FinnishInquisition, 23 Jan 2018The fewer ingress points you need to secure, the safer the waterproofing can be. Especially ov... moreMeh, I generally tend to not throw my phone in the pool. If there's still one company using the 3.5 mm Jack they get my business. As long as the sacrifices aren't too great.
FinnishInquisition, 28 Jan 2018You mention one phone that was poorly design on all levels. Why don't we talk about devices li... moreSorry man you mentioned apple and design. That company can't even design in expandible memory ports. They've been useless to me for quite some time.
Removing the headphone jack is just simply denial of our happiness of using the phone. They don't have to remove it because they want to make the phone slim or water proof.
If removing the headphone jack helps a brand make their phones waterproof, they need to up their game, Sony's been doing it since the Z1, and they all have the 3.5mm audio jack to this day.
Thesis86, 28 Jan 2018Phone companies aren't using space effectively without the headphone jack. There have been man... moreYou mention one phone that was poorly design on all levels. Why don't we talk about devices like the iPhone 7, iPhone X, Essential Phone, Razer Phone and HTC U11? They're very optimised in terms of space.
And you CAN pick up USB-C headphones produced by third-party audio manufacturers such as B&W, Libratones, etc, and have them work with any USB-C audio device. If you instead buy headphones from a smartphone manufacturer you best check before you buy. Xiaomi tend to make passive USB-C headphones for their phones while HTC have gone pants-on-head retarded with their proprietary USB-C headphones for their U-series phones.
FinnishInquisition, 23 Jan 2018USB-C isn't a locked ecosystem. It's an open standard. And the issue isn't whether it's pos... morePhone companies aren't using space effectively without the headphone jack. There have been many teardowns showing how poorly that extra space has been used (HTC U Ultra for instance). And your USB-C headphone solution would be great...if I could pick up any USB-C headphone and it would work with any phone. Currently, this is not the case. So your only solution is a Bluetooth receiver or wireless buds (the buds do suck and are way too expensive). Your overall argument is just weak.
I wouldn't require a headphone jack if my phone had two USB Type-C or USB 3.* ports.
Anonymous, 21 Jan 2018Removing the wire and voliá you have even more freedomNooooo I love my headset freedom lol
Hate using Bluetooth
2portsplease, 23 Jan 2018I'm not saying any conspiracy theories or claims. This is all scientific proven research which... moreI'm fairly certain two blogs and a conspiracy site doesn't qualify as scientific evidence.
Here you go: http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/88/12/09-071852/en/
In short: No links can be found between radio frequency exposure and negative health effects. It doesn't matter how much you want to blindly believe it. Evidence is against you.
2portsplease , 23 Jan 2018Thank you Prometheus for backing me up, bless you.I am backing the truth and what you said is the TRUTH. Cheers.
s4f786, 24 Jan 2018Well that's the person's fault then, no one tells them to listen to music on max, in fact most... moreMan thinks whatthewer you want. I am 36 years old and i speak to the point i know whats going on seen it many times in my life or news spoke about.
As you said its a person fault but these persons never understands they live their own way far fro reality.
CptPower, 22 Jan 2018Yes but they always set to max and walk on streets and stop care anything else. When you hit... moreWell that's the person's fault then, no one tells them to listen to music on max, in fact most devices give a warning when putting high volume, if some one ignores that that's not the devices fault. Dude seriously I don't know if you're trolling or just being stupid in purpose but regardless you make no sense at all.
chisslegrog, 24 Jan 2018That's kind of line saying old cars were problem because they aren't as good as new cars or ol... moreYes, ports in general are a problem with regard to their size, dust and water ingress as well as breaking from wear and tear. But removing them is usually an even bigger problem, as their function is very much needed. Now USB-C can fill the role of both ports, so it's one step in the right direction.
And Apple didn't jump the gun. Their iPhone 7 is outselling all other iPhones. The Androids without the 3.5 mm port are outselling their predecessors. Most people don't care. The only people caring about the 3.5 mm removal tend to come online and whine about it on forums, unable to handle change.
FinnishInquisition, 23 Jan 2018Yes, it was a problem before we had USB-C, as USB-C was a prerequisite for being able to do ev... moreThat's kind of line saying old cars were problem because they aren't as good as new cars or old motors were a problem. They were not a problem, anything can be improved on and USB C will be replaced eventually so your logic is that USB C is just another problem. In the end 3.5mm jacks have their place and uses, times will move on but Apple did it at a point where the industry clearly didn't want to move on (hence why others kept including the 3.5mm jack for a long time). Apple jumping the gun annoyed a lot of people and they had to adapt (when in a closed eco system it's adapt or move, no choice) but later confused people with their own choices of when they included it in other devices too.
In the end Apple saw the tide changing, others saw it too but it's just whether Apple did it at the right time or not and clearly it doesn't seem like they did if people are still here having this debate even now.
Why should it be removed? Wireless and wired headphones serve very different markets at the moment. Wireless for those who like the "convenience" of going wire free. Wired for those who demand high quality and uninterruptable audio.
Until the day wireless is _that_ stable (try using those wireless earphones in a crowded space with 2.4GHz signals everywhere), the market for wired earphones will continue to exist.
Ben Turbin, 23 Jan 2018Rubbish, you mean to say we have come through all these decades and next minute 3.5mm jack is ... moreYes, it was a problem before we had USB-C, as USB-C was a prerequisite for being able to do everything via a single port. So yes, it was a problem in 1993, 2003, and 2013.
Heck, the 3.5 mm port didn't even become standard in phones and portable devices until 2009. And even then there was no standard on whether to use the AHJ or OMTP type. So yes, it was a problem to use the 3.5 mm port in all years prior to 2009. And in 2013 we still didn't have USB-C. Only now has USB-C started becoming the de-facto standard in all devices, meaning we can finally move on to a true universal port.
You seem to think the 3.5 mm port in phones is some sort of unchangeable technology, when in fact it's rather recent and not necessarily the best option.
Oh, and by the way, Apple didn't start this change. They just popularized it. Just like how they popularized the phasing out of the floppy disk drives. They think ahead of people like you. They have piles of market research that backs up their decisions.
FinnishInquisition, 23 Jan 2018The fan that had to drill into the backplate, remove a component, move the battery and taptic ... moreRubbish, you mean to say we have come through all these decades and next minute 3.5mm jack is a problem because apple say so.
Was it a problem in 1983? was it a problem in 1993? was it a problem in 2003? was it a problem in 2013? NO IT WAS NOT .It just so happen to become a major problem in September 2017 when apple decided.
Alien , 23 Jan 2018You do realize that if it's true and radio waves cause cancer and other tumors, NOBODY will ba... moreApple is going towards fully wireless that is their aim and only in another 20-30 years will we see this outcome for cancer rates caused by this extreme wireless thing apple obsessed with.