Luxor, 28 Dec 2017Its nice and all they releasing this. But the 660 not even widely available yet. The market fl... moreThese will come out 2019... it takes about a year From relese to see these in real product. Ofcourse there Are some that can come earlier, but Expect to see these in more volume in 2019.
Kiyasuriin, 28 Dec 2017You're... Kidding right? Cache is one of THE most important parts inside the CPU. (aside of t... moreYou won't feel any difference between 1 MB of L2 cache & 3 MB of it as it will translate only in modest 5~6% gain & significant cost. However when you multiple the 2x more L2 cache and exclusive access per core to it (not as before shared between two core's) that is 2x2 which is 10% more performance & mantra ARM applied with new cortex A series (A75, A55). From architectural standpoint their is much more than can be done regarding memory subsystems on ARM architecture.
Praise the lord, SD 630 successor finally gets A7 line cores. SD 460 is still bs Tho.
Kiyasuriin, 28 Dec 2017It's true that the Android is heavier OS than iOS. but have you compared the A series's Die si... moreWell Apple core's are 2x bigger because they are 2x wider institutions per clock design which also makes them almost 2x faster. QC still have a wider & more advanced cores but not in the smartphone SoC's but server one's. On the other hand Apple design is based on older A73's & without DinamiQ so the performance core's on S845 should be only 25% slower (as A75 is same as A73 but 3 instructions per clock vs 2) & DinamiQ should utilise them better.
KamAbdi, 28 Dec 2017I disagree with you because iOS is a light OS that's why A11 Bionic Chip has so much power. Bu... morethat power is useless with a proper RAM management.
it's like you have a car with a very powerful engine but your drive it with the parking break.
What's the point if we're all gonna end up with the 625 in 90% of mid-range phones again? Not even the 630 is widely adopted now, not to mention 660.
Unbiased Sony Fanboy, 28 Dec 2017Some Android manufacturer should buy Apple's A11 Bionic SoC and put it on their flagship to ma... moreit's not about power. it's about the software optimization.
you can see phones with 6 GB ram and it can barely beat an Iphone 6 as speed. why? because it has a poor ram management and almost zero app optimization.
so, not the processor power is the issue. :)
KamAbdi, 28 Dec 2017I agree with you with what you said but looking at kinda of power, a OS like iOS doesn't need ... moreCan't really consider iOS light anymore, it's lighter than Android for sure but it comes with quite a bit of crap as well.
Luxor, 28 Dec 2017Kryos is the one we usually see on flagship chipset. To be specific, kryo is the name of there "custom" cores, although they're modded version of the original (cortex) A75 and A55
Its nice and all they releasing this. But the 660 not even widely available yet. The market flooded with 425/435 & 625 devices. Sure, battery efficient but not performing well at all. We all can agree not everyone liking the way qualcomm is progressing thing. It is about time our midranger become as powerful as flagships from 2 to 3 years ago.
Anonymous, 28 Dec 2017Odd that the 450, 630 and 660 are barely out and barely featured in phones and their successor... morethey aren't announced...they're leaked... do you next expect there to be something after the current gen?
Kiyasuriin, 28 Dec 2017It's true that the Android is heavier OS than iOS. but have you compared the A series's Die si... moreI agree with you with what you said but looking at kinda of power, a OS like iOS doesn't need it because it a light OS and at the same time that processor lags when it comes to speed tests because if he is that much powerful, then iphone should outperform any android device.
What's the difference between kryo and cortex cores? The 450 has 8 cortex A53 all clocked at 1.8 ghz. The new 460 has 8 kryos - 4 at 1.4 and 4 at 1.8. On the face of it isn't the 450 more powerful because of the clock speed?
Odd that the 450, 630 and 660 are barely out and barely featured in phones and their successors are announced. I expected the 450, 630 and 660 to be used a whole lot more than they are - we barely know what these have to offer.
Anonymous, 28 Dec 2017What difference will make the system cacheYou're... Kidding right?
Cache is one of THE most important parts inside the CPU. (aside of the registers ofcourse)
it allows you to store commands for the registers to execute. the larger the cache. the more data and commands it can store. so while gaming with a 3MB cache phone compared to 1MB (assuming all other specs are the same.) you'll notice that the phone reacts faster due to the fact the CPU takes less time to take data from the RAM compared to the 1MB cache phone.
this is why it's important to have a high Cache SoC. (and the reason crapple went all out with a whopping 8MB cache for it's A11!)
Unbiased Sony Fanboy, 28 Dec 2017Some Android manufacturer should buy Apple's A11 Bionic SoC and put it on their flagship to ma... moreIt is harder to run android than iOS.
And still few phones can open apps faster than iX.
I believe 460 must be on pair with 630.
640 same level of 653.
670 almost like 820
KamAbdi, 28 Dec 2017I disagree with you because iOS is a light OS that's why A11 Bionic Chip has so much power. Bu... moreIt's true that the Android is heavier OS than iOS. but have you compared the A series's Die size!? I am a proud android lover. and I myself envy the A11's monsoon core's size. they are TWO times larger than the Kryo 280 that competed against them. (just to clarify something. the weaker cores according to geekbench of A11 are the same level as the powerful Kryo280)
look at the OS level. I absulutely agree with you. but from a developer's point of view. and prowess of the heart of these machine. I'd gladly prefer to have An A11 within an android.