FinnishInquisition, 22 Jan 2018Laptops and tablets don't have the same space constraints as smartphones.Enough nonsense already!
It was proven that space is not a problem and 3.5mm jack can be added to the current iphones even by fans. If they can do it, then Apple can certainly do it too.
s4f786, 22 Jan 2018So by your stupid logic all portable music should not be allowed, Bluetooth headphones can be ... moreMan my logic is good. I never liked it anyway other holes will atract my interests :-)
And anyway no matter what i say these companies want to remove jack and its their decision you will do nothing with that,
What you gonna expect a boycott? Or letter to the courts and the highest tribunal in Haag in Brusel i mean Belgium?
I dont think so.
We all have to cope with the same facts. Jack will be history and we all have to ascend over it.
Actually I hate the dongle on a phone that's make it more like an octopus and I hate the lightning connector's pin it is tiny and lack of durability.
CptPower, 21 Jan 2018Man yes people have eyes but they are bind anyway and yet they have an eyes and still so many ... moreSo by your stupid logic all portable music should not be allowed, Bluetooth headphones can be just as loud as earphones, it's up to the user to set the volume, whether that's wired or wireless.
Anonymous, 22 Jan 2018He is right, you know. That of his is not a theory, it's actually fact. Cellular radio waves a... morePlease post any proof of radio waves having any harmful effect at all on the human body (extreme doses notwithstanding, like sitting in a microwave oven).
I'll give you a hint: there's none. There's no conclusive proof of radio waves causing any damage at all. The only interaction radio waves has in humans is non-ionizing and of the thermal kind.
Though i use a bluetooth adapter for 5 years now I still use my 6 year old headphones with it that has 3 meter cables. Weird eh? Well, I don't want the phone to be pulled out by dragging on the cable accidently also the phones have a 4cm long extended jack on it that makes the phone stick weirdly in my pocket when plugged in directly. I can tell you: It's handy not having a wire on your phone all the time also being able to talk hands free. But then again: bluetooth suc*s big time. The sound is "soso" even if the phones still are "THE thing" in monitoring any sound. The battery life is annoyingly short and most of all: there is too much bluetooth-devices! I get sound hick ups and disconnections every now and then and it doesnt help that people nowadays use crappy BT-Headsets that distort other connections. Oh well. Im into new tech, but removing the headphone jack is utterly annoying.
2portsplease, 22 Jan 2018You must be strong as Superman then since you are not even a pinch concerned about radiation a... morePlease post scientific sources to any or all of your conspiracy claims. The burden of proof is on you as you make a positive assertion of something.
Lightning McQueen, 22 Jan 20182.5 jack has terrible audio output. That's why 3.5 is the only solution back them in the 90s. ... more"terrible audio output"...
It's literally the same electrical connections...
You trying to judge the sending device's quality on it's jack now. People please, that is exactly how they manage to pull trash like removing the jack and claiming it brings better audio quality cause digital.
The average smartphone user still cares about the headphone jack. I've saw razor thin laptops STILL have a space for the jack, so smartphone companies have no excuse. Companies just do not like choice. Samsung and LG both have produced flagships with water/dust resistance with the jack. So that isn't an excuse. It is about ecosystems. The companies are trash in that regard.
Anonymous, 22 Jan 2018He is right, you know. That of his is not a theory, it's actually fact. Cellular radio waves a... moreI'll tell the (not so) short story about SAR:
Since there is absolutely no conclusive proof that electromagnetic waves on the bands used by cell phones do absolutely any harm, just as a precaution in case it's ever found more conclusive evidence of harm, these levels (SAR levels) are set as a level that is so low, that it has no energy to do any significant harm, even if it was harmful indeed. They're basically in levels so low that gamma radiation would be close to harmless. By the way, yes you're surrounded day by day with cell phone radio waves, WLAN signals, TV signals, FM/AM radio signals, and the MUCH more harmful - solar radiation. Also, you get gamma radiation at random through many years of dispersion on the atmosphere. Heck the radiation from Fukushima and even Chernobyl are still lingering all around the globe, you get part of that daily.
WLAN and Bluetooth work on the radio frequency close to what a household microwave oven does. Is it harmful because of this? Short answer: no.
Long answer: On the power levels Bluetooth and WLAN use, and on the super low focusing of the wave, you get no significant electromagnetic wave absorption, hence why you don't get heat spots other than what is touching the hot surfaces of a phone. It just can't radiate enough to heat anything. For some information: a phone's battery is nowadays at least 5W/h. That is divided between all stuff inside the phone. All radios combined don't output even 1W, but even if it did, let's say you get 5h of that 1W microwaves. Now, a household microwave heats food right? At.... about 800W output. We're already using the phone's output radiation as something utterly ridiculously high (it's on the few milliwatts class on any phone instead of 1W). It would have produced in 5h the same effect of 22 seconds on a normal microwave. "But that does heat a lot!" yeah, when it's concentrated all inside the oven, and you don't have 5h to cool down stuff.
Long story short: no radio signal in phones or other household equipment other than a microwave oven (INSIDE IT), does any harm. Also, before people go nuts on the microwave thing, no it's not gamma radiation, it only heats water, it doesn't give cancer.
Anonymous, 22 Jan 2018Yep i'm totally convinced Motorola removed it first because of Apple. When Motorola removed it... moreYou could be right,, also how did each company "even though these phones are designed months beforehand" know that they would be building phones with 18:9 ratio bezel less style design. They must have spies in each company or its to do with component manufacturers and what they sell.
So Lg,Samsung apple start 2017 phone design in early 2016 and suddenly changed to this small bezel design after decades of same design seems odd.
FinnishInquisition, 21 Jan 2018Radio frequencies are harmless to us because they largely don't interfere with solid matter, n... moreYou must be strong as Superman then since you are not even a pinch concerned about radiation and are fanatically trying to prove otherwise that it's actually not a big deal.
When it really is. And to the contrary, I did read a hefty amount of libraries about it.
Please tell me why do sheer number of people report headaches, hallucinations or even pains after having a phone directly next to their head?
Why is it when men have phones next to their testicles for a long period of time that it shows their sperm count is decreased or in the worst case scenario they become infertile?
But even if you'd put plenty of radiation by your head or testicles, it doesn't matter because you're superman so you're strong as steel and nothing can hurt you right?
By the way, to the cancer you can't see, I was referring to the tumours that were just formed and are only seen in your blood or skin tissue, under a microscope.
I wasn't referring to ones that are a few months old or more and you can visibly see them but referring to the ones that are invisible to the human eye and to which there's plenty of cancers ranging from barely detectable to visible so I hope you now understand what I meant by that.
Ben Turbin, 22 Jan 2018No the headphone is doing fine till silly apple chose to remove it. Why in 2011 did Samsung... moreYep i'm totally convinced Motorola removed it first because of Apple. When Motorola removed it, everyone already knew the iPhone won't have it, i assume corporations like Motorola have known it even earlier than us.
No the headphone is doing fine till silly apple chose to remove it.
Why in 2011 did Samsung not remove 3.5mm jack? why in 2012 did Sony not remove 3.5mm jack? why now just because apple decides they follow well I will not comply because they say so,,maybe in future I will not have a phone then if they all remove a superb simple easy 100 yr proven record piece of hard ware.
MrJulli, 22 Jan 2018No doubt that Paul guy is an iPhone fan. :DAnd a westerner...notice how they are first to accept anything corporations and governments are ramming down their/our throats?
Removing 3.5 mm from phone does not mean you can not use existing analog earphone. There is dongle. Yes, dongle is not so convenient indeed.
But during historical technical transition period, we always used such adapter. Some old folk may remember larger 6.3 mm (1/4") audio connector used for headphone and microphone before 3.5 mm (1/8") is used. Using old headphone on new device with 3.5 mm hole required bulky adapter. But as time goes by, 3.5 mm jack and earphone with 3.5 mm become wide spread and most audio devices accepts 3.5 mm now, so we no longer use such adapter.
So as time passes and current transition of earphone connector become mature, we will not need dongle anymore for wired earphone, too.
one of the reasons i went for a oneplus 5T instead of the Xiaomi Mi6. Because oneplus is still one of the few companies launching phones with a headphone jack.