These kinds of things are meant more for corporate/bulk sales than individual.
AdamBoy64, 13 Dec 2017Couldn't find what Xeon processors they were utilising. Kinda odd that it's not mentioned. Fr... moreOkay, and I've also just read over at macrumors.com that they might be underclocked Xeon-W series chips to be able to fit in and work with the smaller form factor. In which case, who knows what they are..
Kiyasuriin, 12 Dec 2017assembled the required specs theoretically.
said PC would've scored 4520 points ... moreWould you please give me a source of where you got that geekbench score? Apple didn't specify anywhere what cpus they use and as far as I know that score is a bit over the top
About ram... for 400$, the ram I found is 3200MHz, so that's faster than what apple will use on iMac Pro. But the thing is that ram doesn't make much difference in in I/O.
PCs support 10Gbps network, I don't know where did you learn that bs fact. There are plenty of 10gbps pcie network cards for as low as 100$.
About the integrated gpu... how do you even know if iMac Pro has it? Again, they didn't specify the cpus they will be using. Even if there was an integrated gpu, it wouldn't do anything useful when it comes to computing. Integrated and external gpus don't stack.
So... from your writings I can see that you are desperately trying to defend apple without even having full knowledge of what you're writing. I'd recommend you to stop...
Couldn't find what Xeon processors they were utilising. Kinda odd that it's not mentioned.
From what I've read on Engadget,
The Xeon W-2195 would be the 18-core chip, Xeon W-2155 would be the 10-core chip..
.. not sure what the 8-core chip would be.
Some pretty powerful devices nonetheless. I was kinda surprised they use AMD graphics, but that's good for AMD.
Love the Community, 12 Dec 2017That's for the Consumer. What about for professionals?
1. AMD Epyc for the same but cheaper... moreHis condition was under 2000$. but considering price was not limited...
Yes. considering it is the Epyc 7601 CPU. yes. the core count does outlast the base version of iMac Pro. but not the max version.
the vega 64 eats dust when it comes to Titan V
128 GB of ram... equal preformance.
and last factor is 5K monitor. so dependign on what you choose.
JOMAR ALPUERTO (PHI), 12 Dec 2017can i play dota 2 on this??? im boosting..Indeed. and in "Canyourunit.com" you're WAAAY ahead of the max requirements of said game.
even BDO is a joke for this monster.
Anonymous, 12 Dec 2017Alright... You can get a 1TB ssd for around 300$, ryzen 7 1800x for 300$, ram for 400$, gtx 10... moreassembled the required specs theoretically.
said PC would've scored 4520 points in single core and 21840 points in multicore.
the iMac pro 2017 scores 5980 points single and a whopping 38590 points.
Victor: iMac pro 2017
the Nvidia GTX 1080 TI sure scores better than the radeon vega 64 of the highest tier. and obviously a double of the 56.
Victor: built PC.
the RAM you've mentioned. (Searched 4 sticks of 8 GB 2400 MHz DDR4x)is slower. thus having lower read/write speed, lower bandwidth. and responsiveness.
Assuming both run Windows. (As I've never seen a normal PC running macOS yet)
General I/O is better with the iMac. as command sequence is faster and can be stored more.)
Internet, the iMac Pro can achieve TEN Gbps ethernet speed. while the generic PC can achieve only 1 Gbps. nope.
base GPU to bolster the graphics card.
the intel xeon used in the iMac uses the base of Iris 630 stacked with the radeon pro vega 56/64 Ryzen does NOT have an internal GPU.
sum of scores: 2:1 to iMac
all database is taken from facts. testing the hardware. previous experiences with said cards. and so on.
who cares?! overpriced has hell...by this price you buy almost 2 or 3 gaming laptops (ASUS or MSI)!!!
Anonymous, 12 Dec 2017I could not find a single 8k monitor available today. Even the one for Â€ 20 000 was just 4KHere's one at a bargain 3,700 bucks.
They're just coming out now, as their usefulness outside professional video editing and rendering is rather limited... :)
(By professional I obviously mean the genuine professionals not the faux-Pro Apple gadget buyers)
Kiyasuriin, 12 Dec 2017oh really... please enlist the required CPU, GPU, Board, Ram pieces, (ATLEAST 32 GB) 1 TB SSD... moreAlright... You can get a 1TB ssd for around 300$, ryzen 7 1800x for 300$, ram for 400$, gtx 1080 for 500$, a deent mobo for 150$, power supply for 100$ and the left 250$ can be spent on a case and a display. Here you go, a pc with better performance for less than 2000$.
Anonymous, 12 Dec 2017You can build a pc better than that for less than 2000$...That's for the Consumer. What about for professionals?
1. AMD Epyc for the same but cheaper price:performance ratio than Xeon?
2. Titan xP or Titan V
3. Same amount of RAM
4. 4K and above monitor
Anonymous, 12 Dec 2017I could not find a single 8k monitor available today. Even the one for Â€ 20 000 was just 4KDell has an 8K monitor for USD 3700.
Anonymous, 12 Dec 2017You can build a pc better than that for less than 2000$...oh really...
please enlist the required CPU, GPU, Board, Ram pieces, (ATLEAST 32 GB) 1 TB SSD and power supply unit in under 2000$
and it has to defeat iMac in 3 different benchmarks:
Geekbench, GFXbench and a third one dedicated to overall preformance.
if you cannot answer that please do not claim anything you can't prove!
AnonD-24741, 12 Dec 2017You can get 8k monitors on PC. A bare-bone workstation might look cool, but it's useless. This... moreI could not find a single 8k monitor available today. Even the one for Â€ 20 000 was just 4K
Love the Community, 12 Dec 2017I hope the Apple version of that Radeon software lets us undervolt the GPU for more efficiency... moreYou can get 8k monitors on PC. A bare-bone workstation might look cool, but it's useless. This thing is bound to go on its knees, throttling from heat issues in a normal summer's day.
Fandroids will shout that they can build a fully fledged gaming PC with 2 AMD 18 core CPUs, 4 GTX 1080 TI SLI, Buy a Bose Soundsystem, renovate their room in the basement, buy 3 Mercedes, 2 65" LG 4K OLED TVs as monitors and still have money left to invite their non-existent girlfriend to a 5 course menu.