AnonD-1825, 21 Jan 2018I found the bad compromise "The camera setup on the Mi Mix is a little different than it is on... moreThe compromise of the camera at the bottom has nothing to do with space for a 3.5mm jack at the top. Do you have any clue to how tiny a front facing camera module actually is? The reason for it to be at the bottom is not to cut into the display or to have a bezel at the top. It's a design choice, as much as cutting the display in the iPhone X was. The point stands, you can have a 3.5mm jack with a bezel-less top (or bottom, if you would want to place it there).
Iskander, 21 Jan 2018That's total BS. did you check the design of the Mi Mix 1? Did you check where it's 3.5mm jack... moreI found the bad compromise "The camera setup on the Mi Mix is a little different than it is on most phones, given that we've lost the top bezel of the phone. Instead the selfie camera is located at the bottom right corner of the phone,"
that's why they got the free space for Headphone jack at the top.
AnonD-1825, 21 Jan 2018Which means they had to do compromises at top of the phone because mi mix 2 didn't had it anym... moreJut because Xiaomi decided to follow other companies by removing it from the Mi Mix 2, does not mean it couldn't be placed on it. They just didn't. If anything, the Mi Mix 2 had more space on the top for it than the Mi Mix 1 had.
Point is, you do not need a big bezel to place a 3.5mm jack and Xiaomi (and Sharp as well) have proven that with previous designs. Your assertion that the iPhone X could not have it because of it's bezels therefor is incorrect.
Anonymous, 21 Jan 2018Nope. Thinner phones with bigger batteries still have it. You have no pointI didn't say anything about thinness?
If you can find a design like iPhone X with Headphone jack then you are right. So far there isn't and Samsung would have done it If it's possible.
blame apple for everything
This is just another form of smart phone evolution. In the future, if iPhone replaces lighting with USB-C, then all smart phone headphones will be universal! USB-C will be next 3.5mm jack. As Razer CEO mentioned in the interview that they were able squeeze larger battery by omitting 3.5mm jack, I'll take more battery over a 3.5mm jack. Love it or hate it, this is the future, so get used it.
Sony Xperia Fan, 21 Jan 2018"Without headphone jack, phones will be more waterproof"
Samsung Galaxy Note 8: IP68, has h... moreThe reason is removing that bottom bezel,
If that would be possible Samsung would have done it already, they are known for having small bezels, but now they just can't go further because they are keeping the headphone jack.
Google said this too that this was reason why they did it with pixel 2 so their upcoming phone will have less bezels.
AnonD-1825, 21 Jan 2018Which means they had to do compromises at top of the phone because mi mix 2 didn't had it anym... moreNope. Thinner phones with bigger batteries still have it. You have no point
We need a other wired access head set .
Will suffer Bluetooth radiation ..
Iskander, 21 Jan 2018That's total BS. did you check the design of the Mi Mix 1? Did you check where it's 3.5mm jack... moreWhich means they had to do compromises at top of the phone because mi mix 2 didn't had it anymore.
Just proves my point.
I have 6 working Bluetooth earphone devices, Anker Soundbuds Slim and the Gear IconX 2018 being the latest ones. I enjoy the wireless freedom as I can move around with no wires to accidentally yank out. However, I do use the headphone jack in some situations like when I'm running out of batteries on my BT earphone of the day, or the ability to connect to a sound system while my phone is charging at the same time.
The only main reason why Apple removed it is to push people to buy AirPods - "courage", my @$$! It was nothing more than a business move to sell millions of them. Competition is a good thing - it pushed Samsung to come out with longer functioning IconX earphones with built-in music storage and audio coaching for exercise. Probably this will even push Apple to finally come out with AirPods with built-in music storage.
It wasn't really necessary to remove it, but when they did, I switched to BT earphones and haven't looked back one bit. Using a wired cable now feels ridiculous. Yeah the sound quality is a bit less but this is more than fine for 99% of the people. The soundphiles who want the best sound quality possible should stick to a brand that's faithful to the 3.5mm jack, and the rest should just move on.
AnonD-1825, 21 Jan 2018IPhone X design wouldn't have been possible without losing headphone jack. If you want to keep... moreThat's total BS. did you check the design of the Mi Mix 1? Did you check where it's 3.5mm jack is placed? Going by your claim, you likely didn't. I'll give you a hint. It's at the bezel-less top of the phone.
3.5mm jack should stay. Those who want to use USB C headphones or Lightning EarPods can use on their respective ports, but the option for those who still wants the dedicated 3.5mm headphone jack should still have the option.
The more choices there are, the better. Besides, lack of headphone jack brings little to no improvements to the phone. Huawei Mate 10 has headphone jack and a beefy 4000mAh battery but it ain't too heavy or thick either.
Anonymous, 21 Jan 2018The fact that this guy actually believes limiting and taking awsy things is moving forward lmf... moreI definitely agree with you. I am pro 3.5mm jack like you.
but I do wonder. One device (of vivo If I am not mistaken.) is 4.85mm thick. how would you place a 3.5mm jack?
The problem is not about the removing of headphone jack, but it's about removing a port and give nothing back, the situation will be much better if they give one more usb-c
"Without headphone jack, phones will be more waterproof"
Samsung Galaxy Note 8: IP68, has headphone jack
LG V30: IP68, has headphone jack
Sony Xperia XZ Premium: IP68, has headphone jack
Apple iPhone X: IP67, no headphone jack
Apple fans could think of a better excuse. Oh, and btw, those three phones have incredible headphone jack output.
it should stay.
I agree that wireless headphones, USB-C/Lightning and all other options are great options. they should stay. but not at the cost of 3.5mm removal
IPhone X design wouldn't have been possible without losing headphone jack. If you want to keep headphone jack your phone will always have bottom bezel, which also means you will have to have top bezel so the size of bezel is same top and down.