAC and amplifier is moved over to the headphones with USB audio. It's no longer in the smartphone. And the manufacturers can hand-pick and tune the DAC/amp for their headphones, which should lead to better audio output.
You also don't need to charge USB-C headphones.
John Lofwire, 06 Dec 2017You are right the dac in the wireless headset use same power as the one in the phone. but t... moreI pointed out he could switch to USB-C solutions though. It doesn't have to be Bluetooth.
Anonymous, 06 Dec 2017I don't agree with the 3.5mm removal being anything to do with advancing technology. One of th... moreHTC and Huawei aren't using USB-C with an extra pin..? They use the standard USB-C.
As for the removal of the 3.5 mm port advancing technology; it frees up space and design choices in the smartphones, while promoting improved audio solutions in USB-C and Bluetooth headphones.
The analogue AUX port is still the gold-standard for professional or stationary audio solutions, don't get me wrong. But for portable solutions this is an advancement.
The DAC quality in USB-C headphones, Bluetooth headphones and dongles aren't low-quality. They're actually out-performing many built-in smartphone DAC's. The iPhone dongle, for example, out-powers the Note 8's amplifier and the DAC is performing just as well in terms of quality, noise and crosstalk.
Bluetooth, WiFi and cellular signals use largely the same radio frequencies. It's not a health hazard, as established by countless studies.
Bluetooth can deliver 24-bit/48 kHz audio via aptX HD and 24-bit/96 kHz via LDAC. That's beyond human hearing ranges, which I'd say is well enough in terms of quality.
And there I'm waiting for a good phone with the S660 to be released. Seems like the S9 will arrive before it.
Totalbiscuit, 06 Dec 20171. Fingerprint Sensor in a phone - Apple had not been the first, Moto Atrix was the first well... moreThe Motorola Atrix had a swipe fingerprint sensor. Apple was indeed the first to go with a simpler and nicer touch sensor, which has today become the standard.
And yes, HTC, OPPO, Motorola and LeEco all had devices without the 3.5 mm port before Apple. But Apple was the first to remove it from their entire lineup.
As for your mention of the S8, S8+ and Essential Phone, I can only assume you confused the "full-front touch screens" with "bezelless display". Apple was the first to do what we today consider a smartphone, where all interaction is made through the full-front touchscreen.
Apple is playing catch-up mainly in software. In hardware it's usually spearheading the market. And the faster processors isn't what I'm calling visionary. I called the switch to x64 very early on a visionary move. They knew the change was coming, and jumped on it ahead of the curve, and now their SoC's are 2 years ahead. It's only a shame they don't sell it to other OEM's.
FinnishInquisition, 06 Dec 2017Slicker designs sell better, and are also nicer to have and handle. I'm not sure I understa... moreSorry for grammar, you mentioned you can put better DAC and amplifier for space belonged to 3.5mm. It's not true. You see wired headphones had it inside better quality because of bigger space comparing to tiny smarthpone bodies. So if you even put bigger DAC regarding 3.5mm space it will not be better than just having it on wired headphone, plus you need to charge your wireless headphones, inconvienent
I see allot of talent and words... But no coherent brain to back it up. The discussion is endless
Anonymous, 06 Dec 2017Same ol' same Qualcomm. Can hardly beat 2 year old A9 in single core... But what do you expec... moreThey don't need to. Even with that "low" single core score, the whole experience isn't disturbed and still pleasing. Countering your argument, what Apple SoC can do with such a high score? Do you render long 4K video everyday? Do your games run faster (we're talking about in game performance, not loading time)? Developers are likely to limit FPS anyway and your iPhone screen refresh rate is also only 60Hz. With such a great power you're still limited to do things that weaker phones can do more, not to mention it also drains battery faster, there's nothing to be proud of there...