Sunday debate: Is removing the headphone jack the way forward? Comments
- Anonymous
- vIg
The headphone jack is IMMATERIAL! The important bit i to have two ports - one for charging and one for audio output. The second port can be digital only, if that is what is considered important for progress.
- Tann Hauser
- akv
1ns0mniac, 21 Jan 2018This is just another form of smart phone evolution. In the future, if iPhone replaces lighting... moreNo.
Adding an extra second headphone dedicated USB C is the future and evolution.
Cramping charging/otg/headphone functionality on just one USB port is...no evolution at all, just one big fat negative compromise.
Wireless charging would be welcome with only one USB option, but only if wireless charger included, not extra cost optional.
And bt headphones are no evolution also, as sound quality is seriously compromised as to wired ones ( except most expensive aptX HD or Ldac ones), need extra charging...it must be there as an option, not a direct and only approach.
Comprimising like this is not evolution. Evolution includes ease of use factor also.
Ease of use and comprimising are direct opossite.
- Anonymous
- tZ4
Remove the headphone jack is ridiculous! It is not user friendly and annoying when you only can use the proper iphone headphone.
- AnonD-1825
- p7H
Anonymous, 21 Jan 2018 little bezel? Since when did how much bezel is visible have anything to do with fitting in 3.... more"Separately, GoogleÂ’s VP of product management Mario Queiroz told TechCrunch that the decision was made in order to make an all-screen device. “The primary reason [for dropping the jack] is establishing a mechanical design path for the future,” Queiroz said. “We want the display to go closer and closer to the edge. Our team said, ‘if weÂÂ’re going to make the shift, letÂÂ’s make it sooner, rather than later.ÂÂ’ Last year may have been too early. Now there are more phones on the market.”
- Kyo
- PEr
Except iPhone no other phone without a 3.5mm Jack has been successful.Need I say anymore.
- Anonymous
- m5N
Yes there are alternatives to the headphone jack socket but thats what they should stay as "alternatives" not replacement. Besides this is also used as an aerial socket for built in radios which i do find very useful and at almost no battery loss.
- AnonD-373654
- te3
Removing something perfect is not going forward !!!!!! It is like you are hit by a BUS and you are in hospital; not able to move forward until someone gives you some knowledge therapy !
FORM FACTOR? how ridiculous.. Apple ipods have headphone jack but they are so slim, way slimmer than the phones which omits the jack in the name of form factor. Componentss are getting smaller and smaller, so space is just a lame excuse. A headphone jack is better than that gimmicky dual camera and gimmicky wireless charging. The biggest problem is wired headphones comes with no battery, unlike wireless solutions. How many things will we have to charge more? laptops, mobile or even two mobiles, maybe a tablet, a smart-watch.. now even a headphone?
- pskosinski
- arQ
It's one more example of switching from a simple and cheap solution of excellent quality to a complex and expensive solution of mediocre quality. The brands do that solely for money, not to improve anything.
- Anonymous
- I8m
AnonD-1825, 21 Jan 2018I found the bad compromise "The camera setup on the Mi Mix is a little different than it is on... more little bezel? Since when did how much bezel is visible have anything to do with fitting in 3.5mm jack??
Gosh you are gullible
- LG superfan
- sSx
Alot of comments saying headjack is must removal for bezel less design well its not you just need to thicken the phone abit thats all
- Deviant
- dVS
Some say that removing the 3.5mm jack will improve sound quality, well I dont have the same experinence now that Inhave a iphone x. The sound from from apple earbuds is worse than before to me. Normally I am using Audio Technica M50 and Focal Sphear earphones. I bought bose QC35 II to give bluetooth a chance. Well they are not in par with M50s. So removing the jack did not improve quality also bluetooth earphones are not better. When you look on pics of iphonex you will see that there is space for a 3.5mm jack. So there is no real necessity to remove this universal jack. Except that some companies want to earn more money by making you buy more brand specific products. So F U apple.
- Knight355
- u7V
I agree and admit it if removing headphones is way forward, honestly as Android users listen to music, videos etc seeming noisy and afraid of deaf, i would rather hope it without headset and hope other innovation.
- Anonymous
- I8m
AnonD-1825, 21 Jan 2018I didn't say anything about thinness? If you can find a design like iPhone X with Headphone... moreA rectangle?
- LG superfan
- sSx
Why jack should stay
1)not every phone has wireless charging
2)bluetooth drains battery faster
3)bluetooth earphones can be interupted (lost connection, accidentaly turned off bluetooth etc)
4)you have to carry more stuff (phone, earphones with usb c and a dongle)
5)currently no better alternate available
6)you have to charge your bluetooth earphones as well
- Akinaro
- dPP
""Removing the 3.5mm jack gives phone manufactures greater flexibility with their form factors and internal placement of components while making it easier for them to make their devices waterproof and robust and more importantly with the right headphones improved audio quality.""
Never heard more stuqid thing this year...
1. Removing something that lots users still use and its compatible with other media device is NOT "flexibility", its downgrade.
Having annoying USB dongle with you is not "flexibility".
2. MiniJack and its side components on any device bigger than 5inches is not a problem to place, it have nothing to to with "internal placement of components".
Even Thickness of 5mm is not a problem for it.
3. Making device waterproof with audio jack is not a problem, like MANY devices for past year showed us.
4. Last sentence is just king of the hill in terms of lack of not knowing anything about topic, but overall lack of intelligence, because "with the right headphones" you can get better sound even if you connect them to phone using 3 stripped cables and stuck them inside the phone. I can ebt my house and my car that "with the right headphones" connected to 3.5mm jack you will get better sound than though any pseudo-digital USB connected headphones.
All that advertising mambo-jambo bait that you took when they say "phone have digital super-mega-ultra sound dac" need to be converted to analog signal, go though your usb cable, dongle, and then put inside headphone driver.
So no, removing it is not good, because people still use it, technology that "replaced" it is placebo and that whole thing was made just to milk users from money when they buy dongles and new headphones JUST for their phones.
- Tann Hauser
- akv
-. -, 21 Jan 2018The problem is not about the removing of headphone jack, but it's about removing a port and gi... moreAbsolutely agree.
I understand that USBC is more convenient port than 3.5 mm one, as it takes less space. But removing the headphone extra port, and share the function with just one dedicated charger/usb OTG port is nonsens.
There should be at LEAST that one extra dedicated USB C port for usb headphones, alongside the charging/otg dedicated one.
Just one for three functions on a phone is serious downgrade of user accessability.
Extra Dongles with two interfaces for charge and headphones for that single one... are also clumsy useless nonsens.
If new Xperia flag is indeed going that lousy way too, goodbye...
... aint buying phones with single USB C and no headphone dedicated port lousy trend following.
- Anonymous
- tVn
AnonD-1825, 21 Jan 2018IPhone X design wouldn't have been possible without losing headphone jack. If you want to keep... moreAlright. Alright we get it. Anything to defend the Apple brand.
- Fulljack
- tDT
We live in a standarized era, and that's good. We can share the same headphones and the same charger. But right now, we still have 3 kind of charger, microUSB, Type-C, and Apple's proprietary design. Until the day come where all company only use Type-C as their solution, I'm sticking with 3.5mm jack, thanks
- Iskander
- iE7
AnonD-1825, 21 Jan 2018I found the bad compromise "The camera setup on the Mi Mix is a little different than it is on... moreThe compromise of the camera at the bottom has nothing to do with space for a 3.5mm jack at the top. Do you have any clue to how tiny a front facing camera module actually is? The reason for it to be at the bottom is not to cut into the display or to have a bezel at the top. It's a design choice, as much as cutting the display in the iPhone X was. The point stands, you can have a 3.5mm jack with a bezel-less top (or bottom, if you would want to place it there).
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