Prometheous, 06 Dec 2017How can qualcomm become like Intel. They are already playing catchup against Apple a series ch... moreNaaahh, Apple keeps their SoCs to themselves and don‘t sell them overpriced to manufacturers so they are definitely not Intel. Performance-wise, it is true that Apple is like Intel and the rest is like pre-ryzen AMD, but nothing else. And soon enough, they will also use their own SoCs in their Macs and even the Mac Pro.
SherlockHolmes, 06 Dec 2017ASUS and HP will do a convertible/laptop with SD845?! Meh, nobody wants this brands...because ... moreIf you don‘t want a crappy PC with a crappy software, there is only one option and that is a Mac
Why a53 and not a55?, 06 Dec 2017If it uses a75, it could also use a55. So why everyone assumes that it uses a53 and not a55?Pretty much this. Why would they use 2 clusters with A75+A53 (Dynamiq + big.LITTLE), when they can put them all in the same cluster with A75+A55 (Dynamiq) and share L3 cache? Pretty incomprehensible.
xXENDER FREAKXx, 06 Dec 2017Right now the performance gap depends on the type of cores and manufacturing process. They kee... moreYes. Their Kyro cores were a big deal and still are, but like with Intel cores, we are getting to a point where we will only get marginal performance boost. If you look at the mobile CPU history, it's exactly the PC CPU history but in Fast Forward.
Kiyasuriin, 06 Dec 2017Nope. And the answer is simple. The Kryo 3xx are based on A75 which is on a BIG par (Up to 38%... moreHey, thanks for the tips, mate. Glad to know that it will be using the A75.
How about the Little cluster part?? A53 or A55??
I am now wondering whether SD840 would be more appropriate for it, not SD845.
ProJames, 06 Dec 2017Yup. Like Intel chips on PCs. The performance boost from Haswell to Coffee Lake is too low for... moreRight now the performance gap depends on the type of cores and manufacturing process. They keep renewing and renewing every year like next year smartphones with A75 compared to this year's A73, and from 10nm to 8 or 7nm next year, but still I would say that their SNAPDRAGON chipsets have the biggest performance gap is during the announcement of SNAPDRAGON 820
Yuri84, 06 Dec 2017I'll move away from 3.5mm jack when in-ear monitors can handle 8-12 hours of continuous playba... moreYou could just get USB-C headphones then.
And no, the DAC/amp doesn't drain any more power when it's in the headphones instead of in the phone. It does the exact same job, and uses as much power as before, measured in milliwatts.
As for the size, look at the Apple Earpods. Or the dongles. This is how big the DAC/amp combo is: https://i.imgur.com/uTKoUtW.jpg
Be Nice To Others, 06 Dec 2017We are about to reach our limit. Year by year improvements are no longer as huge as they were ... moreYup. Like Intel chips on PCs. The performance boost from Haswell to Coffee Lake is too low for 3 gen difference. A lot of gamers are happy with a Broadwell-E CPU and a Pascal GPU. Coffee Lake is the living proof of your statement;
How they increase perfs? Overclocking and adding cores. Cores that are disabled or at a very low TDP most of the time. They are at a limit here.
Surprising, after this year's fiasco with Qualcomm's inability to produce chips for companies other that Samsung in 2017h1.
And after there were claims that Qualcomm would produce at TSMC. Maybe this would happen only next year, for 855?
Anonymous, 06 Dec 20173.5mm audio jack will be permanently removed from flagship phone as we are going into wireless... moreI'll move away from 3.5mm jack when in-ear monitors can handle 8-12 hours of continuous playback without protruding much from the ear. Headphones I can sleep with that have 4+ drivers and decent sound quality. And don't cost $1000. Currently there aren't any, as far as I know. Because you have to put a DAC inside headphones, which drains battery dramatically, and on top of it you need a headphone amp (for most headphones with decent sound quality), which also drains power. Basically, you'll need to carry a phone in each of your ears to be able to throw away 3.5mm jack. Or a phone-sized device. Just look at those fancy DAC/AMPs - they're typically bigger than phones.
Why would you want to use DAC/AMP in the first place? Music quality is incomparable between wireless headphones + typical iPhone and 3.5mm jack + dac/amp + decent music quality + decent headphones (typically $300+).
Pity it's not 7nm by TSMC like some rumors claimed.
But would it be manufactured by TSMC or Samsung?
I sure hope it could capture at least 4K@60, if not @120 like samsung's Exynos supposedly can (only in theory and not at a current device).
If it uses a75, it could also use a55.
So why everyone assumes that it uses a53 and not a55?
Muhammad Fadhli, 06 Dec 2017Should i buy The OnePlus 5T with Qualcommn SD 835, Guy's or wait for Xiaomi Mi 7 in 2018 ?? Depends on what device you currently possess. If you are into one plus and have, say, a one plus one, you may go with OP5T but if you have say a OP3T or newer device, you can wait. BTW I would suggest avoiding one plus and xiaomi and go for a reliable device such an S8 or an S8+ if you can afford those over the OP5T.
AnonD-434295, 06 Dec 2017I hate it when qualcomm gradually become like intel. they really need competition like intel v... moreHow can qualcomm become like Intel. They are already playing catchup against Apple a series chips by atleast a couple of generations. I would say apple is like Intel and qc is like pre-ryzen AMD.