Anonymous, 07 Dec 2017Yeah, exactly. Well, if I was to buy a new phone right now - I'd have to forget about OP5T jus... moreExactly these updates are damn slow to be left without treble and Huawei is seriously getting great with updates
Thats a pretty bad excuse.
Just make an update you can do from a computer that include project treble for the ppl who want it that would eliminate the bricking issues.
LG superfan, 07 Dec 2017Its too risky but how was it implemented in pixel l, ph1 and mate9 without issuesYeah, exactly. Well, if I was to buy a new phone right now - I'd have to forget about OP5T just because of this. I want faster updates as Treble makes it possible, so I won't bother to buy a phone that won't get the support. Even Huawei does it for my Mate 9, so god damn - do not leave your brand new flagship without the support.
Anonymous, 07 Dec 2017But who would want to reset their phone to "fabric" settings? Even if its factory settings you... moreI think it's a good sacrifice for a future proof device don't you think? Nowadays there exists X numer of backup apps and ways to recover everything you had in no time
Fulljack, 07 Dec 2017they don't necessarily need to wipe /data partition. LG did the same back in LG 2X and Samsung... moreexactly. for a OTA update, the user has to have free space. By using free clusters, technically it's possible. I didn't think about that..
abigfanoftechs, 07 Dec 2017Why were the Pixel 1 & Essential phones able to do it? ;)They did have that partition already with android N, so no need to do repartitioning...
MarcioR, 07 Dec 2017if project treble seriously requires a separate partition, an OTA does not brick a phone, sinc... morethey don't necessarily need to wipe /data partition. LG did the same back in LG 2X and Samsung back in Note 1 day. What they really need to do is re-partition the /system correctly, by using the free clusters. Well, it's just basically need a clever engineering to work
MarcioR, 07 Dec 2017if project treble seriously requires a separate partition, an OTA does not brick a phone, sinc... moreBut who would want to reset their phone to "fabric" settings? Even if its factory settings you're talking about, who would want to do that?
Mzma PIB, 07 Dec 2017People talking about "Project Treble" and your are talking about OS version update.I am talking about treble phones I mentioned have it and they were updated OTA
Fulljack, 07 Dec 2017correction. that partition was for A/B system partition for seamless update, not for /vendor p... moreCorrect! Thanks for highlighting this. Even this site has a surprising number of poorly informed people
if project treble seriously requires a separate partition, an OTA does not brick a phone, since all the Android Data is moved first on the partition. But it might lead to corrupt Data.
Oneplus should just push out an update on where it resets a phone to fabric settings.
Oneplus is greedy, they simply want to launch phones, sell them and give them as low support as they see fit.
Project Treble is a big thing now, so that we can still have the latest android version on our beloved handsets making it compare to the Apple's side.
Oneplus might see that as an inconvenience, they want people to continue buy their products and force us to forget our 6month old ones.
Greedy oneplus, watch out for xiaomi in 2018. You said you learned from the oneplus 2 mistakes and not listen to the community but here you are again, not supporting what we ask. Look what needs to fix on the oneplus 5T
1. No project treble support
2. No Red colour option for "Accent Colours"
3. No security updates, we're still on octobers.´
4. No camera updates
5. Optimizing automatic ambient light display
6. Navigation bar colour not fitting the background decently.
7. No Bluetooth compatibility fix for in car usage
etc.. i could go on and on
Anonymous, 07 Dec 2017Then cover it up like Uber :DIt was uncovered twice in last few months.
Oh thanks for the clarification, OnePlus, now I just discarted your phones of my list. Wellcome to home Huawei and Honor. The new P11 is rumored to come with three cameras and one with 5X Zoom. I would like to know how they are going to integrate them to make it looks beautiful.
Mzma PIB, 07 Dec 2017People talking about "Project Treble" and your are talking about OS version update.Project treble is getting implemented in Essential as well as Honor 9. Its upto the OEMS.
Lucian, 07 Dec 2017When you are the sole creator of the software your device is running you can easily plan, desi... moreOP released 5 and 5t when all technical information about Project Treble were available. They just don't have skilled coders to implement this technology. Or, maybe, trying to hide security holes and backdoors. Project Treble can patch these holes. This Chinese company will lost illegal access to it's phones.
LG superfan, 07 Dec 2017Its too risky but how was it implemented in pixel l, ph1 and mate9 without issuesPeople talking about "Project Treble" and your are talking about OS version update.
lollipop1, 07 Dec 2017On the other hand, Apple convert everyone partition (iphone, ipad and macbook) to AFPS without... moreWhen you are the sole creator of the software your device is running you can easily plan, design and convert partitions any time you wish. That is Apple's case. When you rely on a 3rd party, in this case Google, for ~90% of the software your device is running, it gets a little harder to plan and design your changes on the platform. This is OnePlus' and everyone else's case.
DoubleAgent, 07 Dec 2017OnePlus device is an open device which means you can root it all you want. People who owns One... moreit's not that simple. you'll need to repartition your /system and /data so that you have a specific /vendor partition. then, you'll need to make sure the system calls the driver correctly. lastly, if your kernel was pre-4.4, you'll need to upstream your kernel and basically create a new kernel tree by yourself.